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  • Goat Milk
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    • 03-24-10
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    #36
    Originally posted by minet123

    have you been to a college basketball game
    Originally posted by Ralphie1412
    I would rather see a Duke/North Carolina game in Camden on a tuesday then the final game of the world cup.
    Originally posted by HoldEmHook!!
    The college world series, March madness, The BCS championship, are better than the world cup.......


    College Basketball watch them pass the ball around for 35 seconds until they get a layup. Go watch the NBA. You can actually learn something from the best players in the world. College players are nothing.
    Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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    • Fishhead
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      • 08-11-05
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      #37
      Originally posted by statnerds
      you can't compare a sport that matches country against country with ones that match cities against cities. you are talking about US sports as if a few million fans of one team can generate passion and devotion that can match that of tens of millions of people.

      Excellent point

      It's just to bad that soccer isn't more popular in the U.S. and that so many people do not like it............it's really a great sport to watch AND bet.
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      • poker_dummy101
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        • 11-03-08
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        #38
        i tuned in to watch ronaldinho play whatever team i forgot...all i saw was him flopping when someone tapped him.

        there is no form of offense most of the time so "acting" is the only way to get an opportunity to score.

        ( i realize there are alot of soccer fans, but thats just my opinion of it... hell i like watching golf so im in the minority there but can certainly understand why someone wouldnt want to)

        soccer is like the olympics.. i can watch it once every 4 years but no more than that. sure at first ill tune in all the time.. then the shit will get old and itll become like watching a MLS or southwest regional swim meet or something
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        • Goat Milk
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          #39
          everyone that is bailing on the world cup now is gonna be missing out big time come next week.
          Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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          • wal66
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            • 10-14-08
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            #40
            Originally posted by Goat Milk


            College Basketball watch them pass the ball around for 35 seconds until they get a layup. Go watch the NBA. You can actually learn something from the best players in the world. College players are nothing.

            While many star college athletes are merely auditioning most know they have no future on a professional level and those are the ones that make college sports a great institution. They play with emotion that is hard to equal at the next level. I love pro sports don't get me wrong but playing for paychecks, advertising endorsements and contracts just isn't the same as playing for pride, loyalty and pure love of the game.
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            • Naz18
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              • 09-10-09
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              #41
              Originally posted by statnerds
              you can't compare a sport that matches country against country with ones that match cities against cities. you are talking about US sports as if a few million fans of one team can generate passion and devotion that can match that of tens of millions of people.
              Since when was soccer just country against country....this is your typical American that knows nothing about soccer...
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              • jonal
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                • 06-01-09
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                #42
                Originally posted by LostBankroll
                World Cup > Super Bowl + NBA Finals + World Series + Stanley Cup
                yea but NFL Playoffs > World Cup

                March Madness > World Cup

                lol@ties.
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                • Club
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                  • 07-18-09
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                  #43
                  Can't compare WC with the BCS championship in my opinion. WC teams earn their way by beating other teams to get to the finals. BCS teams are chosen by some ridiculous computer system and don't have to beat anyone to get to the championship. And they keep this terrible system because it's all about money.
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                  • pavyracer
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                    • 04-12-07
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by Club
                    Can't compare WC with the BCS championship in my opinion. WC teams earn their way by beating other teams to get to the finals. BCS teams are chosen by some ridiculous computer system and don't have to beat anyone to get to the championship. And they keep this terrible system because it's all about money.
                    If the World Cup was run by the same people who run the BCS you will have the same big teams every 4 years. Even the little guy has a chance to qualify for the World Cup. And the FIFA rankings mean nothing when it comes to qualification.
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                    • shari91
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by poker_dummy101
                      i tuned in to watch ronaldinho play whatever team i forgot...all i saw was him flopping when someone tapped him. there is no form of offense most of the time so "acting" is the only way to get an opportunity to score. ( i realize there are alot of soccer fans, but thats just my opinion of it... hell i like watching golf so im in the minority there but can certainly understand why someone wouldnt want to) soccer is like the olympics.. i can watch it once every 4 years but no more than that. sure at first ill tune in all the time.. then the shit will get old and itll become like watching a MLS or southwest regional swim meet or something
                      But then you can say the same about the NBA as far as flopping is concerned. How many players hit the floor when the 'foul' wouldn't even knock me over let alone a massive guy?

                      A sports commentator here was ragging on Americans and saying that they didn't like soccer because the nation is one big ADHD victim. But it can't be that because how many people follow baseball and you can't really say that's a high action sport.

