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  • obamaismyuncle
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-31-08
    • 17801

    #1
    Do I have this correct?
    SBR makes money off having the sponsors at the top of the page? So when you deposit with one of them SBR makes money? So the more you lose the more SBR makes? So SBR wants you to lose, so they(being SBR) can make more money? So the people who are "paid to post" here probably want you to lose too, right?
  • Doug
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-10-05
    • 6324

    #2
    Pretty much, but it is the same at the other places, also.
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    • pavyracer
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 04-12-07
      • 82872

      #3
      They are affiliates. But as long as guys like me and other winners keep winning and cashing out from the books they get nada.
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      • Doug
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-10-05
        • 6324

        #4
        seems like a better gig than actually being the bookie....as long as the forums keep getting their cut.

        SBRJohn is no dummy !
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        • Masu485
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-14-08
          • 7700

          #5
          sometimes it's so obvious JJ wants you to play and lose. he'll create threads reminding you to gamble.
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          • obamaismyuncle
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-31-08
            • 17801

            #6
            I am of the belief that certain posters here in Players Talk who are "paid to post" in one form or another intentionally try to mislead bettors, I may be wrong but its my belief. I think the more a select few in here can get people to lose the more they make for themself and SBR.
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            • polskboy
              SBR MVP
              • 01-29-10
              • 1688

              #7
              Originally posted by obamaismyuncle
              I am of the belief that certain posters here in Players Talk who are "paid to post" in one form or another intentionally try to mislead bettors, I may be wrong but its my belief. I think the more a select few in here can get people to lose the more they make for themself and SBR.
              thats jj and fishhead???
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              • jlgarciaiii22
                SBR MVP
                • 04-14-08
                • 1792

                #8
                So would it be safe to say they lead you in the wrong direction with the picks they post...
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                • obamaismyuncle
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-31-08
                  • 17801

                  #9
                  JJ seems to be proud to show his spreadsheet everyday, a spreadsheet where he's 35k in the red. I doubt he's really betting what he claims per game or if he's even betting any of them games at all. Tsoprano said that JJ would never bet more than $12 a game and mostly bet teasers, but all his play on his spreadsheet are for over $100 a bet..
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                  • iceminers26
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-13-08
                    • 15600

                    #10
                    You are correct Obama but what sets SBR apart from the other sites IMO is that they actually try to keep the books in line with player disputes and will jump to the aid of the player to make sure they don't get screwed out of payouts, misgrades, etc. by shady books. I cannot say the same for places like Covers who will just run and hide when you make a dispute about one of their advertised books, they are just flat out crooks and only look out for themselves, not the players.
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                    • Extra Innings
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-26-10
                      • 15058

                      #11
                      probably lose and win....lose everything and they lose because you are no longer playing.
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                      • Extra Innings
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-26-10
                        • 15058

                        #12
                        In terms of your conspiracy theory...I think your nutts
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                        • pavyracer
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 04-12-07
                          • 82872

                          #13
                          JJ is actually helping people win money. It's not a secret there is large following of posters who fade his spreadsheet religiously day after day.
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                          • AnotherLoan
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-21-08
                            • 2225

                            #14
                            JJ doesn't gamble. I'd be surprised if he makes 1% of the bets he claims he makes.
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                            • Bswitz32
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 07-24-09
                              • 460

                              #15
                              JJ is not really betting. He came up with a Fantasy Betting League and he is the only one....or I take that back.....there are many in that league..

                              BOL
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                              • obamaismyuncle
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-31-08
                                • 17801

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Bswitz32
                                JJ is not really betting. He came up with a Fantasy Betting League and he is the only one....or I take that back.....there are many in that league..

                                BOL

                                It would not surprise me if many many posters would get off filling out a spreadsheet with plays they didn't even actuallybet on.
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                                • pitman
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-15-09
                                  • 2216

                                  #17
                                  Why does rebate wager ask for your sbr name when signing up with them?
                                  Is part of it so they can do some research on you using the forum to get some info on you as a capper....
                                  I get the feeling that the majority of paid posters do not gamble, the emotions would/could get in the way of quality posting. I also get the feeling that some of these posters "tout" and pump up certain people with intent that they will get over-confident and then crash and burn.
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                                  • Ralphie1412
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-29-08
                                    • 13963

                                    #18
                                    I heard all it takes is 60-75,000 dollar bribe to get your banner up top.
                                    "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
                                    Goat Milk
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                                    • Naz18
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-10-09
                                      • 4277

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Ralphie1412
                                      I heard all it takes is 60-75,000 dollar bribe to get your banner up top.
                                      It's an advertisement....why would it be a bribe...
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                                      • Extra Innings
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-26-10
                                        • 15058

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Ralphie1412
                                        I heard all it takes is 60-75,000 dollar bribe to get your banner up top.

