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  • diamond
    SBR MVP
    • 02-09-06
    • 3636

    #1
    If you were the GM of Pittsburgh Pirates
    What would you say right now after that disgraceful inning from Morton (once again)? Would you fire him the next day?
  • Chi_archie
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-22-08
    • 63172

    #2
    if pirate gm's got fired everytime their pitchers had a bad first inning (guys like duke, maholm ect have been notorious for first inning woes for years) they'd be on their 98th gm since 2000
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    • diamond
      SBR MVP
      • 02-09-06
      • 3636

      #3
      Originally posted by Chi_archie
      if pirate gm's got fired everytime their pitchers had a bad first inning (guys like duke, maholm ect have been notorious for first inning woes for years) they'd be on their 98th gm since 2000
      Fire Morton I meant Im thinking about his year, and his previous years, never been any good.
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      • Chi_archie
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-22-08
        • 63172

        #4
        thing about morton is that he has great stuff... best stuff on the staff....

        he just is a mental midget....

        to answer the original question, now that I understand it better....

        this GM traded Nate McClouth to the braves and Morton was in the package..... he is gonna give him every opportunity to turn his season around.....

        Pirates are looking to compete in 2012 basically, they should figure out now what they have with some of their "projects" before then... they really have nothing to lose....

        doesn't matter much if they win 55 games and finish last or win 71 games and finish last, if you ask me..

        so no I think unless Morton still has minor league options left. (he prob does) He'll be pitching for a bit longer in the pirates organization
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        • diamond
          SBR MVP
          • 02-09-06
          • 3636

          #5
          Originally posted by Chi_archie
          thing about morton is that he has great stuff... best stuff on the staff.... he just is a mental midget.... to answer the original question, now that I understand it better.... this GM traded Nate McClouth to the braves and Morton was in the package..... he is gonna give him every opportunity to turn his season around..... Pirates are looking to compete in 2012 basically, they should figure out now what they have with some of their "projects" before then... they really have nothing to lose.... doesn't matter much if they win 55 games and finish last or win 71 games and finish last, if you ask me.. so no I think unless Morton still has minor league options left. (he prob does) He'll be pitching for a bit longer in the pirates organization
          Ok appreciate your feedback. Baseball is not my "main sport", but I see your reasoning. But people that are mentally weak, tend to fail in every sport, it takes a lot to change that.
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          • brooks85
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-05-09
            • 44709

            #6
            id sell
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            • Andy117
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 02-07-10
              • 9511

              #7
              Originally posted by diamond
              Fire Morton I meant Im thinking about his year, and his previous years, never been any good.
              Players don't get fired. They get released or sent to the minors. In Morton's case, he'd go to the minors.
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              • Chi_archie
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-22-08
                • 63172

                #8
                yeah and pirates have had more than a few "head cases"... what they call million dollar arms with 10 cent heads...

                guys like Kris Benson, Kip Wells, Ian Snell.... Morton should be the next in that line...

                if you look at his last 5 starts before tonight... 4 of them were decent, so he seemingly had turned a corner...

                he is usually the victim of one really really bad inning..

                wouldn't suprise me to see him go 6-7 innings and not give up a run the rest of the way and strike out 7.... or get taken out in the 2nd.... either one would not suprise me
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                • gryfyn1
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-30-10
                  • 3285

                  #9
                  Well, 1st off, Morton pitched OK last year ( 4.55ERA, 4.15FiP, 5.8K/9, 49% GB) and he's still fairly young, just 26 this year.

                  But the Pirates really have to figure out if he's going to be a successful major leaguer - While he's been a grease fire so far this year, he's seemed to be improving allowing 3 or less runs while pitching 6 innings is 3 of his last 4 starts.

                  The Pirates aren't competing this year, and under the best case scenario not next year either - so they need to figure out what to do with players like Morton - see if he can help them going foward by either being a part of the team or flipping him for younger talent - While I said Morton was fairly young at 26, as Yogi Berra said " It gets late early out there"
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                  • PAULYPOKER
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 12-06-08
                    • 36581

                    #10
                    I would never take the job as GM for the simple fact you must pay for your product and the Pirates are the stingiest in the business when it comes to the Money category so as a GM your hands are tied behind your back when you can't choose your product...............
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                    • pavyracer
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 04-12-07
                      • 82865

                      #11
                      Keep Morton. We are not giving you McLouth back Pittsburgh!
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                      • stealthyburrito
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 05-12-09
                        • 21562

                        #12
                        mclouth is such crap, braves got a pretty raw deal there.
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                        • pavyracer
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 04-12-07
                          • 82865

                          #13
                          Originally posted by stealthyburrito
                          mclouth is such crap, braves got a pretty raw deal there.
                          Nate is a good player.
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                          • lakerboy
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 04-02-09
                            • 94379

                            #14
                            I would hire Jim Leyland and bring back Bobby Bonilla/Andy Van Slyke and Doug Drabek.
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                            • floridagolfer
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-19-08
                              • 2757

                              #15
                              A good start would be to convince the owner to sell the team to Mark Cuban, who's from the area and would love to own the team. Cuban is a bozo much of the time, but there's no questioning his willingness to spend money and field a contender.
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                              • PAULYPOKER
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 12-06-08
                                • 36581

                                #16
                                Pirates sell their tickets by giving their dumb ass fans cracker jack box prizes and fireworks every other day I'm not bullshitten ya either this is the honest truth.........
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                                • xmrblueduckyx
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 03-11-09
                                  • 300

                                  #17
                                  i'd kill myself.
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                                  • stealthyburrito
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 05-12-09
                                    • 21562

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                    Nate is a good player.
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                                    • fletch49
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 04-12-10
                                      • 407

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by diamond
                                      What would you say right now after that disgraceful inning from Morton (once again)? Would you fire him the next day?
                                      When you are the Pirates, Morton is as good as anyone else you have. You have a horrible squad from years of very bad general managers' decisions. The fault is not in the players but in the 'corporation' who put this team together
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                                      • emoney
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-12-09
                                        • 1481

                                        #20
                                        i don't understand how this guy is in the majors
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