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His hockey picks are on fire, but he is only using very small unit sizes for them. I asked him why doesn't he up the unit sizes on hockey above the unit sizes on football but he didn't answer. I'm not playing any more of his football picks.
Everybody gets Hot and Cold, nobody hits 60% over time. Do you now regret paying Subby ? What good are paid for picks if you don't play them ?
It stinks that he was the only one truly paid.
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#37
Originally posted by Doug
Everybody gets Hot and Cold, nobody hits 60% over time. Do you now regret paying Subby ? What good are paid for picks if you don't play them ?
It stinks that he was the only one truly paid.
I see no reason to throw money away on someone who is on a losing streak.
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#38
Oregon Wins!!! $2000 bet WINS!!!
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OrionSky
SBR Wise Guy
07-21-07
939
#39
I can't believe you have Rutgers in this tease
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#40
Originally posted by OrionSky
I can't believe you have Rutgers in this tease
Was teasing thru the 3 and 7. Just an experiment.
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ShamsWoof10
SBR MVP
11-15-06
4827
#41
How did it go today Curious..?
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#42
Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
How did it go today Curious..?
Up around $1600
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#43
Sun Nov 4 Rolling toward $600,000 rollover
Rollover Requirement $584,670
I had one NBA game and one NHL game as well as the NFL
NBA Toronto 103 100 Loss -$100
New Orleans +5 1/2 $113 $100 Win +$100
Utah -1/2 $113 $100
NHL Nashville $200 $200 Win +$200 Thanks to LT Profits!
NFL
Minnesota +7 1/2 $103 $100 Win +$100
Jets +4 $206 $200 Win +$200
KC -2 1/2 $515 $500 Loss -$515
Houston +3 $103 $100 Win +$100
Seattle +1 $206 $200 Loss -$206
NE Pats / Indy Colts UNDER 56 1/2 $1050 $1000 Win +$1000
Tennessee -4 $103 $100 Win +$100
Arizona +3 1/2 $103 $100 Loss -$103
Jax +3 1/2 $103 $100 Loss -$103
Detroit -3 $103 $100 Win +$100
Cincinatti -1 $206 $200 Loss -$200
Philly $206 $200 (may increase if early games win)
Atlanta $515 $500 Win +$500
Hedge Parlay 1 $50 to win $300 Loss -$50
Wash -4
KC -2 1/2
San Diego -7
Hedge Parlay 2 $50 to win $500 Loss -$50
Cleveland -1
NE Patriots -5 1/2
Philly +3
Pittsburgh -9
Miracle Teaser 100 to win 1500 Loss -$100
Minnesota +14
Cleveland +6
NE Patriots +1 1/2
Philly +10
Redskins +4
Green Bay +9 1/2
Carolina +11
Atlanta +4
Buffalo +8
miracle parlay: $100 to win $5300 Loss -$100
Minn +7 Win
Cleveland moneyline
New England -5 1/2
New York Jets +3 1/2 Win
Green Bay Packers +2 1/2 Win
Atlanta Falcons -3 Win
teasers I bet on earlier in the week, most of these teasers will get graded today:
NFL Teasers for Sunday Nov 4 and Monday Nov 5
Green Bay +2
Buffalo +1 1/2
Seattle +1 1/2
Pittsburgh -9
4 pick teaser 7 point $100
Green Bay +9 Win
Buffalo +8 1/2 Win
Seattle +8 1/2 Win
Pittsburgh -2
3 pick of GB, Buf, and Seattle 6 point $100 Win +$180
3 pick of Pitt, Seattle, Buf 7 point $100
every possible 2 pick teaser of the above 4 teams, some at 6 points, some at 7 points $100 each
GBay +9 1/2 Win $100
Buff +8
Gbay +9 Win +$100
Seattle +7 1/2
Gbay +9
Pittsburgh -2
Buff +8 Win +$100
Seattle +7 1/2
Buff +8
Pittsburgh -2
Seattle +7 1/2
Pittsburgh -2
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copper
SBR Hustler
10-22-07
75
#44
Oregon wins!!!!! $2k!!!! Finally, the week is turning around. Up to $9300 and down to $160,010 on my rollover. Sebastian turned it around yesterday and he will continue. For my likes today, I grabbed the Pats for $200 at -5. I think our plays will be opposite today. I like the Redskins to right the ship this week. I also like Cincy and Seattle. Cleveland hasn't won back to back to back games since who know.....7 years. Not going to start today against Seattle.
