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  • thomorino
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    • 06-01-17
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    #246
    Originally posted by stevenash
    Can't wona?
    Embiid is a once in a generation player, Jokic isn't even a first option on a championship team. The reason Denver got to a conference championship game was Murray was their top scorer, not Jokic. Just stop.
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    • chargers4222
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      • 01-16-10
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      #247
      Couldn't stay away if he tried. If you guys have the means, please donate to your local charity for mental illness in the community.
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      • thomorino
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        #248
        Originally posted by chargers4222
        Couldn't stay away if he tried. If you guys have the means, please donate to your local charity for mental illness in the community.
        Mental illness would be coming into someone's threads every day, and reading and typing responses to them, even though you don't like them., which is what you do everyday.

        You are broke and mentally ill.
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        • thomorino
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          #249
          Originally posted by chargers4222
          Anyone else notice how pleasant this forum has seemed for the past few days? It's hard to explain but it's almost as if we've been magically cured of a mental illness if that makes sense. Not sure why, can't put my finger on it.
          You are the mentally ill child who feels the need to click on every thread I have, read it, and respond to it, even though you don't like me. You are addicted to reading and posting to me.
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          • Bostongambler
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            • 02-01-08
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            #250
            Naw Thermaflu, we took a vote while you were serving your timeout. It was overwhelmingly in the positive that you are mentally disturbed.


            Thank you. Good luck with your future wagers.
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            • thomorino
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              #251
              Originally posted by Bostongambler
              Naw Thermaflu, we took a vote while you were serving your timeout. It was overwhelmingly in the positive that you are mentally disturbed.


              Thank you. Good luck with your future wagers.
              You are the one in my threads every week, you are mentally ill. You need me, I don't need anything to do with you.
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              • Bostongambler
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                • 02-01-08
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                #252
                Originally posted by thomorino
                You are the one in my threads every week, you are mentally ill. You need me, I don't need anything to do with you.
                I’m sorry Thermie, but the jury rendered their verdict. Good luck on appeal.
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                • thomorino
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                  #253
                  Originally posted by Bostongambler
                  I’m sorry Thermie, but the jury rendered their verdict. Good luck on appeal.
                  Wrong, you are addicted to posting to and about me, I own you, you are mentally ill.
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                  • Bostongambler
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                    • 02-01-08
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                    #254
                    Originally posted by thomorino
                    Wrong, you are addicted to posting to and about me, I own you, you are mentally ill.
                    Is this your closing argument?
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                    • thomorino
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                      #255
                      Originally posted by Bostongambler
                      Is this your closing argument?
                      Shut up
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                      • thomorino
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                        • 06-01-17
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                        #256
                        The Harden trade is interesting but I don't see Embiid slowing down much before the playoffs, Harden isn't in great shape or fully healthy yet
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                        • thomorino
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                          #257
                          Embiid is the clear MVP, given injury risk and the prices I have I am putting a small hedge in on Jokic at +350. Jokic's only chance is injury, but obviously that could happen.

                          Jokic to win the MVP +350

                          Risking 20 units to win 70
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                          • jjgold
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                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #258
                            Joker always a good choice

                            Believe it or not but been injured a lot James dominates every game he plays

                            Morant killing it too
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                            • thomorino
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                              #259
                              Jokic isn't playing th second night of back to backs, embiid has been doing that fairly frequently
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                              • thomorino
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                                #260
                                Embiid completely dominates Giannis, he's not only the MVP, he's th best player in the league, and it's not that close.
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                                • Buckandadime
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 04-21-15
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                                  #261
                                  Originally posted by thomorino
                                  Embiid is a once in a generation player, Jokic isn't even a first option on a championship team. The reason Denver got to a conference championship game was Murray was their top scorer, not Jokic. Just stop.
                                  Originally posted by thomorino
                                  Embiid is the clear MVP, given injury risk and the prices I have I am putting a small hedge in on Jokic at +350. Jokic's only chance is injury, but obviously that could happen.

                                  Jokic to win the MVP +350

                                  Risking 20 units to win 70
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                                  • thomorino
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                                    #262
                                    Originally posted by Buckandadime
                                    It's an injury hedge as I explained explained. You are dumb.
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                                    • Buckandadime
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                                      • 04-21-15
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                                      #263
                                      Originally posted by thomorino
                                      It's an injury hedge as I explained explained. You are dumb.
                                      Seems you would have chose someone better someone better than Jokic since you've done nothing but bad mouth the guy the guy..
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                                      • jjgold
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                                        • 07-20-05
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                                        #264
                                        Jokic unreal

                                        Embid unreal
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                                        • stevenash
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                                          • 01-17-11
                                          • 65499

                                          #265
                                          Originally posted by thomorino
                                          Jokic isn't playing th second night of back to backs, embiid has been doing that fairly frequently
                                          And here we have yet another Morino lie exposed.

