Do You Know Why Most Of Us Lose??

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Do You Know Why Most Of Us Lose??
    I will tell you

    Smart Money=Late Money

    Smart Action=Post Time Action

    Wake Up
  • Ace_of_Spades
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-14-09
    • 13518

    #2
    Shouldn't you be the one to wake up?
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    • michalis
      Restricted User
      • 01-02-10
      • 1439

      #3
      the big question is

      if everyone is losing, how come books go bust?
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      • Mr Windy City
        Restricted User
        • 12-27-09
        • 5018

        #4
        Smart Money does not equal late money JJ.

        Those that figure out the market before the market figures out itself is Smart Money. If you can consistently pick out lines when they first come out and beat the movement in your favor, then you are the smart money. You will increase your winning % greatly by doing this. How many times have you lost a game by a hook or 1 point when you could have won the bet if you put it in before the public moved it. That's being sharp.

        Just what I think anyway, but he what do I know.
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #5
          Mike most books do not go bust as that is a huge misconception

          Massive Billion dollar banks go bust

          Acer I like losing
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          • Mr Windy City
            Restricted User
            • 12-27-09
            • 5018

            #6
            Originally posted by michalis
            the big question is

            if everyone is losing, how come books go bust?
            those that go bust (if you are talking offshore) is because they are not managed properly. Some are bubble gum shops that are not financially sound but take the risk anyway. A good book is one that can take a big hit but continue to operate every day business without any money problems.
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            • pico
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 04-05-07
              • 27321

              #7
              nope.

              we go bust because god hates gamblers
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              • Ace_of_Spades
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-14-09
                • 13518

                #8
                Originally posted by jjgold
                Mike most books do not go bust as that is a huge misconception

                Massive Billion dollar banks go bust

                Acer I like losing
                Yikes. Hey, is that Jamie Soward in your avatar?
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                • Doc JS
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-15-06
                  • 6885

                  #9
                  And if ANYBODY should know about losing...it's Mr. -36,000 and his Monopoly Money spreadsheet...

                  Doc
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                  • Bostongambler
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 02-01-08
                    • 35581

                    #10
                    We know why you lose Goldie
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                    • SamsNCharge99
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-22-08
                      • 41242

                      #11
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                      • poker_dummy101
                        Restricted User
                        • 11-03-08
                        • 6395

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pico
                        nope.

                        we go bust because god hates gamblers

                        that would mean the bookies are like preachers
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                        • Brock Landers
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 06-30-08
                          • 45359

                          #13
                          most people lose because they played with scared money
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                          • poker_dummy101
                            Restricted User
                            • 11-03-08
                            • 6395

                            #14
                            Nothing satisfies me more than losing a fukkin chunk of my bankroll
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                            • seaborneq
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 09-08-06
                              • 22556

                              #15
                              The main reason we lose is that we pick the wrong side. Squares win and Sharps lose. It is all about picking the right side.
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                              • LostBankroll
                                Restricted User
                                • 02-10-10
                                • 4538

                                #16
                                When I go bust I rob and steal for my next 5Dimes deposit.
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                                • G's pks
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 01-01-09
                                  • 22251

                                  #17
                                  JJ... The reason so many keep losing like Bobby, samsincharge, dac, and a cast of thousands is simple...they overbet, and have a pipe dream of not having to work for a living as they piss their parents money away! But the only pipe they are really smoking is loaded with $hit and the books love guys that bet every single day... What do you think the odds are when you see people saying oh I have to win today, or "I am going all in". Sure these guys can pick a few winners (well except dac) and even win once in a while...but their constant overbetting always gets them in the end, and you too...
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                                  • Mr Windy City
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 12-27-09
                                    • 5018

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by seaborneq
                                    The main reason we lose is that we pick the wrong side. Squares win and Sharps lose. It is all about picking the right side.
                                    you mean squares lose and sharps win?
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                                    • stealthyburrito
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 05-12-09
                                      • 21562

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                      most people lose because they played with scared money
                                      i agree with this, betting in a losing state of mind creates more losses.
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                                      • seaborneq
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 09-08-06
                                        • 22556

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Mr Windy City

                                        you mean squares lose and sharps win?
                                        Sharp money loses sometimes and square money wins sometimes. It is a shallow term. No side wins all the time no side loses all time. Sharp and square are really interchangable. No big difference. If you win, does it matter what you are called? Pick the right side and they call you rich.
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                                        • bozeman
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-11-09
                                          • 2162

                                          #21
                                          I think the question why we lose is a wrong question
                                          it should be why most bookie's never go bankrupt?

                                          I have two answers
                                          1. They win( and we let them do it) their 10% margin
                                          2. Those people who win on a daily basis continue to win. The majority of 50-50 players never quit after they win, but only after they lose, then they start again and as far as they are in + they continue, but when it gets to - they don't have enough money or patience to continue. Then they quit and start over in a few months and they will play again until they lose big- that happens, but I think most of the people should have been 50-50
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                                          • rm18
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 09-20-05
                                            • 22291

                                            #22
                                            Books can beat their players and still go bust, they have building, employee, and transaction costs.
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                                            • bozeman
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-11-09
                                              • 2162

                                              #23
                                              offshore dudes mainly have a few buildings we are talking bout them
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                                              • rm18
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 09-20-05
                                                • 22291

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by bozeman
                                                offshore dudes mainly have a few buildings we are talking bout them

                                                I know but they also have way less customers, some might have a few hundred active guys and beat them slightly but the business fails
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                                                • THE PROFIT
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 11-27-09
                                                  • 17701

                                                  #25
                                                  people lose because they get greedy. End of story!
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                                                  • joe91091
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 06-18-10
                                                    • 58

                                                    #26
                                                    The only way to bet "smart" is to not play every single game, only play one lock your certain of every now and then and place a huge wager on it. The less you play the less you can lose, but we all know how hard that is haha.
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                                                    • Cuse0323
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 12-09-09
                                                      • 30169

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                                                      people lose because they get greedy. End of story!
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by G's pks
                                                        JJ... The reason so many keep losing like Bobby, samsincharge, dac, and a cast of thousands is simple...they overbet, and have a pipe dream of not having to work for a living as they piss their parents money away! But the only pipe they are really smoking is loaded with $hit and the books love guys that bet every single day... What do you think the odds are when you see people saying oh I have to win today, or "I am going all in". Sure these guys can pick a few winners (well except dac) and even win once in a while...but their constant overbetting always gets them in the end, and you too...
                                                        Post of thread so far.
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                                                        • Scorpion
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 09-04-05
                                                          • 7797

                                                          #29
                                                          what is Post Time Action?
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                                                          • Sunde91
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 11-26-09
                                                            • 8325

                                                            #30
                                                            Why do people lose?

                                                            1) They can't pick winners
                                                            2) Poor Money Management, no self-control
                                                            3) Juice
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                                                            • Naz18
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-10-09
                                                              • 4277

                                                              #31
                                                              People lose because of the spread
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                                                              • seaborneq
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 09-08-06
                                                                • 22556

                                                                #32
                                                                SBR's special lines?
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388179

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Bet late only whether in horses or sports

                                                                  Late money is smart money
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                                                                  • OverUnder
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-31-09
                                                                    • 3126

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                    Bet late only whether in horses or sports

                                                                    Late money is smart money
                                                                    It does not matter what time you make your bet, A pick is a pick and has nothing to do with the outcome of the game.
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