Ken Weitzner: Not a Doctor, But Played One On The Internet

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  • Brock Landers
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 06-30-08
    • 45359

    #36
    Originally posted by iceminers26
    12 DUIs in a 20 years span
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    • SBR_John
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-12-05
      • 16471

      #37
      Gambling911 has proven to be mean spirited vultures. Sting, the owner of G911 like many others got their start by working for Ken. That fact is never mentioned in their piss on the dead hogwash. Ken turned his competitive negativism on me as much as anyone. So what, its business. I would not mind their grave pissing if it had any semblance of balance. Ken helped a lot of people get started in this industry including the owner of G911 and including me. Many, many people have been affected positively. My daughter just earned her Masters from a top private university. I would have never been able to afford that had I not stumbled onto Ken's brain child and learned the ropes of the industry by watching him.

      We fought a hard nosed battle on the internet website grid iron. I learned a lot from him. I'm saddened by his passing and embarrassed that there are so many people out there in this industry who have no heart.
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      • Fishhead
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-11-05
        • 40179

        #38
        Originally posted by SBR_John
        Gambling911 has proven to be mean spirited vultures. Sting, the owner of G911 like many others got their start by working for Ken. That fact is never mentioned in their piss on the dead hogwash. Ken turned his competitive negativism on me as much as anyone. So what, its business. I would not mind their grave pissing if it had any semblance of balance. Ken helped a lot of people get started in this industry including the owner of G911 and including me. Many, many people have been affected positively. My daughter just earned her Masters from a top private university. I would have never been able to afford that had I not stumbled onto Ken's brain child and learned the ropes of the industry by watching him.

        We fought a hard nosed battle on the internet website grid iron. I learned a lot from him. I'm saddened by his passing and embarrassed that there are so many people out there in this industry who have no heart.



        HERE HERE

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        • Brock Landers
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 06-30-08
          • 45359

          #39
          Originally posted by SBR_John
          Gambling911 has proven to be mean spirited vultures. Sting, the owner of G911 like many others got their start by working for Ken. That fact is never mentioned in their piss on the dead hogwash. Ken turned his competitive negativism on me as much as anyone. So what, its business. I would not mind their grave pissing if it had any semblance of balance. Ken helped a lot of people get started in this industry including the owner of G911 and including me. Many, many people have been affected positively. My daughter just earned her Masters from a top private university. I would have never been able to afford that had I not stumbled onto Ken's brain child and learned the ropes of the industry by watching him. We fought a hard nosed battle on the internet website grid iron. I learned a lot from him. I'm saddened by his passing and embarrassed that there are so many people out there in this industry who have no heart.
          Well said.
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          • Scorpion
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-04-05
            • 7797

            #40
            Weitzner Suicide Choice an Epidemic in Hong Kong
            When Gambling911.com first revealed last week the macabre way in which online gambling posting forum founder, Kenneth Weitzner, killed himself, many in the gaming community were stunned.


            When Gambling911.com first revealed last week the macabre way in which online gambling posting forum founder, Kenneth Weitzner, killed himself, many in the gaming community were stunned.

            Weitzner was found dead in a detached apartment on his sprawling Chesapeake, Virginia property along with his wife Jackie earlier last month. A cryptic suicide note had been left but no clear motive was given. Sources close to Gambling911.com also revealed that, in addition to a huge bump on Weitzner's head, a portion of his genitalia and upper right thigh had been burned severely from attempting to relight a charcoal grill in a room where the windows and doors were completely sealed shut with tape. That grill was used to emit deadly carbon monoxide gases.

            This type of suicide is nothing new in Hong Kong. In fact, killing one's self through use of a charcoal grill is becoming something of an epidemic there.

            It all began when, in November 1998, a woman sealed the door and windows of her bedroom, lit a pile of barbecue charcoal and lay down to die.

            Seemingly out of nowhere, charcoal burning emerged to become the city's third most common method of suicide.

            The epidemic soon spread across the world. The lead singer of the US rock group Boston committed suicide by burning charcoal in 1997.

