Can Kobe Bryant surpass Michael Jordan's status?

[oiler]

He's still young and working on championship number 5.The man is all business.Did you see him next to Chris Rock? He had no interest in talking to a celebrity.To me this is a tough comparison but I think the one thing that Bryant has on his side is that he started younger than Jordan.he still has a way to go..

no way in hell.kobe couldnt even tie jordans gym shoes,there will be nobody who can compare with jordan

[hoopster42]

Kobe has already surpassed Jordan.....years ago

sorry...thats just how I feel....again....sorry..

might be the single dumbest thing ive ever read on a sports forum in the last few years of posting and reading.
one can say that kobe is at jordans level, but to say hes surpassed him screams "i dont know shit about basketball"

[Preston09]

Time will tell.

[shady610]

kobes not done and people dont like to think jordan can be surpassed. truth is, jordan played with another top50 player, the best coach ever, the best rebounder of his time and best 6th man.

Those tend to get over looked when praising jordan.

JORDAND ERA WAS OVERRATED. HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE HISTORIC, BUT HIS COMPETITION WAS VASTLY OVERRATED. In my opinion, if jordan played today, him and kobe would be competeting for top spot and with would be competitive.

JORDANS ERA: 3 top guards in his era averages
ISIAH thomas 19pts 3 rb 9 asst
Reggie Miller 18.2 pts 3rbs 3 ast
Mitch Richmond 21 pts 4rb 4 ast
Clyde drexler 20.7 pts 6rb 5ast
( not as GREAT as people say there are. And jordan winning over them isnt a big deal to me)

Kobes Era
lebron 27 pts 7 rb 7ast
wade 25pts 5 rb 5 ast
pierce 22pts 6rb 4 ast
( much more solid competitors in his era and being better than them is an accomplishment )

I wont compare them until kobe retires. But I will do so objectiviely and wont be like 99% of jordan fans who dismiss anything to make him look better. my point about both is they are the best in the league at there time, but Kobe is playing with better players in the league. Especially when you forget about the memory of "golden Years' and just look objectively.

[Irish Jet]

Some of the comments in regards to Kobe's "help" are pretty laughable. Yeah Shaq was great but Scottie Pippen was in his own right one of the greatest NBA players of all time and Jordan never won without him. No one can win a title single handedly. Not Kobe (Although he's proven he can win one without Shaq). Jordan will get the edge and always will but it's not as wide a gap as people make out. Certainly in terms of skill they're the two greatest players ever.

[williams22]

Some of the comments in regards to Kobe's "help" are pretty laughable. Yeah Shaq was great but Scottie Pippen was in his own right one of the greatest NBA players of all time and Jordan never won without him. No one can win a title single handedly. Not Kobe (Although he's proven he can win one without Shaq). Jordan will get the edge and always will but it's not as wide a gap as people make out. Certainly in terms of skill they're the two greatest players ever.

The difference is Kobe only has 1 Finals MVP in comparison to his 4 rings. Jordan is 6 for 6. Shaq was the best player on the team for Kobe's first 3 championships. "Proven he can win one without Shaq" sounds pretty hollow when you consider he just gained Gasol instead.

[BettingWizard]

Jordan averaged 23 a game as a 40 year old in Kobe's era.

With today's rules, it's not ludicrous to say he would have averaged close to 35 a game for his career

[BettingWizard]

Jordan's first year with the wizards 39 years old


35 minutes 22.9 ppg 5.6 rebounds 5.2 assists


Kobe 26 years old


38 minutes 25.2 ppg 5.5 rebounds 5.6 assists



stop this joke of a comparison

[BettingWizard]

kobes not done and people dont like to think jordan can be surpassed. truth is, jordan played with another top50 player, the best coach ever, the best rebounder of his time and best 6th man.

Those tend to get over looked when praising jordan.

JORDAND ERA WAS OVERRATED. HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE HISTORIC, BUT HIS COMPETITION WAS VASTLY OVERRATED. In my opinion, if jordan played today, him and kobe would be competeting for top spot and with would be competitive.

