If the PERFECT GAME play at first is changed........

[Fishhead]

Will no-hitter and perfect game prop bets be paid if someone had the YES?

I'm talking not only in the SBR SPORTSBOOK, but offshore sportsbooks as well.

???

[Brock Landers]

who the f uck is going to change it??

They NEVER, I MEAN NEVER go back in baseball to change calls..

What about the immaculate reception, or the rothlisburger TD that wasn't vs seattle.

All kinds of shit that SHOULD be changed, but never will be.

Whats done is done.

[Deuce]

http://wxyt.cbslocal.com/2010/06/03/jim-joyce-right-after-he-robbed-armando-galarraga-of-a-perfect-game/

[Brock Landers]

Just saw a show on this on the NFL Network...
10 - Holy Roller.....Raiders vs Chargers
Stabler intentionally fumbles.

9 - Bottle Gate.....Jaguars vs Browns
Review after next play has already started.

8 - SuperBowl XL.....Seahawks vs Steelers
PI in endzone, Ben TD, holding call.

7 - Sugar Bear Roughing Call.....Patriots vs Raiders
Roughing call on Patriots after pass.

6 - 2002 NFC Wildcard.....Giants vs 49ers
Pass interference on 49ers not called, instead "eligible" reciever called ineligible.

5 - Burt Emmanuel Catch.....Buccaneers vs Rams
Catch called incomplete because ball hit ground during diving catch after he had already caught it and had control on the way to the ground.

4 - Mike Renfro Catch.....Oilers vs Steelers
Called incomplete even though replay showed both feet in.

3 - Music City Miracle.....Buffalo vs Titans
Lateral vs Forward Pass

2 - Tuck Rule.....Raiders vs Patriots
Fumble called incomplete pass.

1 - Immaculate Reception.....Raiders vs Steelers
Hit two offensive players in succession.

[Chi_archie]

they could change the play to an error theoretically Brock..... they change hits to errors and errors to hits after the game all the time

[HotStreak]

Unfortunately, for now, the umpires are a part of the game. They blow calls all the time. Changing the call would have to be accompanied by a move to instant replay throughout baseball.

[Brock Landers]

they could change the play to an error theoretically Brock..... they change hits to errors and errors to hits after the game all the time

i know Tom Brady fumbled in the Tuck Rule game, can we take away New England's superbowl win in 2001?

[Fishhead]

who the f uck is going to change it??

They NEVER, I MEAN NEVER go back in baseball to change calls..

What about the immaculate reception, or the rothlisburger TD that wasn't vs seattle.

All kinds of shit that SHOULD be changed, but never will be.

Whats done is done.

It was just stated on ESPN that the commish is going to look into doing such a thing today................but I doubt it will be changed and don't think it should.


However, there is that chance.........especially with this commish.

[Chi_archie]

Brock, i'm talking about baseball and you are bringing up football?

[Deuce]

Brock, i'm talking about baseball and you are bringing up football?

[Brock Landers]

Brock, i'm talking about baseball and you are bringing up football?

well this opens up a lot of discussions. nothing can be done, Ump blew the call, and i will say this is a first, he admitted it and fessed up immediately afterward instead of being a total prick and sticking to his guns.

http://cbswxyt.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/jim-joyce-edited.mp3?dl=1

[Fishhead]

well this opens up a lot of discussions. nothing can be done, Ump blew the call, and i will say this is a first, he admitted it and fessed up immediately afterward instead of being a total prick and sticking to his guns.

http://cbswxyt.files.wordpress.com/2...dited.mp3?dl=1

If EVER a call could and maybe should be changed, this would be it...........but agree, don't think it should.

[Holtgetsback]

This was the worst call in the history of baseball.

Do not underestimate the power of Bud Selig

[Chi_archie]

doesn't really open discussions on the other stuff...

baseball official scorers change hits from errors and vice versa all the time... and I think they can do so for 24 hrs... it is just usually not publicized, because it is inconsequential....

I don't think they should in this case, but a case could be made for it, because Galaraga took a bit too long to find the bag with his foot, and that made the play appear alot closer to Joyce...

in any event, you above examples in football all deal with the changing of the outcome/winner of the game.... and its a different sport...

in football, they go back and review game film all the time and change stats.... sacks, tackles, yards ect..

hell back in the 70's the nfl reviewed a game and gave Mercury Morris the EXACT 7 yards he needed so that he could have exactly 1,000 yards and join his teamate Csonka in the 1,000 yard club and be the first tandem to do so....

[big joe 1212]

If they change the call now, they open up a can of worms. Games will be getting protested all the time for bad calls and the protesting club will say "if you changed a bad call before, why not now?"

They should just use instant replay. Not for everything, but each manager should get 1 challenge a game.

