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  • gr1624
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    • 03-03-09
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    #36
    Living in Wisconsin now gives me hope for a Super Bowl in the most historic football stadium in the world
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    • ijrod21i
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      • 02-20-10
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      #37
      Even though lately passing and scoring sells, the game was founded on pounding the rock on cold winter days. It's nice for the game to get back to where it once belonged.
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      • DwightShrute
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        • 01-17-09
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        #38
        how stupid was this decision? Moronic!

        What's next, having the annual Winter's Classic NHL new year's outdoors game in Miami or Los Angeles?
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        • Andy117
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          • 02-07-10
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          #39
          Originally posted by DwightShrute
          how stupid was this decision? Moronic!

          What's next, having the annual Winter's Classic NHL new year's outdoors game in Miami or Los Angeles?
          Really what's so bad about it? And that suggestion is just moronic.
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          • AlphaOmega
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            • 12-31-08
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            #40
            I hope it snows and the wind chill factor is supper low ... ICE BOWL BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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            • DwightShrute
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              • 01-17-09
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              #41
              Originally posted by Andy117
              Really what's so bad about it? And that suggestion is just moronic.
              Ok Andy, you go spend $1000 for a ticket to go sit in -50 wind chill and snow or sleet.

              Ya let's not have the biggest game of the year, the championship game, in a city and stadium where the conditions are nice. Why not schedule the game in Siberia the following year?

              While we are it, we should award the 2020 Winter Olympics to Arizona
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              • Andy117
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                #42
                Originally posted by DwightShrute
                Ok Andy, you go spend $1000 for a ticket to go sit in -50 wind chill and snow or sleet.

                Ya let's not have the biggest game of the year, the championship game, in a city and stadium where the conditions are nice. Why not schedule the game in Siberia the following year?

                While we are it, we should award the 2020 Winter Olympics to Arizona
                Let me know the next time there is a -50 wind chill in NJ.

                Have you been to a Super Bowl?

                I'm gonna guess that you probably haven't. If you haven't then why is this an issue?

                And again just like your point with hockey, the Winter Olympics in Arizona is a moronic suggestion. Winter Games have to be played in winter locations. Football can be and should be played anywhere.
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                • DwightShrute
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by Andy117
                  Let me know the next time there is a -50 wind chill in NJ.

                  Have you been to a Super Bowl?

                  I'm gonna guess that you probably haven't. If you haven't then why is this an issue?

                  And again just like your point with hockey, the Winter Olympics in Arizona is a moronic suggestion. Winter Games have to be played in winter locations. Football can be and should be played anywhere.
                  whether I have or haven't been to a game is irrelivant. The superbowl is a neutral site game (yes, I know it's possible for a home state team to make it to the big game when it happens to be in their homwetown) and from a pure fan's points of view only, I want to see it played under ideal circumstances is all.

                  Yes, I get the home field advantage of a Green Bay team earning the NFC championahip game in Lambo Field and as a fan, I can enjoy the game being played in Green bay in late January. The superbowl game is a different animal IMO.

                  We agree to disagree. I think it's silly. I do hop2eit's a nice sunny unually warm day for SB 2014 but I only wonder why take the chance? There's no reason to. Just play intin Florida, Texas, California etc like 99% of us want.
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                  • Andy117
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by DwightShrute
                    whether I have or haven't been to a game is irrelivant. The superbowl is a neutral site game (yes, I know it's possible for a home state team to make it to the big game when it happens to be in their homw town) and from a pure fan's points of view only, I want to see it played under ideal circumstances is all.

                    Yes, I get the homw fields advantage of a Green Bay team earning the NFC championahip game in Lambo Field and as a fan, I can enjoys the game being played in Green bay in late January. The superbowl game is a different animal IMO.

                    We agree to disagree. I think it's silly. I do hopw it's a nice sunny unually warm day for SB 2014 but I only wonder why take the chance? There's no reason to
                    Some of the NFL's most famous games have been played in bad weather, why not have the Super Bowl potentially played in those same conditions? There's really no downside to it.
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                    • DwightShrute
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by Andy117
                      Some of the NFL's most famous games have been played in bad weather, why not have the Super Bowl potentially played in those same conditions? There's really no downside to it.
                      perhaps.

