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    Ben Simmons the most overrated NBA player in the last decade?

    Making $31 Million dollars this year, scores 14 PPG 8 boards and 7 assists! Shiver me timber TONS of guys can do this in the league not just a few tons, oh btw his career Free throw percentage is sub 60% so you can't even count on him down the stretch, oh wait his career % from 3 is 15% lmao, yes 15% not a typo, He is scared to even shoot the ball, he is a #3-4 man at best, This is why 76ers aren't getting far ever with him unless they can pick up a star that can score or trade Ben and get something better.

    Listened to Doc Rivers say tonight it isn't fair to put pressure on Ben when Joel is out, LMAO stop it Doc you clown the guy signed a $220 MILLION dollar contract, So sick of the hearing excuses for the kid he's been a bust period, I could only imagine how quick he signed that contract once they told him how much they wanted to give him.

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    so true-just like a few more in the league

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    He got far too much hype coming out of college. He couldn't lead his LSU squad to the tourney and he has never gotten better since coming into the league so your assessment of him is not far off and totally fair to say.

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    Nope it is Giannis. He can't shoot and somehow people compare him to Lebron, Durant, Curry and all these guys who can shoot the basketball.

    Sorry not impressed with someone just being tall and dunking all his points.

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    How much does Rudy Gobert make?

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    Neither of those guys rated that high. Seems like Morant the most overrated they talk like he carries Memphis he is one of the worst starting PGs in the NBA. Now I am not saying he does not have potential with how hard he is to stay in front has a high upside.

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    Yeah his shooting is terrible. Worth the money? Not sure, but he's a great player.

    His defense is fantastic (big plus in today's NBA), his vision is fantastic, length to bother anyone on the court and can drive to an elite level which is again modern NBA. Gets a bad wrap I feel from offense only NBA fans, boys you gotta play d! There's a tonne of guys overpaid in the league is Simmons one? Maybe, but not by much imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unrivaled View Post
    Nope it is Giannis. He can't shoot and somehow people compare him to Lebron, Durant, Curry and all these guys who can shoot the basketball.

    Sorry not impressed with someone just being tall and dunking all his points.
    lol Giannis is a beast. Shaq couldn't shoot either he was an okay player.

    Pretty much unguadable on transition and into the lane, only learning his trade as a shooter (which is improving rapidly), plays great d. He's gonna have a field day against the Nets.

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    agree with mob both takes. giannis does more than dunk but if thatís all he did and scored 30 a night shouldnít u be amazed why every 6Ē11 guy isnít doing the same the reason no one else is because they canít. Simmons led league in steals last year, good defense, his agility and quickness at 6Ē11 is off the charts did I mention heís a pg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    Neither of those guys rated that high. Seems like Morant the most overrated they talk like he carries Memphis he is one of the worst starting PGs in the NBA. Now I am not saying he does not have potential with how hard he is to stay in front has a high upside.
    I actually really like Morant tbh, I think he passes to much in critical times, if he can get a better outside shot he would be unstoppable, was wide open from the key late in the game and passed up a wide open 3 when they kicked it out to him, have be able to knock those down, but I think his future is bright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    Neither of those guys rated that high. Seems like Morant the most overrated they talk like he carries Memphis he is one of the worst starting PGs in the NBA. Now I am not saying he does not have potential with how hard he is to stay in front has a high upside.
    Morant is one of the worst starting PGs in the NBA?

    Good joke

    Guess you lost money on memphis, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WireWire View Post
    I actually really like Morant tbh, I think he passes to much in critical times, if he can get a better outside shot he would be unstoppable, was wide open from the key late in the game and passed up a wide open 3 when they kicked it out to him, have be able to knock those down, but I think his future is bright.
    Morant is like John Wall with a higher IQ. Sky is the limit for him. Gonna go down as one of the best pgs of this next generation, guarantee it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mase of Base View Post
    Yeah his shooting is terrible. Worth the money? Not sure, but he's a great player.

    His defense is fantastic (big plus in today's NBA), his vision is fantastic, length to bother anyone on the court and can drive to an elite level which is again modern NBA. Gets a bad wrap I feel from offense only NBA fans, boys you gotta play d! There's a tonne of guys overpaid in the league is Simmons one? Maybe, but not by much imo.
    People don't play defense in 2021 lol. What is he good for? He is long for the position yippy, literally can't do nothing else that you need to do in this day and age like shoot. he is a good number 3 or 4 guy on a good but 76ers aren't going anywhere they are an auto fade for me next round, Joel can only do so much. But that's just my opinion I respect your opinion though.
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    RUDY GOBERT?

    5 years, 204 million.

    LMFAO!

    Think about this for a second. A guy who can't get his own shot 1 on 1, just got paid 40 million per year.

    Gobert had 1 point at halftime today.

    Lmfao.

