What's up with the Catholics?

[Flying Dutchman]

The excommunicate a Nun for saving a mom who couldn't survive a delivery (neither could the child), but have never excommed any of their pervert Priests.

...is it they don't like women? (either the Nun or mother)

...or are they just taking care of "da boys"??

[Chi_archie]

need a link to the story

[Andy117]

I'm very happy to say that I have nothing to do with the catholic church anymore.

[THE PROFIT]

I dont know about the 1st story. What do ya mean for saving a mom?

[stealthyburrito]

catholic church is into paternalism of the 16th century, so there ya go.

[Flying Dutchman]

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/5868564-nun-excommunicated-for-allowing-lifesaving-abortion

[jlgarciaiii22]

I'm very happy to say that I have nothing to do with the catholic church anymore.

I'm very happy to say that I have something to do with the catholic church still... To each his own

Don't agree with or deny all the problems with the priest... Let the priest have wifes, problem solved! All we'll have to deal with is adultery from then on, just like EVERY OTHER RELIGION!

[THE PROFIT]

I'm very happy to say that I have something to do with the catholic church still... To each his own

Don't agree with or deny all the problems with the priest... Let the priest have wifes, problem solved! All we'll have to deal with is adultery from then on, just like EVERY OTHER RELIGION!

thats all that needs to be done? Thats a no brainer, but this shits been going on for hundreds of years. Any affiliated with the catholic church should be ashamed to say so.

[Terrapin Station]

thats all that needs to be done? Thats a no brainer, but this shits been going on for hundreds of years. Any affiliated with the catholic church should be ashamed to say so.

agree with you on that.

[THE PROFIT]

agree with you on that.

you should agree with me on everything

[zert]

I am not ashamed of being catholic or a US citizen

[smitch124]

Give them a break, they are just getting over the fact that the Earth revolves around the Sun.

[THE PROFIT]

why the fuk would you bring US citizen into this?

[polskboy]

I am not ashamed of being catholic or polish citizen .

[pavyracer]

What are catholics? Never fukking heard of them.

[minet123]

Give them a break, they are just getting over the fact that the Earth revolves around the Sun.

[THE PROFIT]

Give them a break, they are just getting over the fact that the Earth revolves around the Sun.

some still need more convincing

[Extra Innings]

I'm very happy to say that I have something to do with the catholic church still... To each his own

Don't agree with or deny all the problems with the priest... Let the priest have wifes, problem solved! All we'll have to deal with is adultery from then on, just like EVERY OTHER RELIGION!

Abuse Figures for Catholic priest are the same for married men...child abuse/molestation is not associated with not getting laid.

[stealthyburrito]

long live the hitler youth pope

[THE PROFIT]

I didnt get laid for 3 months once, but didnt think about fukin a little boy for a second

[stealthyburrito]

Abuse Figures for Catholic priest are the same for married men...child abuse/molestation is not associated with not getting laid.

then why do so many sickos become priests?

[tropolis]

gotta play it to win it

[Extra Innings]

then why do so many sickos become priests?

Good question....from a psychological perspective....reaction formation, that is, I like underage children so I want to enter a profession to avoid those thoughts/feeling, to feel better about myself and to make people think I would never do such a thing.

In terms of the stat....I can pull it up but I know that abuse figures for clergy mirror lay populations...abuse in the church is publicized. Yes, an outrage, as these are suppose to be men of God.

[Extra Innings]

And just so you don't think I am full of shit

Newsweek: Priests Commit No More Abuse Than Other Males


NEWSWEEK:

The Catholic sex-abuse stories emerging every day suggest that Catholics have a much bigger problem with child molestation than other denominations and the general population. Many point to peculiarities of the Catholic Church (its celibacy rules for priests, its insular hierarchy, its exclusion of women) to infer that there’s something particularly pernicious about Catholic clerics that predisposes them to these horrific acts. It’s no wonder that, back in 2002—when the last Catholic sex-abuse scandal was making headlines—a Wall Street Journal-NBC News poll found that 64 percent of those queried thought Catholic priests “frequently” abused children.

Yet experts say there’s simply no data to support the claim at all. No formal comparative study has ever broken down child sexual abuse by denomination, and only the Catholic Church has released detailed data about its own. But based on the surveys and studies conducted by different denominations over the past 30 years, experts who study child abuse say they see little reason to conclude that sexual abuse is mostly a Catholic issue. “We don’t see the Catholic Church as a hotbed of this or a place that has a bigger problem than anyone else,” said Ernie Allen, president of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. “I can tell you without hesitation that we have seen cases in many religious settings, from traveling evangelists to mainstream ministers to rabbis and others.”

Since the mid-1980s, insurance companies have offered sexual misconduct coverage as a rider on liability insurance, and their own studies indicate that Catholic churches are not higher risk than other congregations. Insurance companies that cover all denominations, such as Guide One Center for Risk Management, which has more than 40,000 church clients, does not charge Catholic churches higher premiums. “We don’t see vast difference in the incidence rate between one denomination and another,” says Sarah Buckley, assistant vice president of corporate communications. “It’s pretty even across the denominations.” It’s been that way for decades. While the company saw an uptick in these claims by all types of churches around the time of the 2002 U.S. Catholic sex-abuse scandal, Eric Spacick, Guide One’s senior church-risk manager, says “it’s been pretty steady since.” On average, the company says 80 percent of the sexual misconduct claims they get from all denominations involve sexual abuse of children. As a result, the more children’s programs a church has, the more expensive its insurance, officials at Guide One said.