                      But as far as your last sentence goes, I think you'd agree that if Miami played Green Bay in 2014 SB, the Packers would have the advantage, but if it was played in New Orleans or San Diego there wouldn't be as an advantage. Nevermind the potential of a better game to watch.
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                      • Andy117
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by DwightShrute
                        perhaps.

                        But as far as your last sentence goes, I think you'd agree that if Miami played Green Bay in 2014 SB, the Packers would have the advantage, but if it was played in New Orleans or San Diego there wouldn't be as an advantage. Nevermind the potential of a better game to watch.
                        It's an advantage to Miami if the game is played in a warm weather site as well though. A team like Miami is built around the fact that they always play in good weather. Also a warm weather team has been practicing and playing in nice weather. If you get a super bowl on a hot day that's a disadvantage for teams not used to playing in the hot.


                        Snow games are great to watch. Some of my favorite games have been played in the snow.
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                        • stealthyburrito
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                          • 05-12-09
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                          #47
                          bad weather, even if its a 1 in 50 chance, isn't worth the risk. just a bunch of money hungry suits pushing something that nobody wanted in the first place.
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                          • DwightShrute
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by Andy117
                            It's an advantage to Miami if the game is played in a warm weather site as well though. A team like Miami is built around the fact that they always play in good weather. Also a warm weather team has been practicing and playing in nice weather. If you get a super bowl on a hot day that's a disadvantage for teams not used to playing in the hot.
                            perhaps a slight advantage but don't forget teams like Green Bay and NY don't practice in the stadium they play usually if ever. They will practice in a dome or some kind of climate controlled place.

                            Ok, you'd rather watch the SB in a potenially ice surface, where a tom Brady attempts 10 passes and hands it off 45 times for a 6-3 final, so be it. The last decade has produced some of the best SB games in history, exciting and close for the most part. You want to change that up, fine. Imo why fix it if it ain't boken.
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                            • DwightShrute
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by stealthyburrito
                              bad weather, even if its a 1 in 50 chance, isn't worth the risk. just a bunch of money hungry suits pushing something that nobody wanted in the first place.
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                              • Andy117
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                perhaps a slight advantage but don't forget teams like Green Bay and NY don't practice in the stadium they play usually if ever. They will practice in a dome or some kind of climate controlled place.

                                Ok, you'd rather watch the SB in a potenially ice surface, where a tom Brady attempts 10 passes and hands it off 45 times for a 6-3 final, so be it. The last decade has produced some of the best SB games in history, exciting and close for the most part. You want to change that up, fine. Imo why fix it if it ain't boken.
                                Not all games in the snow are low scoring.
                                Expert recap and game analysis of the Green Bay Packers vs. Seattle Seahawks NFL game from January 12, 2008 on ESPN.
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                                • Irish Jet
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                                  • 12-02-08
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                                  #51
                                  "ideal conditions" are for pussies. Cold weather games are awesome.

                                  What will probably end up taking away from the game will be the half empty stadium in the 4th quarter, even if it's a close game.
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                                  • Andy117
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                                    #52
                                    The Super Bowl crowd sucks anyway.
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                                    • HoldEmHook!!
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                                      • 10-08-09
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                                      #53
                                      its awesome.....football being played the way it was meant to be played.....too many pussies not honoring contracts and sitting out because of a hang nail.......
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                                      • stealthyburrito
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                                        • 05-12-09
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Andy117
                                        The Super Bowl crowd sucks anyway.
                                        completely agree, they are certainly not the real fans and why would they brave the elements when they have their $500,000 indoor luxury suites??
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                                        • warriorfan707
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                                          • 03-29-08
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                                          #55
                                          Should be interesting
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                                          • OmgUrMom
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                                            • 02-07-10
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                                            #56
                                            won't be bad if weather is decent, but if there are terrible conditions will not be a good game
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                                            • floridagolfer
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                                              • 12-19-08
                                              • 2757

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by kmarinouofm
                                              its gonna suck.. this ticket is already an $$$ weekend when its in Miami or Orleans.. but now imagine having to deal with NYC? That week NYC is going to be a mad house to begin with.. hotels will scalp like crazy.. and honestly NYC is not a fun place for an event like this.. u will most likely stay in Manhattan .. have to take a cab or luxury car from your hotel which is going to be a mission super bowl sunday.. and $$$$ as hell between distance and traffic.. or u can take the Path into jersey for cheap.. try to get a car from Hoboken or keep taking the train closer to the stadium and get a ride from there.. i am sure there will be buses and free rides and all type of shit set up by the league .. but this is going to be awful at best...

