Why did Pavy opt out of SBR points?

[Fishhead]

You probably don't clear $8 an hour.

Stop with the jeolousy rants, don't you have some tacos to prepare, it's dinner time.

[ZetaPsi808]

SBR POINTS is worth between $3,000 and $5,000 currently per year ..............more then I originally projected 3 months ago(Thanks Wizard).

Not to shabby really for very little effort.

FH, how do you calculate that?

with my math, we get 7 points a day, for 365 days, so that is 2555 points a year. assume one can turn 6 points into $1. so 2555/6 = $426/year

[Fishhead]

FH, how do you calculate that?

with my math, we get 7 points a day, for 365 days, so that is 2555 points a year. assume one can turn 6 points into $1. so 2555/6 = $426/year

Contest overlays

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Actually, if one really wanted to put more time into it, it is worth more, as the SBR SPORTSBOOK takes what is equilavent to a $300 wager(2,000 pts).

[SBR_John]

Eventually SBR points will be the currency to enter contests, play in poker contests, go to bashes and everything else that goes on here. It's a interesting master plan.

If a poster is not in to points then best thing to do is to be taken out of the program. The powers to be will exclude trouble makers and those in some stage of moderation.

The program initially was designed to reward long time good posters. But at some point the brain trust figured it was a good concept and gave everyone points.

[Swinging Johnson]

Eventually SBR points will be the currency to enter contests, play in poker contests, go to bashes and everything else that goes on here. It's a interesting master plan.

If a poster is not in to points then best thing to do is to be taken out of the program. The powers to be will exclude trouble makers and those in some stage of moderation.

The program initially was designed to reward long time good posters. But at some point the brain trust figured it was a good concept and gave everyone points.

Johnny...can I call you Johnny? When is the poker coming? Wal is looking to be the Chris Moneymaker of SBR and he wakes up to check his computer in the middle of the night to see if Santa came, I mean to see if you guys have made the big announcement. I've got to say, that would be exceptionally cool. And by the way, can you loosen up the casino a bit? I've been handed more bad beats than a lead singer with a deaf drummer.

[pavyracer]

Eventually SBR points will be the currency to enter contests, play in poker contests, go to bashes and everything else that goes on here. It's a interesting master plan.

If a poster is not in to points then best thing to do is to be taken out of the program. The powers to be will exclude trouble makers and those in some stage of moderation.

The program initially was designed to reward long time good posters. But at some point the brain trust figured it was a good concept and gave everyone points.

This is a good concept John but I disagree with one item. When you make the points as the currency then you water down the quality of posting. There are hundreds of posters here with the only intent of logging here once a day and collect the points. So thinking longterm in a couple years you will end up with a forum that becomes like a fast food chain. You had a blue collar diner before the points program started and now you have a McDonald's.

[Swinging Johnson]

It's called progress Pavy. It attracts attention which turns into traffic. This is a business model. This site doesn't exist for your pleasure. There will be some 1 post wonders but that won't dilute the quality of the content to the point where it is intolerable. In addition, most who have no interest in posting more than once and just for points will not last long as they will grow tired of this forum.

Pavy, you're a bit too self righteous here. This whole thing stems from you getting dissed. You didn't like it and now you're masquerading as the William Faulkner of forumville. Deep down inside in places that you don't want to talk about, you want those points, you need those points and you're just hoping that someday SBR John, Crazy Lou, er, Lou, Billy D, Willie Bee and the whole crew send you enough points to compensate you for all the trauma. Perhaps a personal phone call to apologize is in order. But when the phone doesn't ring Pavy...you'll know it's SBR.

[obamaismyuncle]

It's called progress Pavy. It attracts attention which turns into traffic. This is a business model. This site doesn't exist for your pleasure. There will be some 1 post wonders but that won't dilute the quality of the content to the point where it is intolerable. In addition, most who have no interest in posting more than once and just for points will not last long as they will grow tired of this forum.

Pavy, you're a bit too self righteous here. This whole thing stems from you getting dissed. You didn't like it and now you're masquerading as the William Faulkner of forumville. Deep down inside in places that you don't want to talk about, you want those points, you need those points and you're just hoping that someday SBR John, Crazy Lou, er, Lou, Billy D, Willie Bee and the whole crew send you enough points to compensate you for all the trauma. Perhaps a personal phone call to apologize is in order. But when the phone doesn't ring Pavy...you'll know it's SBR.

Very well said..

[pavyracer]

It's called progress Pavy. It attracts attention which turns into traffic. This is a business model. This site doesn't exist for your pleasure. There will be some 1 post wonders but that won't dilute the quality of the content to the point where it is intolerable. In addition, most who have no interest in posting more than once and just for points will not last long as they will grow tired of this forum.

Pavy, you're a bit too self righteous here. This whole thing stems from you getting dissed. You didn't like it and now you're masquerading as the William Faulkner of forumville. Deep down inside in places that you don't want to talk about, you want those points, you need those points and you're just hoping that someday SBR John, Crazy Lou, er, Lou, Billy D, Willie Bee and the whole crew send you enough points to compensate you for all the trauma. Perhaps a personal phone call to apologize is in order. But when the phone doesn't ring Pavy...you'll know it's SBR.

