Wade is 3. Durant is no where near the top 3.....no where near. You cannot even attempt to compare Wade to Durant. I'm lovin how all these NBA newbies are putting Durant in the top 3.
BTW, unless your a great defender, you'll never be in the top 3.
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tealish
SBR MVP
02-02-10
3386
#3
Durant isn't 3 yet. Slow down.
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ScarFace_1990
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04-08-10
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#4
Originally posted by Goat Milk
Wade is 3. Durant is no where near the top 3.....no where near. You cannot even attempt to compare Wade to Durant. I'm lovin how all these NBA newbies are putting Durant in the top 3. BTW, unless your a great defender, you'll never be in the top 3.
definitely agree
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HoulihansTX
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#5
"BTW, unless your a great defender, you'll never be in the top 3."
Agree wholeheartedly with the above comment. You have to have a tremendous effect on both sides of the ball in order to be considered the best, That is why Dirk can be the best player on your team if you want to win in the playoffs.
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HoulihansTX
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#6
Give durant time. Only 21. Great things to come.
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Ralphie1412
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01-29-08
13963
#7
1 Michael Jordan
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3
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5 Kobe Bryant
6 Lebron James
7 Dwaye Wade
8 Kevin Durant
When Lebron wins some rings he can go above kobe.
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kobefanatic
SBR Hall of Famer
01-19-10
9013
#8
durant is good but not yet better than wade
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tealish
SBR MVP
02-02-10
3386
#9
Originally posted by Goat Milk
BTW, unless your a great defender, you'll never be in the top 3.
Posted by Kevin Arnovitz Dwyane Wade averaged 1.67 blocks per 48 minutes this season – far and away the highest rate of any guard in the league.
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Goat Milk
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#11
Originally posted by tealish
Wade isn't a great defender though
Wade is the best 1 on 1 defender in the league outside of Kobe. Teal, did you know Wade is the first person in NBA history 6'4 and under to record over 100 blocks and steals in a season?
Did you know Wade has pretty much averaged more blocks and steals than Lebron every year of his career and his 5 inches shorter.
Teal, Wade was known in his early years as a defender, and when he came out of marquette, he was never really an offensive player. He's going to be first team all defense again this year, and will be for the next 5 years as well. You also know he was 3rd in defenisve player of the year last year right?
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Om3n
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04-18-10
76
#12
2! offcourse...
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chankng
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03-16-10
1975
#13
Lebron cant be 1 yet, kobe has 4 rings no matter wat u say he did it only cuz he had shaq and etc. Lebron will be 1 as soon as he win his first ring. Plus i hate ppl always say kobe was surrounded by a cast of great players in order to win, but the fact that every great player needs his sidekick to win. Dont tell me shaq + jamison + mo williams + varejao (a rodman type player but can scare pretty welll) is not a group of good players surrounding lebron. If lebron cannot win this year, kobe is still sitting at the top no matter wat, cuz in the end is what the number of champions it counts
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jsmithj88
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12-27-08
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#14
Originally posted by chankng
Lebron cant be 1 yet, kobe has 4 rings no matter wat u say he did it only cuz he had shaq and etc. Lebron will be 1 as soon as he win his first ring. Plus i hate ppl always say kobe was surrounded by a cast of great players in order to win, but the fact that every great player needs his sidekick to win. Dont tell me shaq + jamison + mo williams + varejao (a rodman type player but can scare pretty welll) is not a group of good players surrounding lebron. If lebron cannot win this year, kobe is still sitting at the top no matter wat, cuz in the end is what the number of champions it counts
thats a ridiculous way of looking at things. if robert horry was in the league he would be at the top since he has the most rings.
u have to look at it objectively and when u do, lebron is the best player in the league.
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tealish
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02-02-10
3386
#15
Originally posted by Goat Milk
Wade is the best 1 on 1 defender in the league outside of Kobe. Teal, did you know Wade is the first person in NBA history 6'4 and under to record over 100 blocks and steals in a season? Did you know Wade has pretty much averaged more blocks and steals than Lebron every year of his career and his 5 inches shorter. Teal, Wade was known in his early years as a defender, and when he came out of marquette, he was never really an offensive player. He's going to be first team all defense again this year, and will be for the next 5 years as well. You also know he was 3rd in defenisve player of the year last year right?
I know about the blocks and steals -- Wade is statistical defender. Much like Iverson back in his heyday. AI's my guy, but he was once considered for DPOY and that was insane. Same with Wade. He's not a great 1 on 1 defender at all. I see him get blown by way too many times to consider him even a top 10 defender in this league.
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Wilforth
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05-10-08
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#16
Curry will surpass Durant with time.
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Goat Milk
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#17
Originally posted by tealish
I know about the blocks and steals -- Wade is statistical defender. Much like Iverson back in his heyday. AI's my guy, but he was once considered for DPOY and that was insane. Same with Wade. He's not a great 1 on 1 defender at all. I see him get blown by way too many times to consider him even a top 10 defender in this league.