                                              big corporate types aren't going to want to spend $$$ trying to entertain people in cold ass Meadowlands for this game..

                                              I predict box seats for this game will be at an all time high for a superbowl.. and more fans then CEO's will attend this year then previous years..

                                              Stick with Miami and Orleans.. they do super bowl right every year.. Honestly i think Miami is the best place to throw it every year.. the stadium is amazing.. the weather is usually good (yes it might rain) .. the playing surface is considered one of the best in the country for both football and baseball.. the box seats are amazing.. the tailgating rules and area is the best.. and u get South Beach parties leading up to the game..

                                              Why CHange that ???
                                              We'll see. The diehard fans of the teams in that year's SB will do whatever they have to in order to get tickets. But the corporate bigwigs that the NFL has made this game for, there's no way they're sitting in 10-degree weather for 4 hours.

                                              I don't know why the NFL has changed its attitude about this; it probably comes down to money.

                                              I hope they get 6 inches of snow that day. No, I take that back; make it 6 feet!
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                                              • HOLLY26
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                                                • 04-28-10
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                                                #58
                                                total on the temp

                                                someone should put an over under on the temp for the big game
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                                                • Shortstop
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                                                  • 01-02-09
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                                                  #59
                                                  I love it! Hopefully it's the Steelers and the Packers!
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                                                  • Andy117
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by OmgUrMom
                                                    won't be bad if weather is decent, but if there are terrible conditions will not be a good game
                                                    Some great games have been played in terrible conditions.
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                                                    • Z_Wipf
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                      whether I have or haven't been to a game is irrelivant. The superbowl is a neutral site game (yes, I know it's possible for a home state team to make it to the big game when it happens to be in their homwetown) and from a pure fan's points of view only, I want to see it played under ideal circumstances is all.

                                                      Yes, I get the home field advantage of a Green Bay team earning the NFC championahip game in Lambo Field and as a fan, I can enjoy the game being played in Green bay in late January. The superbowl game is a different animal IMO.

                                                      We agree to disagree. I think it's silly. I do hop2eit's a nice sunny unually warm day for SB 2014 but I only wonder why take the chance? There's no reason to. Just play intin Florida, Texas, California etc like 99% of us want.

                                                      Once again you are pulling numbers completely out of your ass and having nothing to back it up. 99%. ESPN already did a poll and 60% of the fans agree with the decision. You are in the minority bud.
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                                                      • DwightShrute
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Z_Wipf
                                                        Once again you are pulling numbers completely out of your ass and having nothing to back it up. 99%. ESPN already did a poll and 60% of the fans agree with the decision. You are in the minority bud.
                                                        Really Z_Wipf? Obviously the 99% was not meant to be a scientific or legitimate number but rather an attempt to make a point. Have you been locked up for so long that aren't familiar with common dialog or expressions?

                                                        If you say 60% polled are in favor, then ok so be it but the majority aren't always right. No one I know personally likes it.

                                                        "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." - Mark Twain
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                                                        • Andy117
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                          Really Z_Wipf? Obviously the 99% was not meant to be a scientific or legitimate number but rather an attempt to make a point. Have you been locked up for so long that aren't familiar with common dialog or expressions?

                                                          If you say 60% polled are in favor, then ok so be it but the majority aren't always right. No one I know personally likes it.

                                                          "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." - Mark Twain
                                                          Do you realize when you're contradicting yourself?
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                                                          • DwightShrute
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Andy117
                                                            Do you realize when you're contradicting yourself?
                                                            of course I do. that was the whole point of my reply.

                                                            Yes I pulled that 99% out of my ass, no kidding is all I was saying. Sarcasm. How else can you deal with someone that takes your 99% seriously.