Not saying the points program is bad. I'm just saying 50% or more of the participants only log in to collect the 6 daily free points. How is traffic being generated by making a single daily post? If it wasn't for JJ to generate traffic with his magic no one would bother to make a second post after the first one which in the only one that matters every day.

[Swinging Johnson]

Not saying the points program is bad. I'm just saying 50% or more of the participants only log in to collect the 6 daily free points. How is traffic being generated by making a single daily post? If it wasn't for JJ to generate traffic with his magic no one would bother to make a second post after the first one which in the only one that matters every day.

Ok Pavy, you've not taken my bait. You've remained civil and so I shall give you credit for that though I do stand behind my original premise as to why you are not getting the "point(s)." However, I will take issue that more than 50% post for their 6 SBR points. Look, we've all joined sites for freebies and the bottom line is if the site holds no interest (which would be the natural conclusion for anyone posting only to get points) to the poster, it is only a matter of time before the poster stops visiting.

But here's the beauty of the model. It gets people to join up, take their free points and slowly but methodically lure them into our little layer of gambling degen hell. Essentially Pavy, the posters will weed themselves out. And here's what most people seem to miss about SBR. No matter which poster takes issue with them, there isn't one that is indispensible to the site and that includes JJGold. Yes, I said it! The business model which consists of points, contests, free plays, SBR TV, trips, bashes, etc...is of greater importance than any poster here, including JJ, so that means, the SBR boys are fairly autonomous and quite honestly, don't need any one poster in particular. Of course that doesn't mean they want to lose an excellent poster like you or a legend like JJ but the reality is, they can not only survive and sustain a loss of any given poster they can continue to thrive. Therefore, they don't have to take shit from anyone. Bread was the first casualty of this new SBR autonomy. They are our gods. Bow before them and behold their magnificence.

[obamaismyuncle]

Ok Pavy, you've not taken my bait. You've remained civil and so I shall give you credit for that though I do stand behind my original premise as to why you are not getting the "point(s)." However, I will take issue that more than 50% post for their 6 SBR points. Look, we've all joined sites for freebies and the bottom line is if the site holds no interest (which would be the natural conclusion for anyone posting only to get points) to the poster, it is only a matter of time before the poster stops visiting.

But here's the beauty of the model. It gets people to join up, take their free points and slowly but methodically lure them into our little layer of gambling degen hell. Essentially Pavy, the posters will weed themselves out. And here's what most people seem to miss about SBR. No matter which poster takes issue with them, there isn't one that is indispensible to the site and that includes JJGold. Yes, I said it! The business model which consists of points, contests, free plays, SBR TV, trips, bashes, etc...is of greater importance than any poster here, including JJ, so that means, the SBR boys are fairly autonomous and quite honestly, don't need any one poster in particular. Of course that doesn't mean they want to lose an excellent poster like you or a legend like JJ but the reality is, they can not only survive and sustain a loss of any given poster they can continue to thrive. Therefore, they don't have to take shit from anyone. Bread was the first casualty of this new SBR autonomy. They are our gods. Bow before them and behold their magnificence.

[pavyracer]

Since you have no data to present you are assuming that posters post up after using their free plays which they acquire using their points. Here is the flow to your system. People get the free points and bet at the book. Then if they grow a balance at the points book they cash out for freeplays. Now if they rollover the freeplay at the real book they cash out. Most likely they lose. And then they go back to square one and they bet points. You are overestimating the amount of posters who after getting a freeplay with their points they post up at the book.
But since you have no data to back up your claims you believe what you write.

[SBR_John]

Ok Pavy, you've not taken my bait. You've remained civil and so I shall give you credit for that though I do stand behind my original premise as to why you are not getting the "point(s)." However, I will take issue that more than 50% post for their 6 SBR points. Look, we've all joined sites for freebies and the bottom line is if the site holds no interest (which would be the natural conclusion for anyone posting only to get points) to the poster, it is only a matter of time before the poster stops visiting.

But here's the beauty of the model. It gets people to join up, take their free points and slowly but methodically lure them into our little layer of gambling degen hell. Essentially Pavy, the posters will weed themselves out. And here's what most people seem to miss about SBR. No matter which poster takes issue with them, there isn't one that is indispensible to the site and that includes JJGold. Yes, I said it! The business model which consists of points, contests, free plays, SBR TV, trips, bashes, etc...is of greater importance than any poster here, including JJ, so that means, the SBR boys are fairly autonomous and quite honestly, don't need any one poster in particular. Of course that doesn't mean they want to lose an excellent poster like you or a legend like JJ but the reality is, they can not only survive and sustain a loss of any given poster they can continue to thrive. Therefore, they don't have to take shit from anyone. Bread was the first casualty of this new SBR autonomy. They are our gods. Bow before them and behold their magnificence.