NBA Houston +4 1/2 $103 $100 Loss -$103
Houston OVER 189 1/2 $105 $100 Win +$100
NHL Rangers -135 $135 $100 Win $100
Montreal -140 $105 $75 Win +$75
Tampa Bay +130 $75 $100 Loss -$75
Edmonton +200 $50 $100 Loss -$50
Calgary +140 $50 $70 Loss -$50
Calgary UNDER 6 $130 $100 Win +$100
Capitals UNDER 6 $120 $100 Win $100
Philly UNDER 5 1/2 $140 $100 Win $100
Dallas UNDER 5 $130 $100 Push
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copper
SBR Hustler
10-22-07
75
#46
Another winning day yesterday. I hit the 1X rollover mark. Yeah.....only 19X to go!
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ShamsWoof10
SBR MVP
11-15-06
4827
#47
Keep it up fellas... You both are doing sweet... I can't say I still agree with so many games but hey you're doing well and I hope you guys keep winning...
Good Luck!!!
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copper
SBR Hustler
10-22-07
75
#48
I don't plays as many bets as Curious since my rollover is not nearly as much as his. My rollover requirement is $165k. I try to play 4-8 games per night for a total of about a dime. I figure it will take me about 4-5 months to reach it this way.
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#49
Tuesday, Nov 6th
Lots of plays today. Too tired to put them here twice. Going to list them as they get graded.
Rollover Requirement $581,095
Atlanta Thrashers $80 $50 Win +$50
NY Rangers $79 $75 Loss -$79
Atlanta UNDER $85 $75 Win +$75
Charlotte Bobcats $57 $50 Loss -$57
Phoenix Charlotte OVER Loss -$52
NY Rangers NY Islanders UNDER 5 Push
Washington Atlanta OVER 6 Loss -$115
Toronto $50 $90 Loss -$50
Toronto Ottawa UNDER 6 Push
Atlanta Hawks $113 $100 Loss -$113
Nickerbockers $73 $65 Win +$65
Nickerbockers $35 $47 Win +$47
Toronto $170 $150 Loss -$170
W. Michigan / C. Michigan UNDER 59 1/2 $103 $100 Loss -$103
W. Michigan $50 $70 Loss -$50
W. Michigan +3 1/2 $113 $100 Win $100
New Orleans $100 $125 Win +$125
Houston OVER $77 $75 Loss -$75
Houston $200 $240 Win +$240
Orlando $52 $50 Win +$50
Golden State $125 $100 Loss -$100
Golden State Cleveland UNDER 208 1/2 Loss -$85
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Doug
SBR Hall of Famer
08-10-05
6324
#50
I suggest putting the balance with the bets, Curious ! I'm rooting for you to collect. No player should go through what you have had to, and I've been there myself, but for less than you.
The small bet/ high volume approach makes sense to me.
I'd follow some cappers at places like RX,here, EOG and do CBB as well, to help churn it, if you aren't betting CBB already. The low juice games at BJO help the volume approach.
Look at Matchbook as well, if you can afford to fund there, and bet both sides ( just to roll it faster), Skybook for NBA is another option to catch a free half-point and maybe side a game here and there.
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#51
Originally posted by Doug
I suggest putting the balance with the bets, Curious ! I'm rooting for you to collect. No player should go through what you have had to, and I've been there myself, but for less than you.
The small bet/ high volume approach makes sense to me.
I'd follow some cappers at places like RX,here, EOG and do CBB as well, to help churn it, if you aren't betting CBB already. The low juice games at BJO help the volume approach.
Look at Matchbook as well, if you can afford to fund there, and bet both sides ( just to roll it faster), Skybook for NBA is another option to catch a free half-point and maybe side a game here and there.