                                          In almost 50 games Denver has played so far, Jokic has had one DNP coaches decision on the back end of a back to back.
                                          Just one.

                                          All you do is lie to support your argument.
                                          You make up shit, because you're a pathological liar, you can't help yourself.
                                          It's unethical too, look up the word ethics, it means rules of conduct, you're unethical.

                                          Bridgewater did not win ten in a row.
                                          That got exposed as a fraudulent lie.

                                          Giannis does not have enough games played or minutes played to be considered an MVP.
                                          That got exposed in like record setting time as a fradulant lie.

                                          Here's the latest fraudulent lie.
                                          They just keep on coming.

                                          Here's Jokic's game log.
                                          Find me the second time he sat on the back end of a back to back.
                                          Win valuable prizes.

                                          Get Nikola Jokić's 2021-22 game by game stats along with wins and losses stats on Basketball-Reference.com


                                          He missed a four game block in the beginning of the season.
                                          Not applicable to the debate, and besides Embid missed more

                                          Stop your lying.
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                                          • Buckandadime
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                                            • 04-21-15
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                                            #266
                                            Originally posted by thomorino
                                            Jokic isn't playing th second night of back to backs, embiid has been doing that fairly frequently

                                            This year alone Jokic has played in 52/58 games 89%..
                                            Embiid has played in 46/58 79%..
                                            Since their careers started, Jokic has played in 505/530 games 95%..
                                            Embiid has played in 306/448 games 68%.
                                            Throw out the first year for Embiid where he.played only 33 games and its still only 273/366 games 74%..
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                                            • stevenash
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                                              • 01-17-11
                                              • 65499

                                              #267
                                              Originally posted by Buckandadime
                                              This year alone Jokic has played in 52/58 games 89%..
                                              Embiid has played in 46/58 79%..
                                              Since their careers started, Jokic has played in 505/530 games 95%..
                                              Embiid has played in 306/448 games 68%.
                                              Throw out the first year for Embiid where he.played only 33 games and its still only 273/366 games 74%..
                                              My point exactly.
                                              You can't bullshit a fact checking researcher, and I can fact check anything, at anytime, in a New York minute.
                                              When is the OP going to ever get that.
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                                              • stevenash
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                                                • 01-17-11
                                                • 65499

                                                #268
                                                Originally posted by Buckandadime
                                                This year alone Jokic has played in 52/58 games 89%..<br>
                                                Embiid has played in 46/58 79%..<br>
                                                Since their careers started, Jokic has played in 505/530 games 95%..<br>
                                                Embiid has played in 306/448 games 68%.<br>
                                                Throw out the first year for Embiid where he.played only 33 games and its still only 273/366 games 74%..
                                                <br>
                                                *never mind, it's been said to death already*
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                                                • Buckandadime
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                                                  • 04-21-15
                                                  • 8847

                                                  #269
                                                  Originally posted by stevenash
                                                  My point exactly.
                                                  You can't bullshit a fact checking researcher, and I can fact check anything, at anytime, in a New York minute.
                                                  When is the OP going to ever get that.
                                                  Yep..
                                                  He just wants to argue and then come back with the exact same point you made all the while calling you names..


                                                  Embiid is a part time player..
                                                  Heaven forbid he gets a paper cut or a tummy ache or actually has to play 2 nights in a row..
                                                  Too many soft players today..
                                                  Could never compete with the other generation's...
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                                                  • thomorino
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                                                    #270
                                                    Originally posted by Buckandadime
                                                    Seems you would have chose someone better someone better than Jokic since you've done nothing but bad mouth the guy the guy..
                                                    I said Jokic is a good player, he's nowhere near on Embiid's level, another dumb post
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                                                    • thomorino
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                                                      #271
                                                      Originally posted by stevenash
                                                      And here we have yet another Morino lie exposed.

                                                      In almost 50 games Denver has played so far, Jokic has had one DNP coaches decision on the back end of a back to back.
                                                      Just one.

                                                      All you do is lie to support your argument.
                                                      You make up shit, because you're a pathological liar, you can't help yourself.
                                                      It's unethical too, look up the word ethics, it means rules of conduct, you're unethical.

                                                      Bridgewater did not win ten in a row.
                                                      That got exposed as a fraudulent lie.

                                                      Giannis does not have enough games played or minutes played to be considered an MVP.
                                                      That got exposed in like record setting time as a fradulant lie.

                                                      Here's the latest fraudulent lie.
                                                      They just keep on coming.

                                                      Here's Jokic's game log.
                                                      Find me the second time he sat on the back end of a back to back.
                                                      Win valuable prizes.