    If Mitchell and Conley weren't on this team they would be in the lottery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WireWire View Post
    People don't play defense in 2021 lol. What is he good for? He is long for the position yippy, literally can't do nothing else that you need to do in this day and age like shoot. he is a good number 3 or 4 guy on a good but 76ers are3nt going anywhere they are a fade next round for me I don't care who they play, Joel can only do so much. But that's just my opinion i respect what you gotta say.
    Tobias is better than Simmons. Simmons isn't their number 2. He's their 3rd best player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WireWire View Post
    I actually really like Morant tbh, I think he passes to much in critical times, if he can get a better outside shot he would be unstoppable, was wide open from the key late in the game and passed up a wide open 3 when they kicked it out to him, have be able to knock those down, but I think his future is bright.
    Yeah Ja and the Grizz have something going on there! Honestly expected a bit more out of them this season (as in not play in), but he keeps progressing and superstar looks inevitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Morant is like John Wall with a higher IQ. Sky is the limit for him. Gonna go down as one of the best pgs of this next generation, guarantee it.
    Ya i really like Morant, I think he looks to get his teammates involved a little to much in key times, he can get to the rack whenever he wants. If he can develop and outside shot Jesus, which i think he can he seems like they type of guy that wants to get better and he knows his outside shooting is lacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mase of Base View Post
    Yeah Ja and the Grizz have something going on there! Honestly expected a bit more out of them this season (as in not play in), but he keeps progressing and superstar looks inevitable.
    I might be the only one who thinks this but i think the Grizzles team top to bottom is dogshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WireWire View Post
    People don't play defense in 2021 lol. What is he good for? He is long for the position yippy, literally can't do nothing else that you need to do in this day and age like shoot. he is a good number 3 or 4 guy on a good but 76ers aren't going anywhere they are an auto fade for me next round, Joel can only do so much. But that's just my opinion I respect your opinion though.
    I think defense in a lot of leagues now is being valued highly. Defense in the NBA has been downright atrocious in the last few years imo so to have a guy that can effect another teams score -10 or so is huge. Joel need Simmons to get half his shots off as he averages nearly a double double on both rebounds and assists. He plays for Australia and I'm from New Zealand so I'm biased as I love seeing guys from down under doing well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WireWire View Post
    I might be the only one who thinks this but i think the Grizzles team top to bottom is dogshit.
    Ha yeah have to agree actually, really dissapointed me this season. Morant hit the cluch shots to put the warriors out which I though might of done a little damage.

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    Yep. Shaq is the best comparison. Unlike Shaq though he is actually a threat from the perimeter

    Quote Originally Posted by Mase of Base View Post
    lol Giannis is a beast. Shaq couldn't shoot either he was an okay player.

    Pretty much unguadable on transition and into the lane, only learning his trade as a shooter (which is improving rapidly), plays great d. He's gonna have a field day against the Nets.

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    greg oden

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    Anthony Bennett. His overhype led him to be picked number 1.

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    Gobert 2 time, likely 3 time defensive player of the year

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    Gobert is over paid he a terrible shot maker

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    Gobert a beast

    Learn the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    How much does Rudy Gobert make?
    I donít think Gobert knows how to play basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mase of Base View Post
    lol Giannis is a beast. Shaq couldn't shoot either he was an okay player.

    Pretty much unguadable on transition and into the lane, only learning his trade as a shooter (which is improving rapidly), plays great d. He's gonna have a field day against the Nets.
    Lol, he shot 1/16 from three against the heat. If thatís improving rapidly, he will be Ray Allen when he makes two straight.

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    Sorry...you’re thinking of Austin Matthews

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    Neither of those guys rated that high. Seems like Morant the most overrated they talk like he carries Memphis he is one of the worst starting PGs in the NBA. Now I am not saying he does not have potential with how hard he is to stay in front has a high upside.
    C'mon man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    C'mon man.
    PG position is strong but he is 22/30. There are a few teams with multiple Pgs better than him like Raptors, Nets and Kings. Injuries so high it is hard to do lists but he is not better than guys like Wall, SGA, and Murray even if they missed a lot of time. Still might be like 60th best player in league overall but PG position is stacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    PG position is strong but he is 22/30. There are a few teams with multiple Pgs better than him like Raptors, Nets and Kings. Injuries so high it is hard to do lists but he is not better than guys like Wall, SGA, and Murray even if they missed a lot of time. Still might be like 60th best player in league overall but PG position is stacked.
    You're cluless. SGA and Murray and Lowry better than Morant? Lmao. Yeah that's why those teams are at home. Murray isn't even the best player on his own team...

    SGA led his team to the worst record in the league. Fox? Fox was in the lottery. Morant is better than Fox.

    There's no way Morant isn't a top 10 PG.

    Learn the game.

    Your posts on Morant are not gonna age well by the way, so be careful what you say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    PG position is strong but he is 22/30. There are a few teams with multiple Pgs better than him like Raptors, Nets and Kings. Injuries so high it is hard to do lists but he is not better than guys like Wall, SGA, and Murray even if they missed a lot of time. Still might be like 60th best player in league overall but PG position is stacked.
    There are not 21 point guards that a GM would take over Ja Morant. That's just silly talk. There might be 10, maybe. But even at that, if we're talking building a team out for the next 5 years, I would rank him even higher because he's so young and he's going to keep getting better.

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