            In Hong Kong the situation is so bad that in one district supermarkets locked charcoal in back storage rooms, only bringing out the bags at the request of shoppers. As a result, suicide by burning charcoal has declined by 53%.

            When carbon monoxide poisoning was first mentioned as a cause of death in the Weitzner case, many assumed a car enclosed in the couple's garage must have been the culprit. Until the invention of catalytic converters, suicide was commonly committed by inhaling the exhaust fumes of a running car engine. Before 1975, motor car exhaust contained up to 25% carbon monoxide; but newer cars have catalytic converters, which eliminate over 99% of the carbon monoxide produced.

            The Weitzner deaths are still under investigation with toxicology results expected shortly.

            Alejandro Botticelli, Gambling911.com
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            • Scorpion
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 09-04-05
              • 7797

              #41
              Gambino Crime Figure Commits Suicide
              81-year old Gambino crime soldier, Anthony Anastasio, fatally shot himself this weekend, just days before he was set to serve a 2 ½ year prison term.

              Anastasio was convicted for racketeering , arson, and extortion. He was set to surrender himself to authorities on May 10 to begin the prison term.

              "It was a sudden death and his family is in mourning," Anastasio's lawyer, Paul Bergman, said, declining further comment.

              Police say they found a suicide note allegedly written by Anastasio, a .22-caliber handgun and two shell casings.

              The Fed's have continued their aggressive attack against the Gambino crime family in New York. New indictments were handed down for 14 Gambino family members and associates on a variety of charges two weeks ago. The rash of charges in the indictments include extortion , wire fraud , illegal gambling , loansharking , narcotics trafficking, jury tampering , and sex trafficking of minors.

              Gambling911.com Staff
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              • The General
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-10-05
                • 13279

                #42
                There is something very important here in the point about so many (So VERY many) persons which Ken gave some sort of opportunity to in this business. As John stated, it is saddening to see so much hatred and cold heartlessness which has been displayed. I understand we live in a world which expression is free and a Right, but there is a point where it also sadistic. And no matter what Ken has done in past behavior to warrant any negative review, the atrocious, disturbing, hideous and IMO, wrongful approach taken by some regarding this tragedy makes those guilty of this post-death slander no better a person than the person they are trying to describe.
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                • BEANTOWNJIM
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-12-05
                  • 4610

                  #43
                  WELL SAID GENERAL YOU KNEW HIM BETTER THAN ANYBODY YOU WERE WITH HIM THE LONGEST IN THESE FORUMS.

                  I THOUGHT THE SHRINK WAS A GREAT GUY ONLINE I USED TO LOVE BUSTING HIS BALLS AND HE DID THE SAME TO ME.HE DIDNT BAN ME IT WAS HAS JERK OFF MODERATORS MAINLY THAT DRUG ADDICT MOFOME

                  SHRINK NEVER BOTHERED ME I GOT BANNED I NEVER ONCE SAID OH THAT SHRINK SUCKS I JUST LAUGHED IT OFF AND MOVED ON TO ANOTHER FORUM UNTIL SHRINK LIFTED HIS BAN.I ALSO LIKE TONAY MONTANA HE SEEMS LIKE A GOOD KID AND FUN IN THE FORUMS.

                  I WOULD NEVER BAD MOUTH THE SHRINK I DID WHEN HE WAS ALIVE BUT NOT NOW THAT HE HAS PASSED ON I BUSTED HIS BALLS ENOUGH WHEN HE WAS LIVING I AM GOING TO LEAVE HIM ALONE WHILE HE IS RESTING
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                  • robmpink
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-09-07
                    • 13205

                    #44
                    Originally posted by The General
                    There is something very important here in the point about so many (So VERY many) persons which Ken gave some sort of opportunity to in this business. As John stated, it is saddening to see so much hatred and cold heartlessness which has been displayed. I understand we live in a world which expression is free and a Right, but there is a point where it also sadistic. And no matter what Ken has done in past behavior to warrant any negative review, the atrocious, disturbing, hideous and IMO, wrongful approach taken by some regarding this tragedy makes those guilty of this post-death slander no better a person than the person they are trying to describe.
                    A little kid getting hit by a car and dying is tragic. Two adults who opted to take their own life isn't.
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                    • Scorpion
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 09-04-05
                      • 7797