                                                      Get Nikola Joki&#263;'s 2021-22 game by game stats along with wins and losses stats on Basketball-Reference.com


                                                      He missed a four game block in the beginning of the season.
                                                      Not applicable to the debate, and besides Embid missed more

                                                      Stop your lying.
                                                      Denver has implied Jokic won't be playing on the second night of back to backs and he's already missed 1. Shut up. You are dumb and your post are dumb.
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                                                      • thomorino
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                                                        #272
                                                        Originally posted by Buckandadime


                                                        This year alone Jokic has played in 52/58 games 89%..
                                                        Embiid has played in 46/58 79%..
                                                        Since their careers started, Jokic has played in 505/530 games 95%..
                                                        Embiid has played in 306/448 games 68%.
                                                        Throw out the first year for Embiid where he.played only 33 games and its still only 273/366 games 74%..
                                                        Originally posted by Buckandadime

                                                        Yep..
                                                        He just wants to argue and then come back with the exact same point you made all the while calling you names..


                                                        Embiid is a part time player..
                                                        Heaven forbid he gets a paper cut or a tummy ache or actually has to play 2 nights in a row..
                                                        Too many soft players today..
                                                        Could never compete with the other generation's...
                                                        Embiid came into the NBA at age 18, his wasn't physically read for the NBA. I don't give a shit about previous years.

                                                        Embiid is in great shape now and he's a physically dominant player who plays hard on both sides.

                                                        Jokic is a finesse player who barely plays defense.

                                                        There isn't a single GM in entire NBA who would take Jokic over Embiid.

                                                        Not 1.
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                                                        • thomorino
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                                                          #273
                                                          Originally posted by stevenash
                                                          And here we have yet another Morino lie exposed.

                                                          In almost 50 games Denver has played so far, Jokic has had one DNP coaches decision on the back end of a back to back.
                                                          Just one.

                                                          All you do is lie to support your argument.
                                                          You make up shit, because you're a pathological liar, you can't help yourself.
                                                          It's unethical too, look up the word ethics, it means rules of conduct, you're unethical.

                                                          Bridgewater did not win ten in a row.
                                                          That got exposed as a fraudulent lie.

                                                          Giannis does not have enough games played or minutes played to be considered an MVP.
                                                          That got exposed in like record setting time as a fradulant lie.

                                                          Here's the latest fraudulent lie.
                                                          They just keep on coming.

                                                          Here's Jokic's game log.
                                                          Find me the second time he sat on the back end of a back to back.
                                                          Win valuable prizes.

                                                          Get Nikola Joki&#263;'s 2021-22 game by game stats along with wins and losses stats on Basketball-Reference.com


                                                          He missed a four game block in the beginning of the season.
                                                          Not applicable to the debate, and besides Embid missed more

                                                          Stop your lying.
                                                          Originally posted by stevenash
                                                          My point exactly.
                                                          You can't bullshit a fact checking researcher, and I can fact check anything, at anytime, in a New York minute.
                                                          When is the OP going to ever get that.
                                                          Originally posted by stevenash
                                                          <br>
                                                          *never mind, it's been said to death already*
                                                          Embiid dominates game, he takes over physically. He's better at everything than Jokic except passing, and its not close.


                                                          Again, I challenge you to a loser leaves the forum bet that Embiid wins MVP, not Jokic.

                                                          You are a coward. And don't come back with your I don't do business with you trash - this isn't a real money wager.
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                                                          • Buckandadime
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                                                            • 04-21-15
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                                                            #274
                                                            Originally posted by thomorino
                                                            Embiid came into the NBA at age 18, his wasn't physically read for the NBA. I don't give a shit about previous years.

                                                            Embiid is in great shape now and he's a physically dominant player who plays hard on both sides.

                                                            Jokic is a finesse player who barely plays defense.

                                                            There isn't a single GM in entire NBA who would take Jokic over Embiid.

                                                            Not 1.
                                                            You're trying to tell me that between the 2 (two), not 1(one) GM would take Jokic over Embiid?
                                                            Not 1 (one)???
                                                            I forgot who I'm talking to..
                                                            You said that a league MVP and 2(two) time Finals MVP wasn't T10 player..
                                                            Guess that means that you think Embiid is better than him also since you've declared Joel to be T5 all-time...


                                                            If I were you, I'd put down another 20 "units" on Jokic...
                                                            You know, just to hedge against injury..
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                                                            • d2bets
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                                                              • 08-10-05
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                                                              #275
                                                              Originally posted by thomorino
                                                              Embiid dominates game, he takes over physically. He's better at everything than Jokic except passing, and its not close.


                                                              Again, I challenge you to a loser leaves the forum bet that Embiid wins MVP, not Jokic.

