Those sites that are protecting Sportsbook.com can't be trusted.

20Four7 · 10-30-07, 11:23 AM

While it appears you guys are standing alone here, it is nice to see a light shining above all the darkness that is out there. Keep up the good work John, Bill and others.

SBR_John · 10-30-07, 11:48 AM

Actually we are not alone. The EOG and MadJackssports have both taken down Sportsbook.com. One could argue that tow and mw are not in the main mix. The two that could really make a difference are Covers and the Rx. We have heard that Covers will not allow them to renew but thats a wrist slap.

tblues2005 · 10-30-07, 12:01 PM

SBRJohn,

You may have forgotten about gambling911.com also on that.. I see them advertised there the last I seen it.

ShamsWoof10 · 10-30-07, 12:06 PM

I'll tell ya' what I like Linesmaker.com better SBoo's sister site because the lay out seems easier to read then scrolling around all over the place at SBooo...

I can be trusted and I support SBoo... I finally got off of my as* and faxed them my info... The check is on the way...

SBR_John · 10-30-07, 12:17 PM

Thanks tblues. I'm not sure where to put 911. Sting gets some good info but the forum is not active. If I would have thought it through a little I would have only mentioned Covers and Rx. Those other sites have little choice but to take the money and have no real influence over the books.

But if Covers and the Rx took them down they would refund the money and never try that again. As it stands, its still open season on the players. The next theft case from them will likely be even bigger.

tblues2005 · 10-30-07, 12:29 PM

You may want to contact them on this, I agree they do have some good information over there on certain things but if you can somehow contact them and hopefully they will be on your side on this issue, maybe when their contract runs out they will take them down also. You know a lot better than I do on that.

SBR_John · 10-30-07, 12:34 PM

G911 and tow handle things the same way. They were all over the SBG theft, which is good, but SBG is not a sponsor at either place. They had zero comment on Sportsbook.com which is a sponsor at both. None at all. No warnings no downgrades just complete silence. I'm fine with that. The smaller sites serve at their sponsors pleasure. They simply can not afford to criticize a sponsor much less take one down. They dont send enough players to make a difference so to Sportsbook.com, coming down off a low signup site would not bother them. Coming down from covers sure would though.

Justin7 · 10-30-07, 12:45 PM

John...

You know how some groups do google manipulation? There were jokes done with it with Bush and WMD. How hard would it be to have a search for Sportsbook.com return a link to a "Thieves" page as the #1 link?

jjgold · 10-30-07, 03:51 PM

John they get big money to protect them, what do you want them to do?

4FUN.AND$$ · 10-31-07, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

John they get big money to protect them, what do you want them to do?

then they truly don't care about the players who make thier site feasible. without the players the advertising is worthless.

TOW · 10-31-07, 01:19 AM

Dear John,

I'm not here to defend my choices nor to criticizes your post. You have the right to have a strong opinion and, by all means, this is your home.

Nevertheless, when riding the White Horse you should be a little bit more precise.

MadJack has sportsbetting.com among its advertisers (the one EOG took down allegedly for non renewal) while both MadJack and EOG advertise Oddsmaker.com (which you guys have on the "run list") and both advertise SBG Global.

Therefore I gather from your post that, despite all has been said about the aforementioned books (oddsmaker and sbg), they are both worth players trust.

Cheers,

TOW

tacomax · 10-31-07, 02:33 AM

I think the main argument is that SBR (whether it be SBR_John or SBR as a whole) gives props to a site that has the balls to remove a sponsor such as Sportsbook.com (for whatever reason) which is ripping people off left, right and centre. They're not having a go for the rest of the sponsors the site may have. Rome wasn't built in a day, and all that.

TOW · 10-31-07, 03:42 AM

Fair enough, however I'm still puzzled as to why a removal for non renewal would count towards good faith.

On the other hand MJ still promotes sportsbetting.com (sb affiliate) therefore I maybe still missing the point here.

jjgold · 10-31-07, 05:53 AM

Johhny whats your angle here?

MadJack · 11-20-07, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by TOW

Dear John,

I'm not here to defend my choices nor to criticizes your post. You have the right to have a strong opinion and, by all means, this is your home.

Nevertheless, when riding the White Horse you should be a little bit more precise.

MadJack has sportsbetting.com among its advertisers (the one EOG took down allegedly for non renewal) while both MadJack and EOG advertise Oddsmaker.com (which you guys have on the "run list") and both advertise SBG Global.

