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  • Colt
    Restricted User
    • 04-24-10
    • 409

    #1
    I am going into the restaurant franchise business.
    Had another talk with my lawyer this morning, the hedge fund is a no-go because I will have to get it regulated and could be facing a federal prison sentence if I did it under the table.

    I am now going into the restaurant franchise business, thinking something like Five Guys Burgers or Subway. Not too worried about restaurant profits, just enough to cover the food, labor, rent, and the light bill. I will be running a gambling operation in the back with dice games, blackjack, roulette wheel, and also booking sports bets. I have access to six figures to cover the bookmaking, will secure business loans to run the restaurant. Will pay off the loans with restaurant and gambling profits.

    What else do I need to know?
  • THE PROFIT
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-27-09
    • 17701

    #2
    Get fries with a payout?
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    • pavyracer
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 04-12-07
      • 82868

      #3
      Here is an idea. Maybe buy the University of Kentucky and make a rule that the basketball players stay in school for 4 years so they can win a championship!
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      • Boner_18
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-24-08
        • 8301

        #4
        Subway has just about the highest success rate of any franchise and is currently running a special, i think it is less than 30k to get the rights.
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        • SBR_John
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 07-12-05
          • 16471

          #5
          The biggest mistake franchise guys make is on picking the location. If you can't get a good location because, none are available, price, ect., you have to take a pass. There is a slight tendency to think that a franchise will do well because its a franchise. The fanchise will help with location selection but watch them. They are not going to want to take a pass if an A+ location is not available.
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          • philswin
            SBR MVP
            • 04-18-07
            • 1279

            #6
            Got to make room for the massage parlor also.
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            • Chi_archie
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-22-08
              • 63172

              #7
              go with chick fil-a
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              • Colt
                Restricted User
                • 04-24-10
                • 409

                #8
                Originally posted by Chi_archie
                go with chick fil-a
                Aren't they closed on Sundays? Can't do it, need Sunday NFL betting in the back room.
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                • williams22
                  Restricted User
                  • 09-19-08
                  • 6134

                  #9
                  Do NOT go with Subway as they are already fairly maxed out for expansion in most places. Five Guys has a great business model, requires low square footage, and uses very few ingredients so setting up your suppliers is easy. Where are you located? I am actually beginning work as a restaurant consultant in June.
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #10
                    Not a bad idea Colt, you do not need to make anything with franchise, just use it as a front and let profits come in with gambling. It is a good clean front too instead of a go go bar or massage parlor.
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                    • THE PROFIT
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 11-27-09
                      • 17701

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Colt
                      Aren't they closed on Sundays? Can't do it, need Sunday NFL betting in the back room.
                      running gambling operation out of the back of the biz? Not smart! You book from home
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                      • Al Masters
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 04-29-06
                        • 6940

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Colt
                        Had another talk with my lawyer this morning, the hedge fund is a no-go because I will have to get it regulated and could be facing a federal prison sentence if I did it under the table.

                        I am now going into the restaurant franchise business, thinking something like Five Guys Burgers or Subway. Not too worried about restaurant profits, just enough to cover the food, labor, rent, and the light bill. I will be running a gambling operation in the back with dice games, blackjack, roulette wheel, and also booking sports bets. I have access to six figures to cover the bookmaking, will secure business loans to run the restaurant. Will pay off the loans with restaurant and gambling profits.

                        What else do I need to know?

                        Stick to selling weed.
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                        • DrStale
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 12-07-08
                          • 9692

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Colt
                          .What else do I need to know?
                          When your shtick has run its course.
                          Originally posted by Dark Horse
                          If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                          • Doug
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-10-05
                            • 6324

                            #14
                            I'm not so sure about Subway either, worked at a new one for awhile decades ago, you have to do too much the corporate way ( only these two brands of canned olives,etc.), and the food is not that great, and you have to sell it cheap ( $5 footlongs). The price of the sandwich hasn't kept up with inflation, in other words. They are pretty well saturated in the marketplace too. I actually only like their seafood sub, and made at only one local Subway.....they deviate from the corporate menu, and it's not like 50% mayo.

                            A $5 sub is clearly better food than say McD's, for a similar price, but Subway kind of does most of its business around 11am-2pm, then dies. I think we did maybe 150 sandwiches on average a day, like 1985 or so, and I think they were a good $3 +, more like $7-8 in 2010 dollars, so I think owners are getting squeezed ?

                            I'd talk to an owner first, he's probably the guy making the sandwich, running the till, mopping the floor, cleaning the bathroom, taking out the trash, and washing the windows, etc. He's probably there 80 hours a week to make 40k.

                            I've seen some local ones close lately. Jerseymike's is much better.
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                            • Brock Landers
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 06-30-08
                              • 45359

                              #15
                              Harolds Chicken Shack, hottest thing going, need more of these, large concentration in colored neighborhoods though, but they LOVE dice...
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                              • freeVICK
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-21-08
                                • 7114

                                #16
                                open a bar in a college town instead. atleast u only work half days, get to drink all u want, nd get to look at hot chicks everyday. how can u go wrong. college kids will always drink no matter how bad the economy is
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                                • Colt
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 04-24-10
                                  • 409

                                  #17
                                  Good Tips!
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                                  • stealthyburrito
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 05-12-09
                                    • 21562

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by freeVICK
                                    open a bar in a college town instead. atleast u only work half days, get to drink all u want, nd get to look at hot chicks everyday. how can u go wrong. college kids will always drink no matter how bad the economy is
                                    this guy's idea.