                                                              You are a coward. And don't come back with your I don't do business with you trash - this isn't a real money wager.
                                                              If Embiid "dominates" and Jokic doesn't then why does Jokic shoot 63.5% on 2pt FG while Embiid shoots 52.5%? Oh yeah, Jokic also grabs about 20% more rebounds.
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                                                              • Buckandadime
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                                                                #276
                                                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                If Embiid "dominates" and Jokic doesn't then why does Jokic shoot 63.5% on 2pt FG while Embiid shoots 52.5%? Oh yeah, Jokic also grabs about 20% more rebounds.
                                                                Don't forget Jokic is a better passer and plays 9/10 games..
                                                                Oh!!! He also has 15 (fifteen) triple doubles this year to Embiids 2 (two)...
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                                                                • pablo222
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                                                                  #277
                                                                  Jokic doesn't get the acknowledgement because he is a white conservative.
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                                                                  • thomorino
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                                                                    #278
                                                                    Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                    If Embiid "dominates" and Jokic doesn't then why does Jokic shoot 63.5% on 2pt FG while Embiid shoots 52.5%? Oh yeah, Jokic also grabs about 20% more rebounds.
                                                                    Embiid is a far better scorer and rebounder, I'll talk slowly here so you can follow.

                                                                    Jokic plays with smaller players so of course he will get more rebounds, the difference in rebounds per game between Jokic and Embiid this year is less than 1, your 20 percent number is a lie.

                                                                    Embiid shoots more than Jokic. He shoots more in general, including more jump shots and 3's. Jokic doesn't score as much because he's not as good of a player - but the way stats work is the more you shoot further from the hoop the lower your shooting percentage will be.

                                                                    A good simple example of this is comparing Deandre Jordan to Lebron James. Jordan does nothing but dunk and take short lay ups because he can't shoot, so of course his shooting percentage is better than most players including, Lebron.

                                                                    Embiid takes more mid-range shots than Jokic since Embiid is a far better mid-range shooter than Jokic, this is why Embiid takes more shots and shoots a lower percentage. Embiid shoots more and makes more shots than Jokic because he is a better shooter.
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                                                                    • thomorino
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                                                                      #279
                                                                      Originally posted by Buckandadime

                                                                      You're trying to tell me that between the 2 (two), not 1(one) GM would take Jokic over Embiid?
                                                                      Not 1 (one)???
                                                                      I forgot who I'm talking to..
                                                                      You said that a league MVP and 2(two) time Finals MVP wasn't T10 player..
                                                                      Guess that means that you think Embiid is better than him also since you've declared Joel to be T5 all-time...


                                                                      If I were you, I'd put down another 20 "units" on Jokic...
                                                                      You know, just to hedge against injury..
                                                                      Originally posted by Buckandadime
                                                                      Don't forget Jokic is a better passer and plays 9/10 games..
                                                                      Oh!!! He also has 15 (fifteen) triple doubles this year to Embiids 2 (two)...
                                                                      Dumb posts from dumb people.

                                                                      Jokic passes more than Embiid because he's not as good of a scorer as him, so he has too.

                                                                      Again, Embiid has the far bigger defensive impact as well, Embiid is a rim protector and a far superior one on one defender to Jokic.
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                                                                      • d2bets
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                                                                        • 08-10-05
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                                                                        #280
                                                                        Originally posted by thomorino
                                                                        Embiid is a far better scorer and rebounder, I'll talk slowly here so you can follow.

                                                                        Jokic plays with smaller players so of course he will get more rebounds, the difference in rebounds per game between Jokic and Embiid this year is less than 1, your 20 percent number is a lie.

                                                                        Embiid shoots more than Jokic. He shoots more in general, including more jump shots and 3's. Jokic doesn't score as much because he's not as good of a player - but the way stats work is the more you shoot further from the hoop the lower your shooting percentage will be.

                                                                        A good simple example of this is comparing Deandre Jordan to Lebron James. Jordan does nothing but dunk and take short lay ups because he can't shoot, so of course his shooting percentage is better than most players including, Lebron.

                                                                        Embiid takes more mid-range shots than Jokic since Embiid is a far better mid-range shooter than Jokic, this is why Embiid takes more shots and shoots a lower percentage. Embiid shoots more and makes more shots than Jokic because he is a better shooter.
                                                                        I'm starting to think that you are banned from accessing every website other than SBR.

                                                                        Emiid avg is 11.2 rebounds per game
                                                                        Jokic avg is 13.8 rebounds per game

                                                                        But I stand corrected. I was wrong about 20%. Jokic is actually averaging over 23% more rebounds per game.

                                                                        Jokic shoots more 3's.

                                                                        And...oh fukk it. Who the hell has time to correct all your fake numbers. You live in your own alternate reality.
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