JORDANS ERA: 3 top guards in his era averages
ISIAH thomas 19pts 3 rb 9 asst
Reggie Miller 18.2 pts 3rbs 3 ast
Mitch Richmond 21 pts 4rb 4 ast
Clyde drexler 20.7 pts 6rb 5ast
( not as GREAT as people say there are. And jordan winning over them isnt a big deal to me)

Kobes Era
lebron 27 pts 7 rb 7ast
wade 25pts 5 rb 5 ast
pierce 22pts 6rb 4 ast
( much more solid competitors in his era and being better than them is an accomplishment )

I wont compare them until kobe retires. But I will do so objectiviely and wont be like 99% of jordan fans who dismiss anything to make him look better. my point about both is they are the best in the league at there time, but Kobe is playing with better players in the league. Especially when you forget about the memory of "golden Years' and just look objectively.

Pierce isn't that great, what a joke. This era probably has as many hall of famers as the 90's, but the teams overall are weak in comparison. It's considered a bonus in today's game if you have a good bench. In the 90's you didn't make the playoffs without a bench

[shady610]

Pierce isn't that great, what a joke. This era probably has as many hall of famers as the 90's, but the teams overall are weak in comparison. It's considered a bonus in today's game if you have a good bench. In the 90's you didn't make the playoffs without a bench

Youre right. pierce is not that great. However, if he did that in the 90's, he would be considered an all time great. and thats my point. Jordans competition was lackluster. big fish small pond. the rest of his competition.

Barkley: was an overachiever who would get manhandled today.

Malone: great consisitent player but not a true superstar in my mind. Would do well today's game

David robinson: Great center, but needed Timmy to win rings. And timmy is considered by many to be the best pf ever.

hakeem: top 3 center all time and would translate well in any era.


THe truth is, jordans era is overrated. NOT JORDAN. his era. I hate hearing people saying he is sooooo much bettter than everyone when in reality his peers were just overrated. you say pierce is not great and is a joke. Well his production is better than jordans peers but somehow they get labeled as an all time great. that to me is a joke.


JOrdan was great
Kobe is great

when kobe is done, we will compare. And until then i think people need to look up what Oscar robertson did, because that to me is GOAT material. Pure domination of a league

[BettingWizard]

Barkley getting manhandled is laughable.

Karl Malone is top 2 PF of all time at worst, guy just choked in certain games

[shady610]

Barkley getting manhandled is laughable.

Karl Malone is top 2 PF of all time at worst, guy just choked in certain games

Ok.. barkely manhandeld was not a fair choice of words on my part. I meant to imply that he wuoldnt be nearly as effective.


Karl is top 5 imo, but he is ranked behind kg an tim

[BettingWizard]

Kobe has already surpassed Jordan.....years ago

sorry...thats just how I feel....again....sorry..

[nj6]

Please don't compare the two, thanks.

[VTranX]

Jordan is still best and will never surpass him. He might be on the same level as MJ when he writes his final chapter of his career though.

[BettingWizard]

KOBE has already supassed MJ

[BernardMadoff]

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[onlooker]

In Jordan's championship years, he was never down 0-2, no less 0-3.

Not sure if he was ever down 0-3 in his career. Not really sure pre-1991.

Kobe>Jordan = Never.

[BrewVegas]

Jordan would have never looked so apathetic when being down 0-2 in a series.

[chantrain]

Nobody has or will surpass Jordan any time soon, he's called the greatest of all time for a reason.

[frostno98]

Kobe looked terrible in the must win game 7 against Boston last year. That trend continue into this year. The guy's done.

[onlooker]

Kobe looked terrible in the must win game 7 against Boston last year. That trend continue into this year. The guy's done.

He is now the Garden Snake.

[cockblocker]

33.5 ppg in the playoffs? dear god

What about his .487 fg%, 6.4 reb, 5.7 ast and 2.10 stls to go along with it.

[Roxxyfish]

[LVBOUND]

MJ would never go down 0-3 and get swept HAHA

[cockblocker]

kobes not done and people dont like to think jordan can be surpassed. truth is, jordan played with another top50 player, the best coach ever, the best rebounder of his time and best 6th man.

Those tend to get over looked when praising jordan.

