BETPHOENIX continues to recieve higher grade than MATCHBOOK

[Fishhead]

When will the insanity end?


Take a look in the Sportsbook and Industry forums............BetPhoenix is recieving all kinds of complaints.

[betplom]

Fishy, do you start threads to hear yourself think?

Too bad you Yanks are stuck with all the shit books.

[tltaylor89]

LOL this is the most lying book ever .

[Brock Landers]

never fukkin heard of em

[pitman]

[Fishhead]

In the new Readers/Posters Poll rating books, BetPhoenix is recieving nary a vote................




Updated ranking, now including points:

[pitman]

hmmmmmm.......

[betplom]

Pinny still number 1 even though most SBR posters cannot play there.

[Fishhead]

Pinny still number 1 even though most SBR posters cannot play there.

Helluva book for sure...............

[Fishhead]

The bad press continues to pile in on BetPhoenix on forums worldwide, including this one.

[Fishhead]

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/473013-betphoenix-sinking-ship.html#post4469445

[ryanjep]

feeling the hate

[JUST A MAN]

I got 2 payouts from them. Western Union $1400.00 on Wed and Thurs.

I asked last Monday. Got paid by Thursday.

$2800.00

They used to be alot faster so I can see some smoke here.

[philswin]

Matchbook and Heritage (b+) are far superior then Phoenix

[SBR_John]

Its a fact that BP signed a non disclosure to look at acquiring Matchbook. They passed probably because of the amount of debt. You guys can trust your gut if you want but the ratings on both are solid.

[Fishhead]

Its a fact that BP signed a non disclosure to look at acquiring Matchbook. They passed probably because of the amount of debt. You guys can trust your gut if you want but the ratings on both are solid.

John, forget the gut.............read the SPORTSBOOK and INDUSTRY forum once in awhile.

There are numerous threads in that forum, each containing numerous posts from different posters, with significant complaints and issues with BetPhoenix..............why are these ignored by you and your staff???

Also, would suggest reading other gaming forums, there are many complaints on those as well with issues regarding BP.

[SBR_John]

John, forget the gut.............read the SPORTSBOOK and INDUSTRY forum once in awhile.

There are numerous threads in that forum, each containing numerous posts from different posters, with significant complaints and issues with BetPhoenix..............why are these ignored by you and your staff???

Also, would suggest reading other gaming forums, there are many complaints on those as well with issues regarding BP.

OK if your narrow scope is on evaluating customer service then fine. But one of those is so far in debt they are techincally bankrupt and are being shopped around for a buyer while the other one still has a major piece of residual from the BetCRIS family and is a known commodity in Costa Rica. You rank them how you want but we are forced to consider the greater picture.

[flyingillini]

Matchbook and Heritage (b+) are far superior then Phoenix

Only reason Heritage is not an A+ is they probably don't want to be held hostage to pay for the rating. They are an A+ book for sure, I could care less what rating they have.

[Fishhead]

Seriously, I don't get it!

SBR really is discrediting themselves with their continued ranking of this book, it's a disgrace to this site really.

Not 2-3 days has gone by in the past 8-12 weeks where this book does not recieve complaints in these forums..........it never stops really.


Another thread started yesterday featuring more trouble..................

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/477709-just-requested-4k-out-betphoenix.html

AGAIN FOLKS, IF YOUR IN BETPHOENIX OR PLANNING ON DEPOSITING THERE, DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND READ THE FIRST THREE PAGES OF THE SPORTSBOOK AND INDUSTRY FORUM AND ALSO DO SOME SEARCHES AT OTHER OFFSHORE FORUMS.

[rm18]

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just deposited monday

[Fishhead]

Wager details for ticket number 19472648-1:

Wager Type: Money Line
Wager Status: Pending
Risk / To Win Amount: 470.80 / 1,624.26 (USD) Accepted 5/11/2010 5:36 PM - EST

Sport / Period: NBA Basketball / Game
Selection:
Celtics Series Price 5/11/2010 8:00:01 PM - (EST)
+345
* Event Notes:
NBA Basketball - Playoffs - Conference Semifinals - Series Prices
(Best of Seven 2-2-1-1-1)

just deposited monday

The good news is that they have NEVER had an official NO PAY.................although a slew of their clients have experienced uncalled for misery in recieving payments.

What made you deposit here when there are so many other books rated higher by the posters here, not to mention all the complaints they have been recieving lately?

[BatemanPatrickl]

No complaints at all from my end. Fishhead starts threads because he get paid per post.

[rm18]

They have a $200 freeplay, i only sent $300 and got the freeplay and fees picked up. In the past they had the fastest moneygram payouts but have not had one since februrary.

[Fishhead]

No complaints at all from my end. Fishhead starts threads because he get paid per post.

Stop with the nonsense!

Yeah, I get paid to semi-bash SBR advertisers.

Your a not so bright child.

