This may be one on Lenny's other sites....be careful
betsportsinc.com warning (SBR added: This is apparently a Cascade scambook)
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JELLYBEANSBR Sharp
- 01-14-07
- 303
#1betsportsinc.com warning (SBR added: This is apparently a Cascade scambook)
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An0nym0usSBR Rookie
- 09-11-07
- 17
#2Certainly looks suspicious, 1 year domain registration and www...betsportsinc...com resolves to the same IP address as www...betcascade...com (216.194.163.38)
Registrar: DOTSTER
Domain Name: BETSPORTSINC.COM
Created on: 10-MAY-07
Expires on: 10-MAY-08
Last Updated on: 27-SEP-07Comment -
Bill Dozerwww.twitter.com/BillDozer
- 07-12-05
- 10894
#3Originally posted by JELLYBEANThis may be one on Lenny's other sites....be carefulComment -
SBR_JohnSBR Posting Legend
- 07-12-05
- 16471
#4Great job Jellybean and An0nym0us !!!
Jellybean I moved this thread to the Players Talk Forum for greater exposure. Thanks for the post!Comment -
bigboydanSBR Aristocracy
- 08-10-05
- 55420
#5Great catch indeed guys
Hey John, Should we make this a sticky thread for a few days?Comment -
BIGDAWG333SBR Rookie
- 10-26-07
- 3
#7Originally posted by An0nym0usCertainly looks suspicious, 1 year domain registration and www...betsportsinc...com resolves to the same IP address as www...betcascade...com (216.194.163.38)
Registrar: DOTSTER
Domain Name: BETSPORTSINC.COM
Created on: 10-MAY-07
Expires on: 10-MAY-08
Last Updated on: 27-SEP-07
To whom it may concern:
I've known Jason (owner of BETSPORTSINC) 7-yrs played with him last 2 yrs & can Assure you Zero Affiliation with Benny OR LENNY from Cascade Sports INC Jason is "Gringo" & very very Honest
Great Kid . . .NOT Looking to **** anyoneComment -
StumpageSBR MVP
- 09-21-05
- 2906
#8Well hey, that's good enough for me Bigdawg.....Time to deposit thousand$$$ and let the good times roll. Golly gee, maybe I'm even heading to the Super Bowl. I can't wait!.....Comment -
louisSBR Wise Guy
- 09-23-06
- 763
#9Probability of association with Cascade: 100%
Bigdawg333, welcome to SBR.
I hope your post is just a joke.
The IP address of your gringo friend's book matches the IP address of Cascade exactly.
This means there is a 100% probability the two are related.
Thank you Jellybean, Anonymous, and Bill for this warning.Comment -
Dark HorseSBR Posting Legend
- 12-14-05
- 13764
#10On a sidenote, where is Bigdawg broadcasting from? Took him 42 minutes to respond (with bogus story) to posted web address, and that was his first post.Comment -
louisSBR Wise Guy
- 09-23-06
- 763
#11He seems to be posting from Costa Rica
This is a native Costa Rican, or someone who has been there for a long time, using words like "gringo", common slang in Costa Rica, that we don't often use in our forums or everyday speach. He doesn't understand IP addresses, just wants to assure us that his friend is an American and not a Costa Rican so we should not worry about him (the owner/manager of Cascade's latest sportsbook). On the other hand, this could be a joke from someone I can't believe this is how they tell us their book is ok.Comment -
BIGDAWG333SBR Rookie
- 10-26-07
- 3
#12BSI / Is NOT Tied to Lenny/Benny
Originally posted by An0nym0usCertainly looks suspicious, 1 year domain registration and www...betsportsinc...com resolves to the same IP address as www...betcascade...com (216.194.163.38)
Registrar: DOTSTER
Domain Name: BETSPORTSINC.COM
Created on: 10-MAY-07
Expires on: 10-MAY-08
Last Updated on: 27-SEP-07Comment -
JELLYBEANSBR Sharp
- 01-14-07
- 303
#13Your hurting yourself more than your helping..stop posting.
Here is another one for you guys to watch out for:
bigworldcasino.com(may or may not be affilated,but same software)Comment -
philswinSBR MVP
- 04-18-07
- 1279
#14Amazing
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SBR_JohnSBR Posting Legend
- 07-12-05
- 16471
#15Players are able to login to both betsports inc and bigworldcasino with their cascade password and ID and it displays their cascade outstanding balance.
So cascade can start new books but cant afford to make even a small payment to those they owe???..... More than a scam, more than just scum.Comment -
JCSBR Sharp
- 08-23-05
- 481
#16Originally posted by BIGDAWG333I can 100% assure you BSI / BetSportsInc is NOT Tied to Lenny/Benny we've had many calls asking for him & Perhaps we share same Internet chat software as do many sites OUR customer service line is ### ### #### ask for Axxxx or Mxxxxxx & be more than Happy to re-assure you ZERO Ties to the names mentioned above .............