JORDAND ERA WAS OVERRATED. HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE HISTORIC, BUT HIS COMPETITION WAS VASTLY OVERRATED. In my opinion, if jordan played today, him and kobe would be competeting for top spot and with would be competitive.

JORDANS ERA: 3 top guards in his era averages
ISIAH thomas 19pts 3 rb 9 asst
Reggie Miller 18.2 pts 3rbs 3 ast
Mitch Richmond 21 pts 4rb 4 ast
Clyde drexler 20.7 pts 6rb 5ast
( not as GREAT as people say there are. And jordan winning over them isnt a big deal to me)

Kobes Era
lebron 27 pts 7 rb 7ast
wade 25pts 5 rb 5 ast
pierce 22pts 6rb 4 ast
( much more solid competitors in his era and being better than them is an accomplishment )

I wont compare them until kobe retires. But I will do so objectiviely and wont be like 99% of jordan fans who dismiss anything to make him look better. my point about both is they are the best in the league at there time, but Kobe is playing with better players in the league. Especially when you forget about the memory of "golden Years' and just look objectively.

Pierce and Lebron are SFs not guards. Doe'snt cahnge the fact he that MJ is on another level that kobe could'nt reach in his prime and never will since he going downhill fast.

[marcoloco]

no way in hell.kobe couldnt even tie jordans gym shoes,there will be nobody who can compare with jordan

yep

[jcubs55]

No... even if he does win six+ titles... it's still not comparable

[marcoloco]

kobes not done and people dont like to think jordan can be surpassed. truth is, jordan played with another top50 player, the best coach ever, the best rebounder of his time and best 6th man.

Those tend to get over looked when praising jordan.

JORDAND ERA WAS OVERRATED. HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE HISTORIC, BUT HIS COMPETITION WAS VASTLY OVERRATED. In my opinion, if jordan played today, him and kobe would be competeting for top spot and with would be competitive.

JORDANS ERA: 3 top guards in his era averages
ISIAH thomas 19pts 3 rb 9 asst
Reggie Miller 18.2 pts 3rbs 3 ast
Mitch Richmond 21 pts 4rb 4 ast
Clyde drexler 20.7 pts 6rb 5ast
( not as GREAT as people say there are. And jordan winning over them isnt a big deal to me)

Kobes Era
lebron 27 pts 7 rb 7ast
wade 25pts 5 rb 5 ast
pierce 22pts 6rb 4 ast
( much more solid competitors in his era and being better than them is an accomplishment )

I wont compare them until kobe retires. But I will do so objectiviely and wont be like 99% of jordan fans who dismiss anything to make him look better. my point about both is they are the best in the league at there time, but Kobe is playing with better players in the league. Especially when you forget about the memory of "golden Years' and just look objectively.

pierce & lebron are more of a forward than a guard. in mjs time there was many great guards
john stockton, penny & tim hardaway, mark price, mark jackson, kj, gary payton, john starks, magic

many of the 50 greatest players of all time played are from mjs era. back then there was hand checking and not so many ticky tac fouls called. now a days, a foul is called if you are too close. jordan would have scored 100+ points multiple times if he played in todays game

[goldengreek]

he's still young and working on championship number 5.the man is all business.did you see him next to chris rock? He had no interest in talking to a celebrity.to me this is a tough comparison but i think the one thing that bryant has on his side is that he started younger than jordan.he still has a way to go..

no

never

end of discussion

[tripp]

haha Not a chance

[the_situation]

Never

[rockaflocka]

never ever

[FindTheLock]

nice game laker fans. Going to turn it on from the couch next? All regular season we gotta hear about how the lakers will turn it on once the playoffs start. Kobe is so clutch he shot ANOTHER air ball tonight when his team needed a BIG bucket. Kobe is a very good player, but he isn't even close to 2nd or 3rd on the greatest of all time list, much less to MJ.

[twelvejewelz]

Wtf does kobe talking to chris rock have to do with anything is that even a serious statement???????? Have you seen jordan play?? Kobe will never be as good as jordan. Dont get me wrong he has put in the work but jordan was on another level. Derick rose is on his way to being as good as kobe imo