I have been searching all the forums looking for posters who are consistently good. I found a few.
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cloudagh
SBR Sharp
04-08-07
486
#52
Originally posted by Doug
Look at Matchbook as well, if you can afford to fund there, and bet both sides ( just to roll it faster), Skybook for NBA is another option to catch a free half-point and maybe side a game here and there.
Doesn't the idea of a hedge or scalp only work if you can collect from both sides? What if all the hedge money ends up at BJO - you still aren't totally sure if they will pay, and you also have "real" money locked up for the duration of the rollover.
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Doug
SBR Hall of Famer
08-10-05
6324
#53
Originally posted by cloudagh
Doesn't the idea of a hedge or scalp only work if you can collect from both sides? What if all the hedge money ends up at BJO - you still aren't totally sure if they will pay, and you also have "real" money locked up for the duration of the rollover.
I'm saying not huge bets, just some action to push the rollover. The vig can be pretty cheap, and maybe catch something like :
+6, and -5.5 in hoops with low vig on both, even better if you lose at BJO. I don't know their line tendencies very well, but I did see low juice offered.
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#54
Wed Nov 7th
Rollover Requirement $579,420
Atlanta Hawks +5 1/2 $77 $75 Win +75
Morgan State +26 $105 $100 Win +100
Phoenix Atlanta UNDER 2061/2 $103 $100 Win +$100
4 pick teaser..too tired to type all that crap Lost -$100
Clippers Indiana UNDER 207 1/2 $77 $75 Win +$75
Clippers +6 1/2 $52 $50 Win +$50
Orlando Toronto 2nd Half UNDER 95 1/2 Lost -$110
Buffalo Sabres -155 $155 $100 Win +$100
Philly Flyers +110 $100 $110 Win +$110
Denver Nuggets +6 1/2 $103 $100 Loss -$100
Nashville Predators +210 $50 $105 Loss -$50
Florida Panthers +115 $75 $86 Loss -$75
Akron + 3 1/2 $105 $100 Win +$100
Akron / Ohio UNDER 78 Loss -$52
Columbus UNDER 5 $110 $100 Loss -$110
Memphis / Seattle UNDER 217 1/2 $77 $75 Win +$75
Dallas / San Jose UNDER 5 $120 $100 Win $100
Utah -9 $103 $100 Loss -$103
Portland +2 1/2 $52 $50 Win +$50
Portland New Orleans UNDER 217 1/2 $85 $75 Win +$75
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Bill Dozer
www.twitter.com/BillDozer
07-12-05
10894
#55
Originally posted by curious
I appreciate your help very much. I don't make any secret of the fact that my first sportsbet was made the last week of June.
I look at it like this, Big and Juicy gave me free money. I am not letting SBG Global off the hook, SBG is going to pay one way or another.
I handicapped these college games, I liked them at the given spreads, the teaser is a bonus.
Three winning days in a row so far.
Thats the right attitude. Here is what I have been writing to players who are asking for guarantees on this new book.
Hello,
There are no guarantees. I will tell you what I told the others and the forum.
First, my advice is to avoid seeing these funds as a transfer from SBG. SBG still owes you and is not off the hook for this stiff job. BJO did not buy the accounts or work with SBG. They simply bonused accounts in the amounts SBR gave them.
Second, if you were going to play anyways, you are not any worse than being at D- SBG.
Third, there are no other options. Players who get stiffed like this with black-listed books usually cannot be helped in other ways.
My advice is… if you see your handicapping as work, continue on betting at an A+ book as if you had conceded that you were robbed by SBG. Mirror the same plays at BJO. If after the rollover you are in the plus column, you have a big chunk of free cash potentially waiting for you at BJO.
If you can come to terms with your SBG $ being gone maybe you even decide to bet larger amounts and letting loose with rolling over being the primary goal over handicaping.
BJO is doing something unheard of these days and they do want you to try their service and offer feedback. They say their goal is to get high profile players to get the full experience as well as doing something positive for the business and helping players. Time will tell.