                      #45
                      Originally posted by BEANTOWNJIM

                      I WOULD NEVER BAD MOUTH THE SHRINK I DID WHEN HE WAS ALIVE BUT NOT NOW THAT HE HAS PASSED ON I BUSTED HIS BALLS
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                      • blackbox
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-28-08
                        • 1415

                        #46
                        Amen general-!! A salute to you sir-
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                        • pavyracer
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 04-12-07
                          • 82868

                          #47
                          The guy murdered his wife and killed himself. If he wanted us to honor him he should have stayed alive.
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                          • Fishhead
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-11-05
                            • 40179

                            #48
                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                            The guy murdered his wife and killed himself.

                            How do you know this????
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                            • pavyracer
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 04-12-07
                              • 82868

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Fishhead
                              How do you know this????
                              If you can prove otherwise I will take your version of events.
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                              • Fishhead
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 08-11-05
                                • 40179

                                #50
                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                If you can prove otherwise I will take your version of events.
                                As stated, you have no idea.
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                                • BadNina
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-27-07
                                  • 10491

                                  #51
                                  I was not a fan of Ken's and didn't like him but that has little meaning now that he is dead. Gambling 911 is not even The Enquirer level of tabloid news but rather the real cheap stuff with photoshopped cow aliens on the cover. They are below low.
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                                  • pavyracer
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 04-12-07
                                    • 82868

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Fishhead
                                    As stated, you have no idea.
                                    Same as you.
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                                    • wtf
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 08-22-08
                                      • 12983

                                      #53
                                      plommer, why you think he is alive?
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                                      • Chi_archie
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-22-08
                                        • 63172

                                        #54
                                        gambling911 is trash
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                                        • BEANTOWNJIM
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 08-12-05
                                          • 4610

                                          #55
                                          FISHHEAD WHEN YOU SAY HOW DO YOU KNOW SHRINK DIDNT KILL HIMSELF AND HIS WIFE ARE YOU SAYING MAYBE GAMBLING 911 HIRED MOFOME TO DO IT.

                                          BOYS I WONDER IF FISHEAD IS ON TO SOMETHING HERE MAYBE THIS WASNT SUICIDE THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN AN INSIDE MURDER

                                          THIS IS GETTING MORE AND MORE LIKE AN ALFRED HITCHCOCK ADVENTURE
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                                          • Fishhead
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-11-05
                                            • 40179

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by BEANTOWNJIM
                                            FISHHEAD WHEN YOU SAY HOW DO YOU KNOW SHRINK DIDNT KILL HIMSELF AND HIS WIFE ARE YOU SAYING MAYBE GAMBLING 911 HIRED MOFOME TO DO IT.

                                            BOYS I WONDER IF FISHEAD IS ON TO SOMETHING HERE MAYBE THIS WASNT SUICIDE THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN AN INSIDE MURDER

                                            THIS IS GETTING MORE AND MORE LIKE AN ALFRED HITCHCOCK ADVENTURE

                                            .....and will do so for quite sometime in my opinion.
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                                            • BEANTOWNJIM
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-12-05
                                              • 4610

                                              #57
                                              SHRINKS FAMILY SHOULD INVESTIGATE THIS MATTER QUESTION SOME PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT THEY KNOW.ANY TOUGH GUY COULD MAKE THEM WRITE SUICIDE NOTES IT JUST DOESNT SOUND LIKE SHRINK OR SCARLRTT TO COMMIT SUICIDE

                                              911 SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED MAYBE THERE IS A MURDERER HIDING IN THESE FORUMS

                                              I BLAME IT ON LENNY FROM CASCADE HE IS PROBABLY INVOLVED IN THIS MURDER THIS F-CKING LOW LIFE WOULD DO ANYTHING FOR A BUCK THESE DAYS (LENNY FROM CASCADE IS A KILLER)
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                                              • Scorpion
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-04-05
                                                • 7797