Wade is the best 1 on 1 defender in the league outside of Kobe. He's not a statistical defender, he does things when it counts. Lebron is a only a decent 1 on 1 defender (no where near Wade), but is a great team defender. Wade is very much like Jordan actually defensively, nothing like A.I., he gambles a lot, but when it comes down to it, he will lock your ass up. A lot of the game winning plays Wade has made in his career have been defensive.
I really can't say much more about Wade's defense.
Regardless, Bryant is second right now, Lebron is better. Of course, not career wise, Bron has tons more to go. Bryant will drop to 3rd next year/in 2 years. Wade and Lebron will be the best 2 players in the world for the next 5 years. The championships are going to start running through them starting with this year.
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tealish
SBR MVP
02-02-10
3386
#18
Originally posted by Goat Milk
Wade is the best 1 on 1 defender in the league outside of Kobe. He's not a statistical defender, he does things when it counts. Lebron is a only a decent 1 on 1 defender (no where near Wade), but is a great team defender. Wade is very much like Jordan actually defensively, nothing like A.I., he gambles a lot, but when it comes down to it, he will lock your ass up. A lot of the game winning plays Wade has made in his career have been defensive. I really can't say much more about Wade's defense. Regardless, Bryant is second right now, Lebron is better. Of course, not career wise, Bron has tons more to go. Bryant will drop to 3rd next year/in 2 years. Wade and Lebron will be the best 2 players in the world for the next 5 years. The championships are going to start running through them starting with this year.
We'll have to agree to disagree yet again here, lol
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Goat Milk
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#19
Originally posted by Wilforth
Curry will surpass Durant with time.
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Mikail
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07-19-09
21689
#20
1. Kobe 2. LeBron 3.Dwayne 4 Kevin.
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fedtpels
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01-08-10
407
#21
I think it's the current top3 you're looking for right? or this season's at least. Rings would not count towards that top3.
I agree with LeBron on top followed by Kobe. From there on down it could go left and right. I'm leaning D-Wade.
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SwisherSweet420
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01-18-10
922
#22
you guys can't put lebron at number 1 till he wins a championship. I'm sorry but Kobe has rings and until lebron gets 1 he's not number 1
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ngates815
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12-01-09
13845
#23
Originally posted by SwisherSweet420
you guys can't put lebron at number 1 till he wins a championship. I'm sorry but Kobe has rings and until lebron gets 1 he's not number 1
Well the start of this thread was for MVP THIS YEAR. Kobe has 7 years or so on Lebron, though he did win his first championship 3-4 years in? But again he also had one of the most dominant big guys to play with. Not dissing Kobe he is great, but Lebron is better now.
Who would you rather have in the next 5 seasons? Lebron or Kobe? Everyone will pick Lebron, so that would make him the best in the league NOW.
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makemerich
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02-19-10
392
#24
i take a handful over durant anyday. i still dont see lebron over kobe in general, mayb this season but kobe is still better imo.
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whatsgood5
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#25
Can't argue with this
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whatsgood5
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10-13-09
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#26
Although sometime soon we might have to move Durant up to #2
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james4512
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10-27-08
3707
#27
Originally posted by Goat Milk
Wade is the best 1 on 1 defender in the league outside of Kobe. Teal, did you know Wade is the first person in NBA history 6'4 and under to record over 100 blocks and steals in a season?
Did you know Wade has pretty much averaged more blocks and steals than Lebron every year of his career and his 5 inches shorter.
Teal, Wade was known in his early years as a defender, and when he came out of marquette, he was never really an offensive player. He's going to be first team all defense again this year, and will be for the next 5 years as well. You also know he was 3rd in defenisve player of the year last year right?
are you nuts? Kobe is not the best defender in the league and wade isnt the second best. There both good defenders especially for being so great offensively but theres tons of guys around the league that dont get the recognition because there not scorers.
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Goat Milk
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#28
James4125,
There are no better perimeter defenders in the league than Kobe and Wade. Don't get ahead of yourself. Go look at how many times Kobe has made first team all defense then report back here.
What's good,
you'll never be top 3 if you don't defend.
you'll never be top 3 at Durant's SF position if he can't average more than 4-5 assists per game with those other numbers. He doesn't know how to make plays for others yet, he's just a scorer. Enough with this thread.
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sideline36
SBR High Roller
11-01-09
215
#29
I will take Wade over Lebron. Todays NBA is soft and allows Lebon to bowl through the paint when his butt should be on the floor. Thats what technical fouls are for to send a message. Wade makes the most difficult shots with regularity and is my personal MVP.
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jjgold
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07-20-05
388179
#30
Artest leaked on Durant in this series
He could not handle the strenghth
Wade is much better than Durant
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dieberiz
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04-26-10
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#31
lebron
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Renojaguar
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03-29-09
921
#32
I was wondering when someone was going to put Howard on the list
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williams22
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09-19-08
6134
#33
Originally posted by Renojaguar
I was wondering when someone was going to put Howard on the list
You don't get to be on the list if you can't keep yourself on the floor.
Kobe and Wade are not the best 1-on-1 defenders in the league.
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Goat Milk
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#34
Originally posted by williams22
Kobe and Wade are not the best 1-on-1 defenders in the league.
Easily. Kobe might even be the best 1 on 1 perimeter defender ever to play. He's a better defender than Jordan. I don't care what anyone says.