Total Grading

[iceminers26]

The Tribe/Tigs game got me to thinking about total gradings on games that get called but the play already was a winning play but turns to a cancellation.

I understand the rules on the grading of totals in games that are cancelled but the part that I never really agreed with is if the play already won and then the game was cancelled. I am not talking about handicaps, runlines, or pucklines because I understand why games have to be complete, anything can happen. I am talking about totals, take tonights Tribe/Tigs game and if you had the over your play was an easy winner after the 3rd or 4th inning because they surpassed the set total of 9 I believe it was with 13 total runs but the game got called in the 5th and all bets are off. The same can happen in tennis where if you have the over, say 20 games, and there are 21+ total games in the 3rd set and a player retires, your winner just turned into nothing but a cancellation. I just feel that if it already won (this only pertains to overs because an under could still go over at anytime) it should be payed by the book, I'm I way off with this thought process?

[iceminers26]

cliff notes for you lazy ****s that don't like to read

Ex:

If you had over 9 in the Tribe game, game went over in the 3rd or 4th and ended with 13 total runs when called in the 5th, your wager is graded as no action because game has to be completed....

Do you feel over plays that already surpass the total should be paid regardless if game goes the distance?

[Extra Innings]

cliff notes for you lazy ****s that don't like to read

Ex:

If you had over 9 in the Tribe game, game went over in the 3rd or 4th and ended with 13 total runs when called in the 5th, your wager is graded as no action because game has to be completed....

Do you feel over plays that already surpass the total should be paid regardless if game goes the distance?

Makes sense the all totals are action but I imagine it would significantly change the wagering environment. I am not a pro but I imagine the UNDER would be the best bet where there was even a slight chance of rain or thunderstorms.

[sharpcat]

So If you had the under than the book should win right

You do realize why this can't happen correct?
If the book paid you because you had the over than if you had the under on that game you would lose, but that would be unfair right

[Chi_archie]

if it was 0-0 and got called in the top of the fifth, when you had the over you wouldn't complain


rules are rules.... they even out over time...


I'm pissed too... I had the over in a number of round robin parlays and it prob cost me 3-400 dollars....

but hey, like I said...long term it evens out

[davidchong]

i bet over in few parlays at bet365.com and get paid in full, graded as winner

[davidchong]

Game Total - Subject to 8 ½ innings rule EXCEPT where the game total has already gone over, (if game total has already gone over the quoted total, then bets on the over will be settled as winners, with bets on the under settled as losers) or where the natural conclusion of the game would have meant the outcome of the total quoted would be determined, e.g MLB game is ‘called’, or suspended at 5-5, bets on Over 10 or 10.5 would be settled as winners, with bets on Under 10 or 10.5 being settled as losers, since any natural conclusion to the match would have at least 11 runs.

YUPIIII

i bet over in few parlays at Bet365.com and get paid in full, graded as winner

[iceminers26]

Hey Sharpcat

If you took the time to read my initial post you lazy **** you would know that I stated this only pertains to overs and not unders but your too lazy and just come in bashing about it so go **** yourself.

[iceminers26]

davidchong

thanks for posting those rules from whatever book that is...I was just stating games where the result was already determined not games where it could go either way still, even if the over is 8 and they put up 7 in the 1st and it gets rained out in the 2nd, that game can still go under so it should be graded no action. These lazy ****s don't take the time to read the post and then come in here swinging a bick dick.

[iceminers26]

Chi Archie

Missing the point buddy, maybe take the time to read the post before posting a response

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IceMiners26

Interesting topic....going with your original post....books would get killed in these situations where the game went over and then was called (assuming the under bet was CANCELED and winners were paid out). As you know...the books are looking for even action. At that one posters book they grade out both side of the wager (the fact they they even grade it is extremely unusual)

[iceminers26]

EI

good point buddy, I guess it would be too much and unfair if we asked the books to grade the winners as just that and grades the losers as cancelled wagers. I just feel that if it already surpassed the number then they should be graded, if the total is 10 and there are 11 runs when called, the over bettors should get paid and the under bettors should lose there play. However if there is 9 runs scored in the first inning and the total is 10 with game being called in the second, all wagers should be cancelled because regardless if this game was going over, there is no way to prove it because it is possible they could play scoreless ball over the remainder of the game.

[Raleigh77]

it sucks, i had over in that contest as well, but it will even out in the long run.

[OmgUrMom]

iceminers no offense buddy, but your post does not add up. Why would they pay when you win it looks like (or you already did win the bet) but you DON'T lose when it looks like your going to lose when its 0-0 in the 5th like someone mentioned and then it gets canceled?

I suppose you could lobby for the rule change, the only thing it would do is make the under a better play when its anticipated that the game might be rained out since you are freerolling on any game that is cancelled.

[sharpcat]

There are reasons why rules like this are in place If you had the over and no runs were scored yet than you would be grateful if the game got rained out, so quit whining

How about the books just grade every bet you make a winner so that you do not have anything to cry about