                                        That and a bag of cocaine
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                                        • pavyracer
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 04-12-07
                                          • 82872

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by pitman
                                          Why does rebate wager ask for your sbr name when signing up with them?
                                          Is part of it so they can do some research on you using the forum to get some info on you as a capper....
                                          I get the feeling that the majority of paid posters do not gamble, the emotions would/could get in the way of quality posting. I also get the feeling that some of these posters "tout" and pump up certain people with intent that they will get over-confident and then crash and burn.
                                          Do you really think JJ does any quality posting?
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                                          • THE PROFIT
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-27-09
                                            • 17701

                                            #22
                                            The books advertise here, the more traffic that the site has the more bargaining power John has with the books. Plain & simple. The books sponsor contests to give you free cash or freeplays to get your foot in the door at their book.

                                            The more new posters & traffic SBR has the more he can asks for from the books guys.

                                            It's just like newspaper advertising. Target audience & traffic
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                                            • pavyracer
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-12-07
                                              • 82872

                                              #23
                                              ^^^^

                                              Most of the money is made from affiliate income and not from advertising banners. This is why most new contests require you to open accounts from new sportbooks. A degenerate will lose for a lifetime because most bettors bet square plays like chalk ML's and overs.
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                                              • SBR_John
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 07-12-05
                                                • 16471

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by iceminers26
                                                You are correct Obama but what sets SBR apart from the other sites IMO is that they actually try to keep the books in line with player disputes and will jump to the aid of the player to make sure they don't get screwed out of payouts, misgrades, etc. by shady books. I cannot say the same for places like Covers who will just run and hide when you make a dispute about one of their advertised books, they are just flat out crooks and only look out for themselves, not the players.
                                                SBR has always planned for the long term. We have turned down the great deals that support other forums from books like Sportsbook.com, BetUS and SBG.

                                                There is no perfect model unless maybe a site was a non profit site and even then someone would be getting a salary. But SBR tries hard to provide the best rating system out there and entertaining content without pushing guys into dangerous books.

                                                Its all about the long term. How the Rx and Covers can get away with pushing SBG Global, Sportsbook.com, Lazerwager and the rest is beyond me. One thing is for sure, players wise up over time and eventually know those sites were sending guys to ripoff off books. In the long term I think that continues to benefit us.
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                                                • wantitall4moi
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-17-10
                                                  • 3063

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                  SBR has always planned for the long term. We have turned down the great deals that support other forums from books like Sportsbook.com, BetUS and SBG.

                                                  There is no perfect model unless maybe a site was a non profit site and even then someone would be getting a salary. But SBR tries hard to provide the best rating system out there and entertaining content without pushing guys into dangerous books.

                                                  Its all about the long term. How the Rx and Covers can get away with pushing SBG Global, Sportsbook.com, Lazerwager and the rest is beyond me. One thing is for sure, players wise up over time and eventually know those sites were sending guys to ripoff off books. In the long term I think that continues to benefit us.
                                                  Covers gets away with it because they have a lot of unique traffic. That site was THE site to go to for information, and in some cases probably still is. They have the typical ESPN crowd there, wannabe guys who learned everything they know about sports from watching ESPN, and think gambling might be fun. So they do some searches and end up at Covers some how. Where they are probably amazed at the info. Add that to some colorful posters and voila you have it.

                                                  Covers struck while the iron was hot, used what they had at their disposal and created a monster there. Not really sure what it is like now but for a couple years it was the best site around for info and one of the better forums. Then they simply let every tout scum and shit book known to man start advertising there. But I dont think it really hurt them because the posters there arent the 'saavy vets' that inhabit some of the other more well known forums.
                                                  Basically uneducated and newer gamblers will fall for the salesmen pitch at those types of places. if they lose they move on or figure its gambling you win some or lose some. That is another reason why the shittier books get a pass, because really how many forum degenerates bet in the first place? And then how many actually win/ And then how many actually win enough to make it difficult to pay?

                                                  People always scoff at the 'first time posters' who come to the forums to complain about a certain book that is slow paying them or no paying them, when the truth is they are more believable simply because they don't dwell in the forums and probably actually bet the games instead of just talking about them.
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                                                  • obamaismyuncle
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 12-31-08
                                                    • 17801

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by wantitall4moi
                                                    Covers gets away with it because they have a lot of unique traffic. That site was THE site to go to for information, and in some cases probably still is. They have the typical ESPN crowd there, wannabe guys who learned everything they know about sports from watching ESPN, and think gambling might be fun. So they do some searches and end up at Covers some how. Where they are probably amazed at the info. Add that to some colorful posters and voila you have it.

                                                    Covers struck while the iron was hot, used what they had at their disposal and created a monster there. Not really sure what it is like now but for a couple years it was the best site around for info and one of the better forums. Then they simply let every tout scum and shit book known to man start advertising there. But I dont think it really hurt them because the posters there arent the 'saavy vets' that inhabit some of the other more well known forums.
                                                    Basically uneducated and newer gamblers will fall for the salesmen pitch at those types of places. if they lose they move on or figure its gambling you win some or lose some. That is another reason why the shittier books get a pass, because really how many forum degenerates bet in the first place? And then how many actually win/ And then how many actually win enough to make it difficult to pay?

                                                    People always scoff at the 'first time posters' who come to the forums to complain about a certain book that is slow paying them or no paying them, when the truth is they are more believable simply because they don't dwell in the forums and probably actually bet the games instead of just talking about them.
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