[patswin]

i'd be careful with matchbook after reading what went down with shrink and his big bet.
that's a huge red flag for me. still have a small balance there but no where near what i normally have. had some payout issues with bet phoenix that was promptly taken care of.

[Fishhead]

Pat, I would be very careful, especially at this time of year, with many books.......Matchbook included.

As far as SAFETY and SAFEST books to be in at this time for U.S citizens, my top four would include...............


1. BETJAM/GREEK

2. LEGENDZ

3. BOOKMAKER

4. HERITAGE

[EmpireMaker]

Fishhead gets paid by Matchbook !!!!!

[Fishhead]

Fishhead gets paid by Matchbook !!!!!

Sure I do...........thanks why I'm recommending posters limit their exposure there as we head into JUNE/JULY.

[Smoke]

it sucks that people are gettin paid to bash sbr advertisers.........

i've been playin there for months and have had zero problems.....

i've requested a total of 4 western union payouts for $1,000 each in the past 30 days and have gotten paid everytime the same day or next day..

I'm way in the green at BP and my account has never been hacked!!!!!!! At one point i had almost 6k sitting in my account, no problems at all..

Some people don't realize that there wireless connection might not be that secure, therefore easy to hack, also avoid using the same password at multiple books and forums..

BP getting a higher grade than matchbook is correct, matchbook takes longer to pay and is not as easy to deposit into

[Fishhead]

it sucks that people are gettin paid to bash sbr advertisers.........

i've been playin there for months and have had zero problems.....

i've requested a total of 4 western union payouts for $1,000 each in the past 30 days and have gotten paid everytime the same day or next day..

I'm way in the green at BP and my account has never been hacked!!!!!!! At one point i had almost 6k sitting in my account, no problems at all..

Some people don't realize that there wireless connection might not be that secure, therefore easy to hack, also avoid using the same password at multiple books and forums..

BP getting a higher grade than matchbook is correct, matchbook takes longer to pay and is not as easy to deposit into

I just report what I've been reading(see SPORTSBOOK and INDUSTRY forum and other forums) and been hearing first hand from friends of mine that have acoounts there.

For the 933rd time, SBR pays me nothing, nada, zilch.

If they start, you will be the 94th person to know.

-FH-

[BatemanPatrickl]

Jesus Fishhead can you tell the truth about anything?

[djefferis]

Pat, I would be very careful, especially at this time of year, with many books.......Matchbook included.

As far as SAFETY and SAFEST books to be in at this time for U.S citizens, my top four would include...............


1. BETJAM/GREEK

2. LEGENDZ

3. BOOKMAKER

4. HERITAGE
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AGREED, would probably put #4 at #2 and the others a notch lower. Add 5dimes to my list as well.

Now factor in CS, juice and blandness of lines and cost of transactions to the equation and you still will have a list with these 5 in the top 7. Legends and BM I don't use, Jamaica/heritage I do and 5dimes will be funded again at shortly.

BP is solid. The bonus they offer is unbeatable, does that mean I would rush to post up a few grand there, no. For recreational/bonus hunter players you can't beat 200 for 200 FP. Small payouts haven't been the issue, it's mainly large European cash outs from my reading of the complaints. Show me a 200-850 American slow pay documented complaint and I'll stand corrected. You want security, go with the 4 FH listed. As mentioned not every shop is for every player.

Btw, I'll toss rebatewager in my list of up and comers too. Just started, so far good service. No complaints and 50% cash rebate and a dime line for bases is the rec.players friend.

[Smoke]

great post, exactly my point.. the issue with BP accounts seems to be european cash outs and not with US accounts.. BP has been a great out for me, never had any issues and i'm up around 7k with them and have over 2k still account, never been hacked...

however i also feel that the one's that are complaining about about BP are either paid posters or more importantly are players that posted up and violated rules regarding bonuses and now are just bad mouthing BP for no reason... It sucks when an honest book gets ripped by a bunch of idiots who didn't follow the rules.. BP will always be an out for me however if they ever screw me i'll let this entire forum know

[Fishhead]

great post, exactly my point.. the issue with BP accounts seems to be european cash outs and not with US accounts.. BP has been a great out for me, never had any issues and i'm up around 7k with them and have over 2k still account, never been hacked...

however i also feel that the one's that are complaining about about BP are either paid posters or more importantly are players that posted up and violated rules regarding bonuses and now are just bad mouthing BP for no reason... It sucks when an honest book gets ripped by a bunch of idiots who didn't follow the rules.. BP will always be an out for me however if they ever screw me i'll let this entire forum know

Paid posters at sites that do not have BP as an advertiser, is that what you mean?

[Fishhead]

Here we are 5 months later...........MATCHBOOK continues to pay like clockwork and not a week goes by without a few punters complaining about something concerning BP payouts.

Meanwhile, SBR continues to rank MATCHBOOK a B- and BETPHOENIX a B+