A scalp at the same book on a futures bet. Will the bet stand?

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  • shari91
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 02-23-10
    • 32661

    #1
    A scalp at the same book on a futures bet. Will the bet stand?
    Before I get all my friends to dump money on this one, can someone tell me if this is normal?

    Lebron to stay at the Cavs +200
    He'll play at any other team +265

    And then there are various other teams listed with higher lines.

    I understand you have to wait until the official announcement to get paid so maybe the line's okay since they'll have your money for awhile. But I don't normally pay too much attention to these kind of futures bets and don't want my friends to go through the hassle of signing up and then having to provide withdrawal docs for no profit.
  • minet123
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-17-07
    • 10280

    #2
    who knows in highly regulated Aussie books
    Have some Vegemite and a schooner and read through terms
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    • shari91
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 02-23-10
      • 32661

      #3
      Originally posted by minet123
      who knows in highly regulated Aussie books Have some Vegemite and a schooner and read through terms
      Screw you with that Vegemite slop.

      You're a scalping machine. Is it normal for these wacky futures to have these lines? Normally I stick to series bets.
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      • Extra Innings
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        • 02-26-10
        • 15058

        #4
        yes
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        • Domestic
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          • 02-10-09
          • 6323

          #5
          Shari the "Any other team" refers to any team that is NOT listed on that page, I think it is too risky and cannot be considered a decent scalp. Unless I am missing something.
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          • minet123
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-17-07
            • 10280

            #6
            I would never scalp at the same book
            Never Never Never
            Scalp across book YES no problem
            It's just part of the Good Degenerate rule and the Gambling gods frown upon you when you break the Unwritten or written rules
            Look at JJ's recent run...I warned him
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            • shari91
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              • 02-23-10
              • 32661

              #7
              Originally posted by Domestic
              Shari the "Any other team" refers to any team that is NOT listed on that page, I think it is too risky and cannot be considered a decent scalp. Unless I am missing something.
              I confirmed with them: It's any NBA team other than the Cavs.
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              • shari91
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                • 02-23-10
                • 32661

                #8
                Originally posted by minet123
                I would never scalp at the same book Never Never Never Scalp across book YES no problem It's just part of the Good Degenerate rule and the Gambling gods frown upon you when you break the Unwritten or written rules Look at JJ's recent run...I warned him
                Why didn't you say that before I made MY bets?
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                • Domestic
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                  • 02-10-09
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by shari91
                  I confirmed with them: It's any NBA team other than the Cavs.
                  Wow, really I just spoke to a guy using the Live chat that said otherwise.
                  Probably worth triple checking.
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                  • minet123
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-17-07
                    • 10280

                    #10
                    Originally posted by shari91
                    Why didn't you say that before I made MY bets?
                    Plus I agree with domestic I don't think that's a true scalp
                    I would get an email saying what they told you on the phone
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                    • Extra Innings
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-26-10
                      • 15058

                      #11
                      I stand corrected...I was thinking covering position. (i.e at one time Lebron was -125 to go back to the cavs and it recently moved) with a position on any other team
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                      • shari91
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                        • 02-23-10
                        • 32661

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Domestic
                        Wow, really I just spoke to a guy using the Live chat that said otherwise. Probably worth triple checking.
                        FUKKKKK. I'm going to call them right now again and tell them to put it in writing. I fukking hate this book I swear.
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                        • Holtgetsback
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-04-10
                          • 4655

                          #13
                          Originally posted by shari91
                          FUKKKKK. I'm going to call them right now again and tell them to put it in writing. I fukking hate this book I swear.
                          doubt they will be happy to see you are taking advantage of them
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                          • sharpcat
                            Restricted User
                            • 12-19-09
                            • 4516

                            #14
                            Any time a book offers you 2 "+" lines simultaneously without the wager having a third option whereas you lose both bets it is a bad line and 1 side of the wager will likely be cancelled and you may no longer be welcome to play at this book if you arb this.

                            More importantly you need to take into consideration the amount of time these funds will be tied up for and whether it is worth it to risk an arb that is likely to be canceled or has a possible lose both bets scenario or should you simply put those funds in a savings account.

                            Even if you meant to state that the line was -200/+265 this is still a bad line without a third option.
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                            • shari91
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                              • 02-23-10
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                              #15
                              It's all good. They cancelled both of my bets since the person on the phone gave me the wrong information. See what happens when I try to scalp? Never again.
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                              • minet123
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-17-07
                                • 10280

                                #16
                                Originally posted by shari91
                                FUKKKKK. I'm going to call them right now again and tell them to put it in writing. I fukking hate this book I swear.
                                Why don't you have an account here

                                Go there
                                sign up
                                send money
                                or else
                                Vegemite everyday for a month
                                plus I will fly JJ to Melbourne to spoon feed it to you
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                                • shari91
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                                  • 02-23-10
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by sharpcat
                                  Any time a book offers you 2 "+" lines simultaneously without the wager having a third option whereas you lose both bets it is a bad line and 1 side of the wager will likely be cancelled and you may no longer be welcome to play at this book if you arb this.

