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  • wal66
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-14-08
    • 5305

    #1
    Poker and Daniel Negreanu
    Personality wise Daniel has always been one of my favorite players. I will admit sometimes some of the things is says to Mike the Mouth are harsh but it's just guys bustin guys balls.

    The last couple of days though I have had to spend alot of time in the office doing paperwork and have had Justin TV on and really been paying attention to the way Negreanu plays. I've seen him play hundreds of times but for whatever reasons I guess I wasn't really paying close attention cause I just assumed he played very good and had amazing read skills. Maybe in tournament play this has been the case but watching his play over the last couple of seasons in the High Stakes cash games he's more stubburn than good. Sure he took some horrible beats after flopping golden but when you evaluate what the hands were prior to the flop he put himself at risk when he could have easily waited for better spots.

    I'm not picking on Negreanu by any means. He has won more at poker than I probably ever will. He's also not alone either. I think many players, pro's and amateurs alike often think the situations incorrectly. Most players tend to think what hands they can beat rather than what hands can beat me. Now when the deck is running you over and you are running good it is reasonable to assume you have the best of most situations and therefore you are proned to look only at which hands you can beat. However when you are running bad and every deck the dealers puts into play seems like it was made in Syberia you have to look at the flipside and really invision all the hands that can beat you.
  • mathdotcom
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-24-08
    • 11689

    #2
    Originally posted by wal66
    Personality wise Daniel has always been one of my favorite players. I will admit sometimes some of the things is says to Mike the Mouth are harsh but it's just guys bustin guys balls.

    The last couple of days though I have had to spend alot of time in the office doing paperwork and have had Justin TV on and really been paying attention to the way Negreanu plays. I've seen him play hundreds of times but for whatever reasons I guess I wasn't really paying close attention cause I just assumed he played very good and had amazing read skills. Maybe in tournament play this has been the case but watching his play over the last couple of seasons in the High Stakes cash games he's more stubburn than good. Sure he took some horrible beats after flopping golden but when you evaluate what the hands were prior to the flop he put himself at risk when he could have easily waited for better spots.

    I'm not picking on Negreanu by any means. He has won more at poker than I probably ever will. He's also not alone either. I think many players, pro's and amateurs alike often think the situations incorrectly. Most players tend to think what hands they can beat rather than what hands can beat me. Now when the deck is running you over and you are running good it is reasonable to assume you have the best of most situations and therefore you are proned to look only at which hands you can beat. However when you are running bad and every deck the dealers puts into play seems like it was made in Syberia you have to look at the flipside and really invision all the hands that can beat you.
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    • fightingwarrior
      Restricted User
      • 05-06-10
      • 7818

      #3
      This a joke right


      he is one of the best if not best players in the world what he did in 2004 in the poker world tells me he could lose every single game from now on and still be great.he is top 5 in every single aspect of poker.
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      • wal66
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-14-08
        • 5305

        #4
        Originally posted by mathdotcom
        Mathy, until my time is done it's still an option. You never know when you're gonna hit that huge payday that leads to a even bigger opportunity. Average Joe's have won the World Series of Poker more than once.
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        • canon714
          SBR Sharp
          • 04-06-10
          • 498

          #5
          Have you ever watched durrr play? He is one carzy man!
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          • wal66
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 10-14-08
            • 5305

            #6
            Originally posted by fightingwarrior
            This a joke right


            he is one of the best if not best players in the world what he did in 2004 in the poker world tells me he could lose every single game from now on and still be great.he is top 5 in every single aspect of poker.
            2004 was definately a great year. there have been bright spots scattered here and there since as well. Pay attention to his play in the High Stakes games from the GSN series. I will admit there were some bad beats but many times he called off loads of money when all signs screamed FOLD!

            Now certainly he doesn't boast about himself the way Hellmuth does but the ego still gets in his way far more often than it should even if mentally.
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            • wal66
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 10-14-08
              • 5305

              #7
              Originally posted by canon714
              Have you ever watched durrr play? He is one carzy man!
              Tom Dwan just might very well be the scariest opponent at any table. Lots of young European players show no fear but of all the young guns out there Dwan has the potential to be the best in the game. If he ever learns tournament patience he will be unstopable.
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              • MC PICKS
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-10-10
                • 6644

                #8
                What yuo gotta remember is for every time you see negraneau aor dwan hit a monster hand with complte garbage, there are 9 other times they folded it. An hour long TV program for tournaments stake is actually hours of realtime cards being played. Tournament TV is basically a highlight film.
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                • ttwarrior1
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 06-23-09
                  • 28467

                  #9
                  when you play in every event and have money your gonna win. he plays suited connectors like they are gold and he doesn't play online much as he minus a few million online
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                  • VTranX
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-02-10
                    • 1975

                    #10
                    kenny tran rocks.
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                    • MC PICKS
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-10-10
                      • 6644

                      #11
                      Originally posted by VTranX
                      kenny tran rocks.
                      Great cash player. Sick Call Kenny.
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                      • Sam Odom
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-30-05
                        • 58063

                        #12
                        He got some awful beats in this years HSP TV shows. Mike the Mouth killed him with an all-in Full House once.
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                        • hustla
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-20-09
                          • 1235

                          #13
                          Guys you really believe in this poker bullshit? A LOT of poker "stars" are long term loser, the "big" TJ Cloutier want to sell his WSOP bracelet for few grands on ebay coz he had not money
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                          • MC PICKS
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-10-10
                            • 6644

                            #14
                            Originally posted by hustla
                            Guys you really believe in this poker bullshit? A LOT of poker "stars" are long term loser, the "big" TJ Cloutier want to sell his WSOP bracelet for few grands on ebay coz he had not money
                            Depends on how you manage your money.
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                            • UntilTheNDofTimE
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 05-29-08
                              • 9285

                              #15
                              Wal to answer your question thoufh negreanu has never been a great cash game player. He is one of the top 3 tournament players though.
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                              • UntilTheNDofTimE
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 05-29-08
                                • 9285

                                #16
                                Originally posted by hustla
                                Guys you really believe in this poker bullshit? A LOT of poker "stars" are long term loser, the "big" TJ Cloutier want to sell his WSOP bracelet for few grands on ebay coz he had not money
                                Theres a lot of broke NBA players as well whats your point.
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                                • Sam Odom
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-30-05
                                  • 58063

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Sam Odom


                                  He got some awful beats in this years HSP TV shows. Mike the Mouth killed him with an all-in Full House once.


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                                  • mrmarket
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-26-10
                                    • 4953

                                    #18
                                    Ignorance is bliss!
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                                    • Emily_Haines
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 04-14-09
                                      • 15917

                                      #19
                                      He hasn't realized that folding is a option.
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        Wally Danny and most other big names have not won a fukkin poker tourney in years

                                        They are just names, poker is pure gambling for the most part

                                        That poker craze time is when Danny and some others had an edge because all squares were playing, now lots of people have learned the easy game and every tourney you see new names, pretty much even playing field now.
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                                        • wal66
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 10-14-08
                                          • 5305

                                          #21
                                          The game isn't easy though. Sure the concept is easy enough but the stress and the swings make it on anything but easy. You can play at the very top of your game and be the best to ever sit at a table and if the cards run cold you still go broke.

                                          I used Daniel as an example to start a poker thread but trust me I am not hating on his ability. He is still one of my favs but he does at times get himself into situations he could have easily avoided. Not that we all don't by the way.
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