I know they want to speed up games, but 1 challenge would only make the game go an extra 5 minutes max.

I think a challenge would make the game more interesting! Should only be used for homers, calls at the bases, etc. NOT FOR BALLS and STRIKES!

[Chi_archie]

if they changed the call to error.....which would be cheap IMO..... it wouldn't open up any can of worms... its been done, will continue to be done and is in the rule book......

10.01 in the Official MLB Rules says: "The official scorer shall make all decisions concerning judgment calls within 24 hours after a game concludes or is suspended. A player or club may request that the League President review a judgment call of an official scorer made in a game in which such player or club participated, by notifying the League President in writing or by approved electronic means within 24 hours of the conclusion or suspension of such game, or within 24 hours of the official scorer’s call, in the event the official scorer changes a call within 24 hours after a game concludes or is suspended, as provided in this Rule 10.01(a). The party requesting review shall submit, before the close of the second business day of the league office following the request for review, any written explanation or other evidence (such as videotapes or electronic media) the player or club wishes the League President to consider in reviewing such request. The League President shall not consider any evidence submitted after the time for submission set forth in this Rule 10.01(a). The League President, after considering the evidence submitted and any other evidence he wishes to consider, may request that the official scorer change a judgment call or, if the League President concludes that the judgment of the official scorer had been clearly erroneous, may order a change in a judgment call. No judgment decision shall be changed thereafter. A league may impose a reasonable fee upon a party requesting such review in the event that the judgment call of the official scorer being reviewed is upheld."

[Fishhead]

There was no error on the play..........

[Chi_archie]

Will no-hitter and perfect game prop bets be paid if someone had the YES?

I'm talking not only in the SBR SPORTSBOOK, but offshore sportsbooks as well.

???

where did they have no-hitter and perfect game props on this?

[Cabo]

There was no error on the play, just a Bad call by the ump.

[rm18]

they had props after braden's no hitter but i dont think any were pending since Halladay's

[pavyracer]

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[brooks85]

Just saw a show on this on the NFL Network...
10 - Holy Roller.....Raiders vs Chargers
Stabler intentionally fumbles.

9 - Bottle Gate.....Jaguars vs Browns
Review after next play has already started.

8 - SuperBowl XL.....Seahawks vs Steelers
PI in endzone, Ben TD, holding call.

7 - Sugar Bear Roughing Call.....Patriots vs Raiders
Roughing call on Patriots after pass.

6 - 2002 NFC Wildcard.....Giants vs 49ers
Pass interference on 49ers not called, instead "eligible" reciever called ineligible.

5 - Burt Emmanuel Catch.....Buccaneers vs Rams
Catch called incomplete because ball hit ground during diving catch after he had already caught it and had control on the way to the ground.

4 - Mike Renfro Catch.....Oilers vs Steelers
Called incomplete even though replay showed both feet in.

3 - Music City Miracle.....Buffalo vs Titans
Lateral vs Forward Pass

2 - Tuck Rule.....Raiders vs Patriots
Fumble called incomplete pass.

1 - Immaculate Reception.....Raiders vs Steelers
Hit two offensive players in succession.

hmm notice the squeelers

[TexansFan]

Just saw a show on this on the NFL Network...
10 - Holy Roller.....Raiders vs Chargers
Stabler intentionally fumbles.

9 - Bottle Gate.....Jaguars vs Browns
Review after next play has already started.

8 - SuperBowl XL.....Seahawks vs Steelers
PI in endzone, Ben TD, holding call.

7 - Sugar Bear Roughing Call.....Patriots vs Raiders
Roughing call on Patriots after pass.

6 - 2002 NFC Wildcard.....Giants vs 49ers
Pass interference on 49ers not called, instead "eligible" reciever called ineligible.

5 - Burt Emmanuel Catch.....Buccaneers vs Rams
Catch called incomplete because ball hit ground during diving catch after he had already caught it and had control on the way to the ground.

4 - Mike Renfro Catch.....Oilers vs Steelers
Called incomplete even though replay showed both feet in.

3 - Music City Miracle.....Buffalo vs Titans
Lateral vs Forward Pass

2 - Tuck Rule.....Raiders vs Patriots
Fumble called incomplete pass.

1 - Immaculate Reception.....Raiders vs Steelers
Hit two offensive players in succession.

I remember watching that game, what an awful call that was. It seems like Pitts has been given many calls over the years in big games that have helped them win.

[urge2kill]

SBR put the prop back up after Halladay's perfect game.

I'm pretty sure errors spoil perfect games so it really wouldn't matter for the perfect game if they changed it to an error.

[hockeyman30304]

I was an umpire for 8 years and you just cant blow that call....that was badddd