                                    lots of expendable income.
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                                    • philswin
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-18-07
                                      • 1279

                                      #19
                                      Invite Roethlisberger would be great publicity - No need to advertise
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                                      • triqy
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 11-19-09
                                        • 800

                                        #20
                                        Five guys burgers is a real up and coming franchise. You may get your best bang for the buck with that
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                                        • jlgarciaiii22
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-14-08
                                          • 1792

                                          #21
                                          Will you be comping Super Size Fries to all losing players
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                                          • durito
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-03-06
                                            • 13173

                                            #22
                                            Franchisee Qualification Criteria

                                            Applicants must meet these basic requirements to be considered for a Five Guys franchise:

                                            * Liquid Assets around $500,000
                                            * Net Worth around $1,300,000
                                            * Food and Beverage Industry Experience
                                            * Business ownership and employee management experience
                                            * Ability to purchase the rights to open five (5) or more locations
                                            * Commitment to protecting and enhancing the Five Guys brand integrity
                                            * A passion for burgers and fries

                                            Basic Fees and Costs

                                            * Franchise fee: $25,000 per restaurant
                                            * Development Fee: $30,000 per restaurant
                                            * 6% (7.5 % in New York) Royalty Fee
                                            * 3% Total Marketing Fee (1.5% for national marketing and 1.5% for local use)
                                            * Approximately $200,000 to $500,000 for build out costs
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                                            • Iwinyourmoney
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 04-18-07
                                              • 18368

                                              #23
                                              Do Sbr points count as liquid assests?
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                                              • Doc JS
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-15-06
                                                • 6885

                                                #24
                                                Good info, Durito...

                                                I think we can safely assume this leaves Colt out of the picture !!!

                                                Doc
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                                                • pavyracer
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 04-12-07
                                                  • 82868

                                                  #25
                                                  Somebody tell Colt that piss doesn't count as a liquid asset.
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                                                  • Doug
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 08-10-05
                                                    • 6324

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by durito
                                                    Franchisee Qualification Criteria

                                                    Applicants must meet these basic requirements to be considered for a Five Guys franchise:

                                                    * Liquid Assets around $500,000
                                                    * Net Worth around $1,300,000
                                                    * Food and Beverage Industry Experience
                                                    * Business ownership and employee management experience
                                                    * Ability to purchase the rights to open five (5) or more locations
                                                    * Commitment to protecting and enhancing the Five Guys brand integrity
                                                    * A passion for burgers and fries

                                                    Basic Fees and Costs


                                                    way different for a Subway, and a McD's !

                                                    What do these #'s translate to ?
                                                    * Franchise fee: $25,000 per restaurant
                                                    * Development Fee: $30,000 per restaurant
                                                    * 6% (7.5 % in New York) Royalty Fee
                                                    * 3% Total Marketing Fee (1.5% for national marketing and 1.5% for local use)
                                                    * Approximately $200,000 to $500,000 for build out costs

                                                    yyyyy
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                                                    • jlgarciaiii22
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 04-14-08
                                                      • 1792

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                      Somebody tell Colt that piss doesn't count as a liquid asset.
                                                      That's some funny sh!t
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                                                      • Doug
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                        • 6324

                                                        #28
                                                        From sports betting to Subway, I think y'all need a better plan, eh ?
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                                                        • The General
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 08-10-05
                                                          • 13279

                                                          #29
                                                          Most any youthful/middle aged person on here could go to work for a franchise and learn the ropes, get the funding, do the same and have a nice business in life.

                                                          Good luck
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                                                          • MJFtheGenius
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 05-31-07
                                                            • 7257

                                                            #30
                                                            You can not run a gambling operation out of a fast food place with 12 year old kids working there..someone will snitch

                                                            You need to open up a nice Italian resturaunt
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                                                            • durito
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 07-03-06
                                                              • 13173

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by The General
                                                              Most any youthful/middle aged person on here could go to work for a franchise and learn the ropes, get the funding, do the same and have a nice business in life.

                                                              Good luck
                                                              Yea, I'm sure most of the posters here will have no problem showing a 1.3million net worth
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                                                              • Colt
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 04-24-10
                                                                • 409

                                                                #32
                                                                I am working the phones right now getting investors and recent college business grads to run stores.
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                                                                • thezbar
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 08-29-06
                                                                  • 6429

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                                                                  running gambling operation out of the back of the biz? Not smart! You book from home
                                                                  Tough to hide things when the building inspectors arrive.
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                                                                  • wtf
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 08-22-08
                                                                    • 12983

                                                                    #34
                                                                    run something with a gay theme, jj will invite all of his sauna buddies

                                                                    place will be STUFFED
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                                                                    • BestPlay2day
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 08-25-08
                                                                      • 5794

                                                                      #35
                                                                      This is the worst bit I have ever seen on SBR, and that's saying a lot!
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