How can you explain a common IP, common passwords, and the Cascade balances coming up?Comment -
cloudaghSBR Sharp
- 04-08-07
- 486
#17I just love the cashier section - credit card deposit form, and not a word about how to withdrawal. That makes it my first choice when I need a new sportsbook! Talk about convenient, I don't even have to go to the bathroom to flush my money down the toilet, I can do it from the comfort of my computer chair.Comment -
SBR_JohnSBR Posting Legend
- 07-12-05
- 16471
#18Originally posted by cloudaghI just love the cashier section - credit card deposit form, and not a word about how to withdrawal. That makes it my first choice when I need a new sportsbook! Talk about convenient, I don't even have to go to the bathroom to flush my money down the toilet, I can do it from the comfort of my computer chair.Comment -
StumpageSBR MVP
- 09-21-05
- 2906
#19You would have thought that "Bigdawg" might have gone about this a bit more intelligently, maybe thought it out a bit more before making that crucial first post....But hey, what do I know. 1st one to sign up gets to go to the SuperBowl.....Comment -
OSUCOWBOYSSBR High Roller
- 10-26-07
- 241
#20Originally posted by JELLYBEANThis may be one on Lenny's other sites....be careful
1.) Jason and Betsportsinc.com are using the same software as Cascade.
2.) Jason and Betsportsinc.com are not in the same office.
(Lenny is in Rahomosuri and Jason's office is in Sabana)
3.) Jason and Betsportsinc.com are not in the same financial peril as Lenny and Cascade.
4.) Jason and Betsportsinc.com do not have the same BANKROLL as Cascade and have NO financial ties whatsoever.
5.) Jason and Betsportsinc.com are a new book recently started by a gringo that had a large store and had a huge " sheet" with a VERY REPUTABLE book in CR.
6.) Jason started Betsportsinc.com because he got sick of paying a percentage each week when he could have all the money (and headaches) for himself for a relatively small (125K) start up cost.
7.) He has been in the business for 20 years and has never stiffed a soul. (Including me and I have had a figure as large as 30K with him over the last 15 years)
What ever happened to giving people a chance?? Has anyone heard anything negative from a customer?? I say fire away if you get an UNRESOLVED complaint. Til then what has he done to deserve the bashing he is getting?
Travis
Same screen name @ Madjacks, Therx, and EOG.Comment -
paul MordeebSBR High Roller
- 05-12-07
- 220
#21Did you not read that the cascade info works on the site?Comment -
IwinyourmoneySBR Posting Legend
- 04-18-07
- 18368
#22Wow with this motto Im going to play right now!!!!! What a joke..
FEATURED SPORTSBOOK FOR OCTOBER
Category: Sports
FEATURE SPORTSBOOK FOR OCTOBER 2007
WWW...BETSPORTSINC...COM
### ### ####
Motto = THEY CAN'T PAY YOU FAST ENOUGH
Solid operation / check them out 9 of 10 Star(s) . . . . .Comment -
paul MordeebSBR High Roller
- 05-12-07
- 220
#23What site gave them 9 out of 10 stars?Comment -
katstaleSBR MVP
- 02-07-07
- 3924
#24I have said it before and I'll say it again. You really can't make this stuff up. It is unbelievable. Bill and John--you guys have to keep this stuff front page to keep blind guys from falling down the open manhole.Comment -
louisSBR Wise Guy
- 09-23-06
- 763
#25question for OSUCOWBOY
Why is it when I log into the site (the one owned by Jason in Sabana) using my Cascade userid and password, I get my balance at Cascade (owned by Lenny in Rohmoser)? Could this be why people are calling all the time asking for Lenny?Comment -
StumpageSBR MVP
- 09-21-05
- 2906
#26Originally posted by katstaleI have said it before and I'll say it again. You really can't make this stuff up.Comment -
JELLYBEANSBR Sharp
- 01-14-07
- 303
#27Originally posted by OSUCOWBOYSHere are some facts:
1.) Jason and Betsportsinc.com are using the same software as Cascade.
2.) Jason and Betsportsinc.com are not in the same office.
(Lenny is in Rahomosuri and Jason's office is in Sabana)
3.) Jason and Betsportsinc.com are not in the same financial peril as Lenny and Cascade.
4.) Jason and Betsportsinc.com do not have the same BANKROLL as Cascade and have NO financial ties whatsoever.
5.) Jason and Betsportsinc.com are a new book recently started by a gringo that had a large store and had a huge " sheet" with a VERY REPUTABLE book in CR.
6.) Jason started Betsportsinc.com because he got sick of paying a percentage each week when he could have all the money (and headaches) for himself for a relatively small (125K) start up cost.
7.) He has been in the business for 20 years and has never stiffed a soul. (Including me and I have had a figure as large as 30K with him over the last 15 years)
What ever happened to giving people a chance?? Has anyone heard anything negative from a customer?? I say fire away if you get an UNRESOLVED complaint. Til then what has he done to deserve the bashing he is getting?
Travis
Same screen name @ Madjacks, Therx, and EOG.