                      Someone asked me to explain it during the last WC and the only thing I could honestly come up with is that maybe it's because the US doesn't really field a strong enough team to have a shot of winning it any time soon. That's the only thing I can think of because for a nation full of sports lovers, with most people having roots that trace back to somewhere else since the US is such a new nation in the whole scheme of things, to constantly bag the most popular sport in the world just doesn't make sense to me.
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                      • SHADYLANKY
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                        • 10-13-09
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by Naz18
                        Since when was soccer just country against country....this is your typical American that knows nothing about soccer...
                        He is talking about the WC only. Which is country vs country.
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                        • poker_dummy101
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by shari91
                          But then you can say the same about the NBA as far as flopping is concerned. How many players hit the floor when the 'foul' wouldn't even knock me over let alone a massive guy?.
                          1 foul in nba could equal at most 3 or 4 points in about 100 total pts. 1 flop in soccer could be the difference of the game.

                          Originally posted by shari91
                          Someone asked me to explain it during the last WC and the only thing I could honestly come up with is that maybe it's because the US doesn't really field a strong enough team to have a shot of winning it any time soon. That's the only thing I can think of because for a nation full of sports lovers, with most people having roots that trace back to somewhere else since the US is such a new nation in the whole scheme of things, to constantly bag the most popular sport in the world just doesn't make sense to me.

                          Your argument is because americans dont win, noone cares.

                          My argument is Noone cares, so americans dont win.

                          If the top athletes went to soccer, i think we would dominate. But let me know when randy moss takes up soccer
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                          • brooks85
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                            • 01-05-09
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                            #48
                            the scale of the event is definitely something to be respected, the sport being played hardly makes US sports look pathetic. In fact, it just enforces how dominate football is over futbol. Our top athletes would crush the world if they played soccer.

                            Wait, no they wouldn't because they don't flop.
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                            • Domestic
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                              • 02-10-09
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                              #49
                              Fishhead, are you being serious. While I love the World Cup and it has been profitable for me so far the crowds have been poor as piss, the refereeing very dissapointing and of course the ****ing horns.

                              Looking forward to England 2018.
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                              • blueghost
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                                • 09-11-09
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                                #50
                                in another month nobody will be talking or caring about a world cup just like the FRENCH
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                                • Goat Milk
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by wal66

                                  While many star college athletes are merely auditioning most know they have no future on a professional level and those are the ones that make college sports a great institution. They play with emotion that is hard to equal at the next level. I love pro sports don't get me wrong but playing for paychecks, advertising endorsements and contracts just isn't the same as playing for pride, loyalty and pure love of the game.
                                  How can you argue that they play with more emotion? Your saying the Celtics and the Lakers weren't playing that game 7 with emotion? Come on the NCAA is a joke man. The players are HORRIBLE.

                                  Guys like Kobe Bryant play for money no doubt, but the money means nothing next to a 5th ring. I've played basketball and watched it for 25 years. I like watching the NBA because I can actually work on my game by studying players like Bryant Jordan Magic Wade etc.

                                  There is nothing that John Wall has in his arsenal right now that I am impressed by. I like watching superstars who have mastered the game, not athletes who are just learning it...
                                  Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                  • THEGREAT30
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                                    • 10-04-08
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                                    #52
                                    I'm warming to soccer, but I would rather watch a regular season NBA game between the Hawk and Celtics than any world cup game. NBA playoffs, MLB playoffs, NCAA tourny, College Football bowl games. I prefer all of those over World Cup but it is exciting especially when you have 2 teams that don't score much
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                                    • zigomanisinsider
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                                      • 07-28-09
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                                      #53
                                      you are right
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                                      • Masu485
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                                        • 08-14-08
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                                        #54
                                        wtf, whoever said they saw ronaldinho must be mistaken because i don't believe he is even in it.

                                        also, compare the world cup to the Hockey world cup, or the baseball world thing they have (dont even know it's name it's so bad. soccer's WC owns all of them, even the Rugby and cricket WC.
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                                        • Deuce
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                                          #55
                                          Doesn't even touch anything I enjoy in the states.
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                                          • VTranX
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                                            • 02-02-10
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                                            #56
                                            What choose NBA finals over Soccer any day of the week.
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                                            • hokim
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                                              • 04-08-08
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                                              #57
                                              The world cup makes WNBA look exciting, I think.
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                                              • SportNut
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                                                #58
                                                Soccer yucky!!!
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                                                • SportNut
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                                                  #59
                                                  Spending hours on watching team USA...all ended with draws...come on! Where's the losers or winner? Isn't that what sports all about? Times are wasted....go team USA !!!!!
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                                                  • Naz18
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by SHADYLANKY
                                                    He is talking about the WC only. Which is country vs country.
                                                    Exactly....fans are just as passionate about their club teams...
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                                                    • Pokerjoe
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                                                      • 04-17-09
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by poker_dummy101
                                                      make the world series and/or super bowl only happen every 4 years and see what happens
                                                      How would that help? They'd still be minor league sports. No mere domestic title like the Super Bowl is going to challenge a real world championship.