                                                            What planet am I on?

                                                            Andy BTW, when I said earlier that it was moronic to have the game in NJ, I wasn't calling you a moron as you seem to think so. I just think the decision is stupid. I would never call you a moron. Stupid maybe but never moron

                                                            Yes, that last sentence was meant to be funny and should not be taken as a personal attack on your intelligence.
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                                                            • Z_Wipf
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                                                              #65
                                                              No you were clearly saying the majority of people are against it. You were very very wrong.
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                                                              • DwightShrute
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Z_Wipf
                                                                No you were clearly saying the majority of people are against it. You were very very wrong.
                                                                most don't take polls to be 100% accurate anyways. The 60% espn poll that you speak of.

                                                                where was the poll taken? New York? Or where did most of the votes on the poll come from? NY seems like a good guess.

                                                                How was the question asked? Would you like to see the SB in NY? Would you rather watch the SB in NY in February or Miami?

                                                                Or was it asked, would you attend the SB in NY? or was it... would you rather attend the SB in NY or San Diego in beg Feb?

                                                                I believe logical pure football fan outside NY area would overwhelmingly choose another location than NY. If I lived in NY I would likely feel different.

                                                                Take every poll at face value all you want but I choose not to.

                                                                Remember the SB isn't just the actual game itself. There are all the events leading 2 weeks leading up to the game. What are you gonna do in late January in the Meadowlands? Siphon gas contest? Ice skaking football contest?
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                                                                • Andy117
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                                  Andy BTW, when I said earlier that it was moronic to have the game in NJ, I wasn't calling you a moron as you seem to think so. I just think the decision is stupid. I would never call you a moron. Stupid maybe but never moron

                                                                  Yes, that last sentence was meant to be funny and should not be taken as a personal attack on your intelligence.
                                                                  I didn't take it that way.
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                                                                  • Z_Wipf
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                                    most don't take polls to be 100% accurate anyways. The 60% espn poll that you speak of.

                                                                    where was the poll taken? New York? Or where did most of the votes on the poll come from? NY seems like a good guess.

                                                                    How was the question asked? Would you like to see the SB in NY? Would you rather watch the SB in NY in February or Miami?

                                                                    Or was it asked, would you attend the SB in NY? or was it... would you rather attend the SB in NY or San Diego in beg Feb?

                                                                    I believe logical pure football fan outside NY area would overwhelmingly choose another location than NY. If I lived in NY I would likely feel different.

                                                                    Take every poll at face value all you want but I choose not to.

                                                                    Remember the SB isn't just the actual game itself. There are all the events leading 2 weeks leading up to the game. What are you gonna do in late January in the Meadowlands? Siphon gas contest? Ice skaking football contest?
                                                                    The question was do you agree with the NFL's decision on the 2014 SB. It's a country wide poll. Every state gets its say.

                                                                    So your concern is what is there to do 10 miles from a city of over 16 million people? Oh my.
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                                                                    • Andy117
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by DwightShrute



                                                                      Remember the SB isn't just the actual game itself. There are all the events leading 2 weeks leading up to the game. What are you gonna do in late January in the Meadowlands? Siphon gas contest? Ice skaking football contest?
                                                                      Why are people so hung up on events that they aren't going to attend?
                                                                      I remember hearing people complain about the Super Bowl in Jacksonville because there wasn't anything to do and thought it was funny that they didn't actually go down there.
                                                                      Also the Super Bowl is in Indianapolis in 2012, not exactly paradise itself. Any complaints there?
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                                                                      • DwightShrute
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Andy117
                                                                        Why are people so hung up on events that they aren't going to attend?
                                                                        I remember hearing people complain about the Super Bowl in Jacksonville because there wasn't anything to do and thought it was funny that they didn't actually go down there.
                                                                        Also the Super Bowl is in Indianapolis in 2012, not exactly paradise itself. Any complaints there?


                                                                        I am not up an an event that I will not be attending. I just added my thought on the subject. I am not gonna attend the Suns game tonight, the NYY game this afternoon or the Flyers game this evening either, but will be discussing it.

                                                                        I rather watch a game in ideal conditions than in potential frigid ones.
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