If this guy spent 125k to start up he ain't that smart. He could of just taken his players to any PPh shop and paid ZERO to start up except the PPh cost * number of players he had. Plus alot of guys use the SAME SOFTWARE..but unless they share office space YOU cannot log in. DGS is used by CRIS and BETEAGLE for EXAMPLE...but you can use your cris account to log into beteagle....Yoiu can't make this shit up LOLComment -
OSUCOWBOYSSBR High Roller
- 10-26-07
- 241
#28Originally posted by StumpageI couldn't agree more...This is an absolute classic. I'm just counting down the minutes until yet another first-time poster chimes in, chastising the masses for not "giving us a chance". Tears at the ol' heartstrings, that argument does. Nevermind the facts; Maybe they really are just good people afterall (Sniff).....
Lets try this. Why dont we each post up 10K with The Shrink at EOG.com. Then we can take a plane to Costa Rica, go to both offices, and if you find ANY affliation, other than software, you get the 20K. This includes ANY person who says the two SEPERATE sites are affliated with each other in ANYWAY when it comes to money and payouts. If their offices are not EXACTLY where I said they are then you get the cash. If you find ONE person who has not been paid by Jason and his group, ever, then you get the money. I am giving you you the nuts. You want to give it a whirl?
TravisComment -
20Four7SBR Hall of Famer
- 04-08-07
- 6703
#29Originally posted by OSUCOWBOYSLets try this. Why dont we each post up 10K with The Shrink at EOG.com. Then we can take a plane to Costa Rica, go to both offices, and if you find ANY affliation, other than software, you get the 20K. This includes ANY person who says the two SEPERATE sites are affliated with each other in ANYWAY when it comes to money and payouts. If their offices are not EXACTLY where I said they are then you get the cash. If you find ONE person who has not been paid by Jason and his group, ever, then you get the money. I am giving you you the nuts. You want to give it a whirl?
Travis
You don't need to go to costa rica. IP's are the same. Cascade user ID and password work. Cascade balance comes up. Seems good enough for me. I don't care if one office is in costa rica and the other in el salvador. You won't find anyone here not being paid because no one here is playing. For those of you who are owed by cascade, why not go here and see if you can withdraw.Comment -
paul MordeebSBR High Roller
- 05-12-07
- 220
#30osucowboy,
" Players are able to login to both betsports inc and bigworldcasino with their cascade password and ID and it displays their cascade outstanding balance. "
Dude, this is unexplainable. Must have ties to cascade for this to happen. Even if you happen to use the same software, how can a cascade Balance come up???????Comment -
JELLYBEANSBR Sharp
- 01-14-07
- 303
#31Originally posted by OSUCOWBOYSLets try this. Why dont we each post up 10K with The Shrink at EOG.com. Then we can take a plane to Costa Rica, go to both offices, and if you find ANY affliation, other than software, you get the 20K. This includes ANY person who says the two SEPERATE sites are affliated with each other in ANYWAY when it comes to money and payouts. If their offices are not EXACTLY where I said they are then you get the cash. If you find ONE person who has not been paid by Jason and his group, ever, then you get the money. I am giving you you the nuts. You want to give it a whirl?
TravisComment -
katstaleSBR MVP
- 02-07-07
- 3924
#32OSU?? I am beginning to believe ya! Please be a little more specific abt the location of the Cascade office before I jump on a plane. But, with a few more specifics--I will be on your side.Comment -
OSUCOWBOYSSBR High Roller
- 10-26-07
- 241
#33Originally posted by JELLYBEANHey buddy..your digging a hole...tell your buddy jason to find a new home...and have you stop posting on his behalf
Again, find me one person who has been stiffed. Just one.
No need to be so hard on a place that you know nothing about. Have you tried it? You obviously arent one of his clients that get paid every time in a timely manner.
Good luck bashing this place. You will be eating your words in just a matter of time. After people from all around are getting paid in a timely manner (like they should), this store will be a TOP store to be with. All it takes in this business to be succesful is a wide variety of wagering options and to pay players as fast as lightning. This place will show they can and will do this. He doesnt have a base of 250 clients he has acquired over the last 20 years because he is a stiff.
Time will tell.
TravisComment -
paul MordeebSBR High Roller
- 05-12-07
- 220
#34osucowboy,
" Players are able to login to both betsports inc and bigworldcasino with their cascade password and ID and it displays their cascade outstanding balance. "
Dude, this is unexplainable. Must have ties to cascade for this to happen. Even if you happen to use the same software, how can a cascade Balance come up???????Comment -
JELLYBEANSBR Sharp
- 01-14-07
- 303
#35Originally posted by OSUCOWBOYSAgain, find me one person who has been stiffed. Just one.
No need to be so hard on a place that you know nothing about. Have you tried it? You obviously arent one of his clients that get paid every time in a timely manner.
Good luck bashing this place. You will be eating your words in just a matter of time. After people from all around are getting paid in a timely manner (like they should), this store will be a TOP store to be with. All it takes in this business to be succesful is a wide variety of wagering options and to pay players as fast as lightning. This place will show they can and will do this. He doesnt have a base of 250 clients he has acquired over the last 20 years because he is a stiff.
Time will tell.
Travis
You just don't get it. GUILT BY ASSOCIATION....JAsonmay be good(who knows) but as long as he shares the office with a STIFF......tell him to move....or start paying out some of cascades players(this will make him a hero and gain him respect) ...you have alot to learn my friendComment
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