                                                      Imagine if, after winning the Super Bowl, we then sent an NFL all-pro team into a competition with 32 other teams from nations that played the sport just as much and as well as we do. Imagine the controversies over even who should coach, who should QB, etc. Imagine how hard you'd root for the US in a real international football competition. You think you root hard for your local pro team? It's nothing compared to how hard you'd root for a football team with USA on its jerseys.

                                                      THEN you'd have the equivalent of the World Cup.
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                                                      • Pokerjoe
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                                                        • 04-17-09
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by brooks85
                                                        the scale of the event is definitely something to be respected, the sport being played hardly makes US sports look pathetic. In fact, it just enforces how dominate football is over futbol. Our top athletes would crush the world if they played soccer.

                                                        Wait, no they wouldn't because they don't flop.
                                                        How could they crush? You sound like the kind of bigot who worships black athletes while hating black people. Well, the vast, vast majority of black athletes on this planet have soccer for a first choice sport. Soccer players are so much better athletes than the typical NFL turd it isn't even close. I'll take the a pro soccer team's average time in the 100 meters over ANY NFL teams average time, and it won't be close. And that's in the 100 meters. Can you imagine the comparison if they ran a mile? Oh, wait, NFL players can't run a whole mile, sorry.

                                                        And if you don't think "our" athletes flop just as much as soccer players, you need serious help.

                                                        You prefer US sports over soccer for the same reason you think McDonald's is good food: it's what you grew up with and you haven't opened your mind since.
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                                                        • LT Profits
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                                                          • 10-27-06
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                                                          #63
                                                          I think that March Madness is the best AMERICAN sporting event, from both a betting and spectator perspective. That said, it is just that, an American national event, and as such cannot compare with the World Cup on a global scale. Then again, I am not sure it is fair to compare the two for that very reason.
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                                                          • jjgold
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                                                            • 07-20-05
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                                                            #64
                                                            Fishhead does have a point.

                                                            American sports are getting trashy all around from the fans to payers involved.
                                                            American Sports are like Karaka said more of an event now
                                                            American athletes are very undeducated to the point of trash compared to Soccer Athletes
                                                            Much more passion with soccer fans
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                                                            • Fishhead
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                                              Fishhead does have a point.

                                                              American sports are getting trashy all around from the fans to payers involved.
                                                              American Sports are like Karaka said more of an event now
                                                              American athletes are very undeducated to the point of trash compared to Soccer Athletes
                                                              Much more passion with soccer fans


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                                                              • Grind House
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                                                                • 01-01-10
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                                                                #66
                                                                I'm starting to like this dumb shit, but it would be better if these pussies would stop acting like they got shot all the time. Wish they had a World Cup for Rugby!!! That shit is tougher than football. Football has become basketball on grass.
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                                                                • blanda
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                                                                  • 12-18-09
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Go USA..they win 2-1!!
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                                                                  • Fishhead
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Grind House
                                                                    I'm starting to like this dumb shit, but it would be better if these pussies would stop acting like they got shot all the time. Wish they had a World Cup for Rugby!!!


                                                                    They do..............




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                                                                    • u21c3f6
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                                                                      • 01-17-09
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                                      I think that March Madness is the best AMERICAN sporting event, from both a betting and spectator perspective. That said, it is just that, an American national event, and as such cannot compare with the World Cup on a global scale. Then again, I am not sure it is fair to compare the two for that very reason.

                                                                      I agree with this and would add that IMO most US sport playoffs and Championships are also great to watch and wager on.

                                                                      This is the first year that I have actually watched soccer games from start to finish. Over all it has been a good experience. However, here are my (novice) complaints:

                                                                      Some games were absolutely controlled and/or ruined by the Refs. There has to be a solution to this as someone posted earlier, it is one thing for someone to get an extra point or two when they shouldn't in other sports, but one goal in soccer can and does make a difference in most games.

                                                                      I also hate the flopping that goes on in the NBA, but I think from the soccer games I have watched so far, soccer is worse. Almost every play there is someone feigning some kind of hit, injury etc. My solution to this is to create a Pink card. Get two pink cards and you are castrated.

                                                                      Joe.
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                                                                      • mrmarket
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Yes, all American sports are terrible because of the commercials. How dare they make money because it cheapens the sport! Ever hear of a PVR? If you don't like them nothing is stopping you from pressing pause and then fast forward! Of course money never effects anything like soccer right? English Premiership ring a bell? oh wait...last i checked it's been the same teams in contention for years while the sub league teams get relegated time after time. Give me a fukking break.

                                                                        I like soccer (I appreciate it now more so with the WC) and have been watching as many games as I can. The flopping is the only problem (along with the bees) and nothing compares in any sport to the degree that it happens in soccer. Stop fukking trying to defend this ridiculous part of the game because it's embarrassing.
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