Therefore I gather from your post that, despite all has been said about the aforementioned books (oddsmaker and sbg), they are both worth players trust.

Cheers,

TOW

I had to register just to reply to this post

YOU have a lot of nerve, roberto, talking about other sites' advertisers

i left sportsbetting up, never took them down, because they were not involved in the correlated parlay fiasco and did not confiscate ANY accounts. They make their own business decisions independent of sportsbook.com.

i immediately took sportsbook.com down after i heard what happened and did my own DD on the problems. i have ZERO outstanding complaints about sportsbook.com with my members and I also helped A LOT of members from this site get paid when there was a problem with US banks not accepting certain checks people received from them.

i have ZERO outstanding complaints from any of my members about any of my advertisers. something you can definitely not claim for yourself.

i know what i'm doing, roberto, i've been dealing with sportsbooks, advertisers, and complaints in this industry for nearly 10 years now.

roberto <-- pot meet kettle

BEANTOWNJIM · 11-20-07, 06:36 PM

MADJACK DO I KNOW YOU.NO MUST BE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT NAME DOESNT RING A BELL.

ALL THE WATCHDOGS ARE CROOKS ROBERTO DIDNT YOUR UNCLE LENNY STEALL 660 DOLLARS FROM ME AND YOU SIDED WITH CASCADE SPORTSBOOK WHEN THEY CLEARLY BROKE THERE OWN WRITTEN RULES.YOUR THE BIGGEST THIEF IN THE INDUSTRY ROBERTO SO WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY MEANS SHIT.YOUR NOT EVEN A FACTOR IN THESE FORUMS ANYMORE SO STICK IT UP YOUR ARSE.

ROBERTO GOT PAID OFF BY CASCADE SPORTSBOOK WHEN LENNY STOLE 660 DOLLARS FROM ME.HE LOST ALL CREDIBILITY WHEN HE SIDED WITH CASCADE SPORTSBOOK WHEN THEY BROKE THERE OWN WRITTEN RULES AND STOLE A PLAYERS MONEY YEH MINE.

HedgeHog · 11-20-07, 06:48 PM

Btj: Stop Posting In Caps, You Stupid Prick.

BEANTOWNJIM · 11-20-07, 07:05 PM

LISTEN HEDGEHOG I WILL POST IN CAPS ANYTIME I WANT TO GOT IT PUNK.I HAVE BEEN POSTING IN CAPS FOR YEARS AND I HAVE (STATUS) DO YOU ANYTHING ABOUT (STATUS) IN THESE GAMBLING FORUMS HEDGEHOG I WANT A LITTLE RESPECT FROM YOU GOT IT KID.NOW GET GOING I THINK CAPTAI

N KANGAROO IS ON

jjgold · 11-20-07, 07:06 PM

Hedger be careful that is Jimmy's style.

HedgeHog · 11-20-07, 07:38 PM

BTJ:

It's just tough to read as you've been told several times before. I think you need a good kick in the Shamrocks. By the way, if you get racked, does JJ say ouch?

PS Being from Chicago, Bozo is my hero, not Capt Kangaroo.

fiveteamer · 12-19-08, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by BEANTOWNJIM

MADJACK DO I KNOW YOU.NO MUST BE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT NAME DOESNT RING A BELL.

ALL THE WATCHDOGS ARE CROOKS ROBERTO DIDNT YOUR UNCLE LENNY STEALL 660 DOLLARS FROM ME AND YOU SIDED WITH CASCADE SPORTSBOOK WHEN THEY CLEARLY BROKE THERE OWN WRITTEN RULES.YOUR THE BIGGEST THIEF IN THE INDUSTRY ROBERTO SO WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY MEANS SHIT.YOUR NOT EVEN A FACTOR IN THESE FORUMS ANYMORE SO STICK IT UP YOUR ARSE.

ROBERTO GOT PAID OFF BY CASCADE SPORTSBOOK WHEN LENNY STOLE 660 DOLLARS FROM ME.HE LOST ALL CREDIBILITY WHEN HE SIDED WITH CASCADE SPORTSBOOK WHEN THEY BROKE THERE OWN WRITTEN RULES AND STOLE A PLAYERS MONEY YEH MINE.

I didn't know this f'king tool posted here.

nosniboR11 · 12-19-08, 04:24 PM

How the hell is reading all caps hard to read? Hedge, did they not teach you how to read in Chicago, I do not doubt it.