                                                #58
                                                Rats! Shrink Ken Weitnzer Was a Federal Informant



                                                Deceased gambling portal owner Kenneth B. "The Shrink" Weitzner once ratted out three medical co-workers and turned them in to Federal authorities, in order to keep himself out of prison, Gambling911.com can reveal in a world exclusive report!
                                                The shocking information about Weitzner, who killed himself last month at his Chesapeake, Virginia Mansion, came out in 1998 during a high-stakes civil court battle in Virginia between Weitzner, then owner of the portal The Prescription (www.therx.com), and Dennis Atiyeh of Whitehall, Pennsylvania, then owner of Jamaican offshore sportsbook English Sports Betting (ESB) and weekly gambling magazine the Las Vegas Sporting News (LVSN).
                                                In the fall of 1998, Weitzner wrote on The Prescription that ESB was going out of business because an LVSN employee, Lynda Collins, had received a paycheck that bounced when she tried to cash it in a Las Vegas casino,
                                                Weitzner falsely made the assumption that because one LVSN employee got one bounced check on one occasion, that LVSN must be in financial trouble, and since the owner of LVSN also owned ESB, then ESB must be in financial trouble too.
                                                Weitzner advised readers of The Prescription who wagered with ESB to immdiately pull out all their betting funds--and some did.
                                                "I'd rather be at the front of the line than at the back of line when ESB starts giving out refunds," Weitzner famously wrote, in a sentence that particularly irked Atiyeh.
                                                Atiyeh, a high-strung, burly former All-America football player at the University of Pittsburgh, sued Weitzner and The Prescription for libel for $5 million.
                                                Weitzner quickly countersued Atiyeh and ESB (but not LVSN) for libel for $10 million, for comments made about Weitzner in the 1998 LVSN Football Annual (in an article on touts, Weitzner was described as "sleazy" and "a wacko").
                                                The competing libel lawsuits went on for a few weeks until they basically cancelled each other out and a settlement was reached--neither party would have to pay the other side anything, and both sides agreed never to write anything again about the other side (Atiyeh thought he won the battle because he got the judge to remove Weitzner's website from the Internet for several weeks).
                                                But, in the weeks of trial before that agreement was reached, a team of top private investigators hired by Atiyeh's attorneys uncovered numerous instances of previous criminal behavior by Weitzner.
                                                The attorneys planned to use that information to discredit Weitzner in court.
                                                The most shocking instance--that Weitzner once ratted out co-workers to the Feds to keep himself out of prison after being arrested for fraud--was not revealed in court because the dual libel cases were abruptly settled before Atiyeh's lawyers had a chance to bring it up.
                                                So what did happen?
                                                According to records from Atiyeh's attorneys' private investigators, which included a former FBI agent, Weitzner was arrested in the mid-1980s in New York for falsifying medical documents to falsely show he was a psychiatrist and allow him to practice medicine and prescribe medication.
                                                Earlier, Weitzner had graduated from a three-year Virginia medical school (in five years) with a degree in psychiatry, but then couldn't pass the medical boards exam which would officially certify him as a doctor and legally allow him to practice medicine.
                                                So he moved back to his hometown New York area, where his certification failure was unknown, and joined a psychiatric practice in an office with three other shrinks.
                                                Weitzner faked the paperwork needed to prove he was a licensed psychiatrist, and began illegally practicing psychiatry and prescribing meds.
                                                One of the people who he wrote illegal prescriptions for painkillers for was his then girlfriend Jackie, who he would later marry.
                                                The scam didn't last--before long Federal law enforcement authorities got wind of what was happening and busted Weitzner and charged him with multiple felonies.
                                                Weitzner was facing a looooong stretch in Federal prison.
                                                Since Jackie was the main prosecution witness against Weitzner, who knew a wife couldn't be forced to testify in court against her husband, he quickly married Jackie and figured he was in the clear because the Feds would no longer have their main witness for a prosecution.
                                                The ploy didn't work, as the Feds had other witnesses and other evidence and told The Shrink his multi-felony prosecution would go on.
                                                Frantic, the ersatz doc begged the Feds for a way out.
                                                Told by the Feds that he could avoid prison if he turned in any doctors he knew who were engaged in more serious criminal activity, Weitzner ratted out the three fellow shrinks in his office, who were involved in massive Medicare fraud, defrauding the U.S. government out of more than $30,000 in false insurance claims.
                                                Those three doctors were each charged with multiple felonies and eventually went to prison.
                                                In exchange for his cooperation, the felonies against Weitzner were reduced to a single misdemeanor charge--he paid a small fine but got no jail time.
                                                And he never became a doctor--shortly after avoiding prison, he moved back to Virginia, got into sports betting and sports handicapping and eventually started The Prescription, which he later sold before starting a second portal, Eye on Gambling (www.eog.com).
                                                So how does this all connect to Weitzner's suicide last month?
                                                Weitzner was apparently in some kind of trouble again--the Feds raided his home and seized his computers after he killed himself.
                                                Was Weitzner being pressured by the Feds to rat out some colleagues to save his skin again, this time colleagues in the gambling industry?
                                                And was Weitzner balking, because doctors you rat out don't carry guns, unlike offshore bookies you might rat out?
                                                Did Weitzner's controversial life finally come down to a Hobson's choice, which is no choice at all?
                                                Was he facing the choice of going to prison for the rest of his life or ratting out Mob-connected online bookies who would surely seek deadly revenge?
                                                Was it die in prison or die by Mob assassin?
                                                Maybe that's why Weitzner died by his own hand.
                                                By Tom Somach
                                                Gambling911.com Staff Writer
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                                                • Fishhead
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 08-11-05
                                                  • 40179