Best of luck,
Bill
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ShamsWoof10
SBR MVP
11-15-06
4827
#56
Hey curious how's it going so far..? How's the rollover goin' and are you above or below 30K.?
Good luck dude... I want to see you get this payout...
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#57
Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
Hey curious how's it going so far..? How's the rollover goin' and are you above or below 30K.?
Good luck dude... I want to see you get this payout...
I am at $31,000 with about $3,000 pending. I have $580,000 in rollover left. LOL
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rotty508
SBR Rookie
10-21-07
10
#58
Well i dont have as much as Curious to go but here are my numbers as of the end of todays 4pm games
BJO Starting baLance $13,500
Rollover $270,000
Rollover so far $21,000 and a current balance of $17,000
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ShamsWoof10
SBR MVP
11-15-06
4827
#59
Nice job R508...
How are you doin' curious..?
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copper
SBR Hustler
10-22-07
75
#60
Rotty,
Nice going so far. Things are going well here also. Started with 8k+ at BJO. Now at 13.6K and ate 22k into my rollover. Only $143k more to go. I would like to see all of us hit this requirement and get paid.
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Jamie_UK
SBR MVP
01-12-07
1103
#61
Why dont you just dutch the results with bookmaker , the bet points would take care of some of the the vig.
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Santo
SBR MVP
09-08-05
2957
#62
Because P(BJO pay) <100%
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Jamie_UK
SBR MVP
01-12-07
1103
#63
sure, but they cant be inline all the time, I see plenty of <.5% loss between The Greek and Cris every day, and thats shows a profit with the bet points. Must be a better option than mug punting through the WR.
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ShamsWoof10
SBR MVP
11-15-06
4827
#64
Originally posted by Jamie_UK
sure, but they cant be inline all the time, I see plenty of <.5% loss between The Greek and Cris every day, and thats shows a profit with the bet points. Must be a better option than mug punting through the WR.
Hate to say it but I can't agree with "MATE" more...
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copper
SBR Hustler
10-22-07
75
#65
Well....it has been 2.5 weeks since BJO funded our accounts. Just checking with the other SBG victims to see how they are doing? I have hit 3X of my 20X rollover. I have $140.6k left. I started with $8.2k and now at $12.8k. Let me know how everyone else is doing.
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Hap
SBR High Roller
10-20-07
209
#66
Copper, et al.
My BJO account started at 4500 and is now at 5100. I have been dutching big bets against accounts at other books, as a way to accelerate my rollover. I have rollover now of over 10X.
I want to stay with BJO as long as there is a dime price to go from -2.5 to -3. Also, I can't tell whether the -103 prices are going to be put on from time to time now or not. But if they are, and if BJO pays (after rollover is met), then I would deposit more at BJO.
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Bill Dozer
www.twitter.com/BillDozer
07-12-05
10894
#67
So of all the SBG vics posting who is on pace to roll the BJO money first?
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durito
SBR Posting Legend
07-03-06
13173
#68
Originally posted by Hap
I want to stay with BJO as long as there is a dime price to go from -2.5 to -3. Also, I can't tell whether the -103 prices are going to be put on from time to time now or not. But if they are, and if BJO pays (after rollover is met), then I would deposit more at BJO.
they charge 10 cents off the 3? In the NFL? And they have -103?
Is this a deposit only book?
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copper
SBR Hustler
10-22-07
75
#69
Bill,
I have talked with 4 of the SBG victims. To me Hap seems way ahead of everyone on the rollover requirement. He is already at 10X. It will be interesting to see what happens when he gets there.
Durito,
The -103 lines were just abolut everything. I think it was a promotion though. I punched up the lines fo rthe NFL for this weekend and they are at -110. As for the deposit only, nobody knows yet. All the SBG victims are trying to find that out but we have rollover requirements to meet.
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rotty508
SBR Rookie
10-21-07
10
#70
Have any of the BJO players had problems with the website coming up. I have gotten "page cannot be displayed" several times when i tried to go there and place some action. But having it happen on a saturday morning sucks big time.