The only hard data that has been made public by any denomination comes from John Jay College’s study of Catholic priests, which was authorized and is being paid for by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops following the public outcry over the 2002 scandals. Limiting their study to plausible accusations made between 1950 and 1992, John Jay researchers reported that about 4 percent of the 110,000 priests active during those years had been accused of sexual misconduct involving children. Specifically, 4,392 complaints (ranging from “sexual talk” to rape) were made against priests by 10,667 victims. (Reports made after 2002, including those of incidents that occurred years earlier, are released as part of the church’s annual audits.)

Experts disagree on the rate of sexual abuse among the general American male population, but Allen says a conservative estimate is one in 10. Margaret Leland Smith, a researcher at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, says her review of the numbers indicates it’s closer to one in 5. But in either case, the rate of abuse by Catholic priests is not higher than these national estimates. The public also doesn’t realize how “profoundly prevalent” child sexual abuse is, adds Smith. Even those numbers may be low; research suggests that only a third of abuse cases are ever reported (making it the most underreported crime). “However you slice it, it’s a very common experience,” Smith says.

Most child abusers have one thing in common, and it’s not piety—it’s preexisting relationships with their victims. That includes priests and ministers and rabbis, of course, but also family members, friends, neighbors, teachers, coaches, scout leaders, youth-group volunteers, and doctors. According to federal studies, three quarters of abuse occurs at the hands of family members or others in the victim’s “circle of trust.” “The fundamental premise here is that those who abuse children overwhelmingly seek out situations where they have easy and legitimate access to children,” he said. “These kinds of positions offer a kind of cover for these offenders.”

Priests may also appear more likely to molest children because cases of abuse come to light in huge waves. One reason is delayed reporting: less than 13 percent of victims abused between 1960 and 1980, for example, lodged a complaint in the same year as the assault. Two thirds filed their complaints after 1992, and half of those were made between 2002 and 2003 alone. “Offenders tend to be manipulative, often persuading children to believe that this is their fault,” said Allen. “As a result, the children tend to keep it to themselves. There are countless victims who thought they were the only one.” So what looks like high concentrations of abuse may simply reflect long and diffuse patterns of abuse that mirror those among all males.

Another reason is that the church has historically been bad at punishing (or preventing) molesters, so that many cases might come to light when just one priest is finally exposed. A single predator priest with ongoing access to children might be responsible for an immense raft of abuse cases. (Marie Fortune of the Faith Trust Institute, which focuses on clerical-abuse issues, says Roman Catholics tend “to have many more schools and other programs that involve children.” “Plenty of other congregations have these problems, for instance, if they have a youth ministry.”) That helps explain the 200 children who were abused at a school for the deaf. It didn’t happen because the school was full of rapists; it happened because one man was never stopped. Overall, the John Jay study found that 149 priests were responsible for more than 25,000 cases of abuse over the 52-year period studied.

Allen suggests a final reason we hear so much more about Catholic abuse than transgressions in other religions: its sheer size. It’s the second largest single denomination in the world (behind Islam) and the biggest in the United States. (Fifty-one percent of all American adults are Protestant, but they belong to hundreds of different denominations.) “When you consider the per capita data,” says Allen, “I don’t think they have a larger incidence than other faiths.”

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[THE PROFIT]

where the fuk else can you not be with women & it look normal when you're a homo and be around little boys all the time and it look normal when you're a sicko fuk? And hide it all in the name of the father, the son, & the holymuthafukinass ghost

[DrStale]

Give them a break, they are just getting over the fact that the Earth revolves around the Sun.

Them's stake-burning words.

Get 'em!

[THE PROFIT]

Maybe, but parents don't take their children to the crack alley NOT expecting them to get fuked in brownround

[Chi_archie]

good staff EI

[JohnGalt2341]

I didnt get laid for 3 months once, but didnt think about fukin a little boy for a second

Yeah, but what about if you went an entire lifetime without getting laid?

[Extra Innings]

Yeah, but what about if you went an entire lifetime without getting laid?

They still spank their monkeys

[Brock Landers]

life long catholic here...no problems for me and the church

[JohnGalt2341]

For those of you who don't know much about the Catholic Church, here is an Educational Video: THIS IS A MUST SEE FOR EVERYONE!

[THE PROFIT]

Yeah, but what about if you went an entire lifetime without getting laid?

Thats just stupid. People that devote their lives to religion is stupid, but this goes above & beyond. It shows you that you are dealing with unstable fukin people here. Their already off balance, so dont get surprised when they stick a finger in Billys ass. Would you drop your kid off at the psych ward to spend the day with the hospitable inhabitants?

[stealthyburrito]

They still spank their monkeys

no that's against their celibacy oath as well.

[Extra Innings]

no that's against their celibacy oath as well.

They probably have dreams about bagging nuns as well....

I'm sure they do a lot of things against their oath...