                                                  #59
                                                  might rat out?
                                                  Did Weitzner's controversial life finally come down to a Hobson's choice, which is no choice at all?
                                                  Was he facing the choice of going to prison for the rest of his life or ratting out Mob-connected online bookies who would surely seek deadly revenge?
                                                  Was it die in prison or die by Mob assassin?
                                                  Maybe that's why Weitzner died by his own hand.





                                                  ......or perhaps why he FAKED HIS OWN DEATH.
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                                                  • Brock Landers
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 06-30-08
                                                    • 45359

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Scorpion
                                                    Rats! Shrink Ken Weitnzer Was a Federal Informant Deceased gambling portal owner Kenneth B. "The Shrink" Weitzner once ratted out three medical co-workers and turned them in to Federal authorities, in order to keep himself out of prison, Gambling911.com can reveal in a world exclusive report! The shocking information about Weitzner, who killed himself last month at his Chesapeake, Virginia Mansion, came out in 1998 during a high-stakes civil court battle in Virginia between Weitzner, then owner of the portal The Prescription (www.therx.com), and Dennis Atiyeh of Whitehall, Pennsylvania, then owner of Jamaican offshore sportsbook English Sports Betting (ESB) and weekly gambling magazine the Las Vegas Sporting News (LVSN). In the fall of 1998, Weitzner wrote on The Prescription that ESB was going out of business because an LVSN employee, Lynda Collins, had received a paycheck that bounced when she tried to cash it in a Las Vegas casino, Weitzner falsely made the assumption that because one LVSN employee got one bounced check on one occasion, that LVSN must be in financial trouble, and since the owner of LVSN also owned ESB, then ESB must be in financial trouble too. Weitzner advised readers of The Prescription who wagered with ESB to immdiately pull out all their betting funds--and some did. "I'd rather be at the front of the line than at the back of line when ESB starts giving out refunds," Weitzner famously wrote, in a sentence that particularly irked Atiyeh. Atiyeh, a high-strung, burly former All-America football player at the University of Pittsburgh, sued Weitzner and The Prescription for libel for $5 million. Weitzner quickly countersued Atiyeh and ESB (but not LVSN) for libel for $10 million, for comments made about Weitzner in the 1998 LVSN Football Annual (in an article on touts, Weitzner was described as "sleazy" and "a wacko"). The competing libel lawsuits went on for a few weeks until they basically cancelled each other out and a settlement was reached--neither party would have to pay the other side anything, and both sides agreed never to write anything again about the other side (Atiyeh thought he won the battle because he got the judge to remove Weitzner's website from the Internet for several weeks). But, in the weeks of trial before that agreement was reached, a team of top private investigators hired by Atiyeh's attorneys uncovered numerous instances of previous criminal behavior by Weitzner. The attorneys planned to use that information to discredit Weitzner in court. The most shocking instance--that Weitzner once ratted out co-workers to the Feds to keep himself out of prison after being arrested for fraud--was not revealed in court because the dual libel cases were abruptly settled before Atiyeh's lawyers had a chance to bring it up. So what did happen? According to records from Atiyeh's attorneys' private investigators, which included a former FBI agent, Weitzner was arrested in the mid-1980s in New York for falsifying medical documents to falsely show he was a psychiatrist and allow him to practice medicine and prescribe medication. Earlier, Weitzner had graduated from a three-year Virginia medical school (in five