I enjoyed the post but do not agree about JJ Gold. Biz models and traffic increases, growth and all that stuff has its place alright but a forum is about people. This is JJ Gold's forum and doesnt matter if some idea de jour is working or points or some contest or whatever. JJ has been here from day 1 and as Pavy and his other critics know, SBR will always have his back.

[Fishhead]

I enjoyed the post but do not agree about JJ Gold. Biz models and traffic increases, growth and all that stuff has its place alright but a forum is about people. This is JJ Gold's forum and doesnt matter if some idea de jour is working or points or some contest or whatever. JJ has been here from day 1 and as Pavy and his other critics know, SBR will always have his back.

You're making good sense today with thy posts..........nice to see you right the ship.

[tullamore]

If you keep kissing a$$ like that, maybe you wont have dumpster dive anymore.

[pavyracer]

I enjoyed the post but do not agree about JJ Gold. Biz models and traffic increases, growth and all that stuff has its place alright but a forum is about people. This is JJ Gold's forum and doesnt matter if some idea de jour is working or points or some contest or whatever. JJ has been here from day 1 and as Pavy and his other critics know, SBR will always have his back.

I think you are confusing me with someone else. I am a big fan of JJ. I spoke with him a couple times over the phone. You hardly find ever a single JJ thread that I haven't posted. I'm not sure if you have read my posts here in their entirety but I'm not his critic by no means.

[flyingillini]

in the beginning Pavy cashed out Target Gift cards and other items. It took away his focus to bet real money. Pavy is a hero on SBR.

[pavyracer]

in the beginning Pavy cashed out Target Gift cards and other items. It took away his focus to bet real money. Pavy is a hero on SBR.

[Swinging Johnson]

I enjoyed the post but do not agree about JJ Gold. Biz models and traffic increases, growth and all that stuff has its place alright but a forum is about people. This is JJ Gold's forum and doesnt matter if some idea de jour is working or points or some contest or whatever. JJ has been here from day 1 and as Pavy and his other critics know, SBR will always have his back.

There is no doubt JJGold is exclusive to SBR and he is a draw. Nobody doubts that and based on your response it's clear you value his contributions, as do most of us. However, the beauty of what you've created by thinking out of the box and creating your own blueprint is that SBR's very existence is not predicated on any one poster, even a legend like JJ.

Let's say one day JJ disappears. It's Vegas Dave X 10, or a 100 or whatever number you're comfortable with. The first thing all these gamblin' Nancies will do is talk about where he went, was he fired, SBR really screwed the pooch this time and yada yada yada. Oh this would be like a knitting circle on steroids. The gossip would make TMZ look like the NY Times. But then, as time passes and the rumors are put to rest, the steady beat of SBR's drum begins to resonate once again. And all the "defectors" either never leave or slowly come back. Because your site has a multitude to offer, not the least of which is frenzied forum activity. Now is SBR better with JJGold and his outrageous antics? You better believe it is. But the essence of my argument is that SBR does not hinge on any one poster. You have built in too many other features to rely exclusively on one or two personalities. And by virtue of your traffic, you will most assuredly bring new characters into the mix.

This is not a knock on JJGold. I happen to be a fan. What this is, is a testament to a very carefully and skillfully constructed business model. Now you may of course, diminish my hypothesis and publically extoll the virtues of JJGold and how SBR would never be the same. I think that's probably good politics on your part and I partially subscribe to that assertion. However, we both know the business construct is too solid and too methodically woven to be shaken by a defection from any one poster. I'm fukkin exhausted.

[sickler]

in the beginning Pavy cashed out Target Gift cards and other items. It took away his focus to bet real money. Pavy is a hero on SBR.

Yes but Pavy said they were given to charity. That would follow the policy of SBR employees not using the points on themselves.

Something is fishy about this no-point situation. Fess up, Pavy!

[Swinging Johnson]

Ah Sickler, you just know it was Pavy on the grassy knoll.

[pavyracer]

Yes but Pavy said they were given to charity. That would follow the policy of SBR employees not using the points on themselves.

Something is fishy about this no-point situation. Fess up, Pavy!

Can you imagine the office meetings if I was an employee? I would force JJ to make the sickest videos ever. Would have a dominatrix strap him with leather and bring him into submission. Then when he is about to explode his load I would have him read his spreadsheet loud with live play play from Loshak on SBR.TV.

[pico]

why do you care

[Swinging Johnson]

why do you care

Why do you care that I care?

[sickler]

Can you imagine the office meetings if I was an employee? I would force JJ to make the sickest videos ever. Would have a dominatrix strap him with leather and bring him into submission. Then when he is about to explode his load I would have him read his spreadsheet loud with live play play from Loshak on SBR.TV.

[mtneer1212]

The damn SBR casino eats all of my points. I'm such a degen......

[Swinging Johnson]

The damn SBR casino eats all of my points. I'm such a degen......

Yeah, tell me about it. I told SBR John I've taken more bad beats than a lead singer with a deaf drummer. Everyday I go in there with my 6 or 7 points, play one hand of blackjack and get cleaned. Sounds like the definition of insanity...doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.