                                  More importantly you need to take into consideration the amount of time these funds will be tied up for and whether it is worth it to risk an arb that is likely to be canceled or has a possible lose both bets scenario or simply put those funds in a savings account.

                                  Even if you meant to state that the line was -200/+265 this is still a bad line without a third option.
                                  These lines were part of a larger futures line. But these were the two smallest and the only ones I was concerned with so I only listed them in this thread. Listed them all in another thread somewhere.

                                  The money being held for so long didn't bother me at all but thankfully they've been cancelled and I've learned my lesson. Strictly regular betting for me.
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                                  • Holtgetsback
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-04-10
                                    • 4655

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by minet123
                                    Why don't you have an account here

                                    Go there
                                    sign up
                                    send money
                                    or else
                                    Vegemite everyday for a month
                                    plus I will fly JJ to Melbourne to spoon feed it to you
                                    no us customers allowed
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                                    • shari91
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 02-23-10
                                      • 32661

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by minet123
                                      Why don't you have an account here www.pinnaclesports.com Go there sign up send money or else Vegemite everyday for a month plus I will fly JJ to Melbourne to spoon feed it to you
                                      Their page is already open on my browser from the other night when someone else told me to sign up with them. Had to wait until 6hrs before tip-off for a 1H total line. Ended up pulling a damn all-nighter because I wanted to make a big bet. Thankfully it won!

                                      Going to check out their funding options now.
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                                      • shari91
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                                        • 02-23-10
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Holtgetsback
                                        no us customers allowed
                                        I'm in Australia Mr Giggles.
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                                        • minet123
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                                          • 02-17-07
                                          • 10280

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by shari91
                                          Their page is already open on my browser from the other night when someone else told me to sign up with them. Had to wait until 6hrs before tip-off for a 1H total line. Ended up pulling a damn all-nighter because I wanted to make a big bet. Thankfully it won!

                                          Going to check out their funding options now.
                                          You will have no problems
                                          if you do just send an email to Mrs Isabella...she is one of the big muckity mucks in the payment/deposit dept
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                                          • shari91
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                                            • 02-23-10
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by minet123
                                            You will have no problems if you do just send an email to Mrs Isabella...she is one of the big muckity mucks in the payment/deposit dept
                                            Thanks so much! I'm getting the hell away from this crappy book now. Friggin useless people, useless lines, useless everything. The only thing it's good for is next day deposit into my bank account and I don't even need the cash that bad. Fvkk em.
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                                            • Domestic
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                                              • 02-10-09
                                              • 6323

                                              #23
                                              Don't worry Shari, not like you lost anything but I agree, Sportingbet Customer Service is pretty terrible. Half the time I talk to them in Live chat they give me vague answers and when I used to inform them of bad lines or typos they would give me a free bet here and there, they never do now.
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                                              • Domestic
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                                                • 02-10-09
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                                                #24
                                                P.S. You don't use Centrebet Shari?
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                                                • shari91
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 02-23-10
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Domestic
                                                  Don't worry Shari, not like you lost anything but I agree, Sportingbet Customer Service is pretty terrible. Half the time I talk to them in Live chat they give me vague answers and when I used to inform them of bad lines or typos they would give me a free bet here and there, they never do now.
                                                  They're shocking! Absolutely can't stand them. And then they gave me the runaround the other night/morning here telling me that they'll do me a favour and TELL me the line early since I'm a 'Premium Player' which I by no means am. Think they just got scared by my going off at them considering I hadn't slept. And even still, I had to wait until 6am to place the damn bet anyway.

                                                  I do have CentreBet but haven't really been using them much at all. Was going to last night during the Collingwood match but ended up falling asleep. Also with sportsbet as well but for some reason I always just use sportingbet as my main book. NO MORE.
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                                                  • Domestic
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                                                    • 02-10-09
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                                                    #26
                                                    Haha, Premium Player!
                                                    Shari confirmed for high roller!
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                                                    • shari91
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 02-23-10
                                                      • 32661

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Domestic
                                                      Haha, Premium Player! Shari confirmed for high roller!
                                                      Hell no. I told the girl on the phone that if I'm what they consider a premium player she may want to start looking for a new job because not only is the company in trouble but she's obviously working for yo-yo's.
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                                                      • paco
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 05-07-09
                                                        • 62873

                                                        #28
                                                        I'm surprised fishhead hasn't commented on this thread. I think he has an advanced knowledge on scalps. I, on the other hand, never play these types of props/futures.
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                                                        • shari91
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                                                          • 02-23-10
                                                          • 32661

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by paco
                                                          I'm surprised fishhead hasn't commented on this thread. I think he has an advanced knowledge on scalps. I, on the other hand, never play these types of props/futures.
                                                          Well it turns out it was a dud. The person on the phone gave me the wrong info but thankfully they've cancelled my bets when I double checked with someone else. Would've been in big trouble if not.
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