years) with a degree in psychiatry, but then couldn't pass the medical boards exam which would officially certify him as a doctor and legally allow him to practice medicine. So he moved back to his hometown New York area, where his certification failure was unknown, and joined a psychiatric practice in an office with three other shrinks. Weitzner faked the paperwork needed to prove he was a licensed psychiatrist, and began illegally practicing psychiatry and prescribing meds. One of the people who he wrote illegal prescriptions for painkillers for was his then girlfriend Jackie, who he would later marry. The scam didn't last--before long Federal law enforcement authorities got wind of what was happening and busted Weitzner and charged him with multiple felonies. Weitzner was facing a looooong stretch in Federal prison. Since Jackie was the main prosecution witness against Weitzner, who knew a wife couldn't be forced to testify in court against her husband, he quickly married Jackie and figured he was in the clear because the Feds would no longer have their main witness for a prosecution. The ploy didn't work, as the Feds had other witnesses and other evidence and told The Shrink his multi-felony prosecution would go on. Frantic, the ersatz doc begged the Feds for a way out. Told by the Feds that he could avoid prison if he turned in any doctors he knew who were engaged in more serious criminal activity, Weitzner ratted out the three fellow shrinks in his office, who were involved in massive Medicare fraud, defrauding the U.S. government out of more than $30,000 in false insurance claims. Those three doctors were each charged with multiple felonies and eventually went to prison. In exchange for his cooperation, the felonies against Weitzner were reduced to a single misdemeanor charge--he paid a small fine but got no jail time. And he never became a doctor--shortly after avoiding prison, he moved back to Virginia, got into sports betting and sports handicapping and eventually started The Prescription, which he later sold before starting a second portal, Eye on Gambling (www.eog.com). So how does this all connect to Weitzner's suicide last month? Weitzner was apparently in some kind of trouble again--the Feds raided his home and seized his computers after he killed himself. Was Weitzner being pressured by the Feds to rat out some colleagues to save his skin again, this time colleagues in the gambling industry? And was Weitzner balking, because doctors you rat out don't carry guns, unlike offshore bookies you might rat out? Did Weitzner's controversial life finally come down to a Hobson's choice, which is no choice at all? Was he facing the choice of going to prison for the rest of his life or ratting out Mob-connected online bookies who would surely seek deadly revenge? Was it die in prison or die by Mob assassin? Maybe that's why Weitzner died by his own hand. By Tom Somach Gambling911.com Staff Writer
                                                    Interesting info...mostly because i was an ESB player at that time, never got stiffed, and never heard of therx till many years later..
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                                                    • betplom
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 09-20-06
                                                      • 13444

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by wtf
                                                      plommer, why you think he is alive?
                                                      Where did I sat that?
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                                                      • CarpeDime
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 09-01-09
                                                        • 7873

                                                        #62
                                                        not for nothing but writing fake prescriptions is not a big deal, I don't even think it's morally wrong

                                                        defrauding medicare is evil

                                                        this particular anecdote doesnt make ken look bad at all
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