Is TennisBabe a fake?

[Shortstop]

can someone explain to me real quick how someone can be "fake" or not? She has been putting out winning plays and has a good record but what makes her, "fake"? Thanks

6-1 is a great record, I agree with you, but so what?

However, when you lose over 16 units with that record, it kinda defeats the purpose, right?

The record doesn't mean a damn thing, it's the units that matter.

[2daBank]

can someone explain to me real quick how someone can be "fake" or not? She has been putting out winning plays and has a good record but what makes her, "fake"? Thanks

id say having a losing record with another username then changing that name is rather fraudulent but hey thats just me

[shari91]

Entering a thread that is titled "Is Tennis Babe a Tout?" and replying something to the effect of "we don't want you to go TennisBabe! Please stay!" under one username and then entering that same thread under the TB username and replying a little while later.

As I said, I'm not judging anyone or speculating to anyone's motivation behind doing something like this but there is definitely at least 2 accounts in use here. GUARANTEED.

And as long as people aren't betting crazy units to blindly tail those plays, especially in the NBA thread, then all should be okay for people I guess. I don't know.

[HenPrivilege]

That NBA ML thread is a joke. No one on SBR has a roll that large to play those games. I think it's 35 to win 5 tomorrow on the Cavs. Who does that kind of shit?

[shari91]

You know Hen, I wouldn't be surprised how many people will tail TB with a comparative amount of money with respect to their bankroll.

Maybe their bankroll is only $1k, but if they see TB is so confident in it, if they even wager $750 of their roll that'll be a lot to them.

That's the part that I think sucks. But that's not TB's fault. Just silly for people to do that to themselves to hopefully win so little.

[2daBank]

You know Hen, I wouldn't be surprised how many people will tail TB with a comparative amount of money with respect to their bankroll.

Maybe their bankroll is only $1k, but if they see TB is so confident in it, if they even wager $750 of their roll that'll be a lot to them.

That's the part that I think sucks. But that's not TB's fault. Just silly for people to do that to themselves to hopefully win so little.

slightly TB's fault as if TB is misrepresenting himself then he should shoulder some of the blame, however you cant fix stupid and if ppl think this person is so great and piss there money away blindly tailing, fuk it they deserve to be broke

[shari91]

I had just started to reply that I still didn't see how it was TB's fault as he's not asking anyone to tail. But something just dawned on me: If I was blindly tailing, or even just tailing for small amounts, which I have done in tennis when I didn't have a feel for either player and just wanted to make a bet because I'm a sick degenerate, I would want to know that this was the same person who had made those plays on the SuperBowl so I could make a better judgment on someone's methods and style of wagering.

And in actual fact, more than enough people have come in to this thread to give posters a heads up. Hell I'm even back in here because I honestly don't want anyone to make a stupid bet tomorrow based on that friggin idiotic Red Sox thread and since a lot of people know me from his MLB thread, I'm hoping they'll at least see my name in here and read what I have to say about it.

The NBA thread is bad enough and I had actually considered trialling TB's system until I saw the damn unit sizes. Some of the guys I really like on the forum took a major hit on the Suns when TB said they were doubling their play and that just sucks balls. Yes I know it's their fault but at least now I can say I've tried again to warn them to at least think about what they're doing before they bet Boston tomorrow.

[2daBank]

you cant help these ppl Shari as they see a 10 day hot streak (and that is what it was) and they are ready to crown that person the second coming of pretend jesus....

[2daBank]

I had just started to reply that I still didn't see how it was TB's fault as he's not asking anyone to tail. But something just dawned on me: If I was blindly tailing, or even just tailing for small amounts, which I have done in tennis when I didn't have a feel for either player and just wanted to make a bet because I'm a sick degenerate, I would want to know that this was the same person who had made those plays on the SuperBowl so I could make a better judgment on someone's methods and style of wagering.

And in actual fact, more than enough people have come in to this thread to give posters a heads up. Hell I'm even back in here because I honestly don't want anyone to make a stupid bet tomorrow based on that friggin idiotic Red Sox thread and since a lot of people know me from his MLB thread, I'm hoping they'll at least see my name in here and read what I have to say about it.

The NBA thread is bad enough and I had actually considered trialling TB's system until I saw the damn unit sizes. Some of the guys I really like on the forum took a major hit on the Suns when TB said they were doubling their play and that just sucks balls. Yes I know it's their fault but at least now I can say I've tried again to warn them to at least think about what they're doing before they bet Boston tomorrow.

id dont generally root for ppl to lose but i gotta say it would make me smile if the Rays win that game for a few reasons, it would be fun to see if TB keeps word (doubtful as im sure you will here some bs like due to everyone messaging me and begging me to stay ive decided to stay) or goes tout and tell ppl where they can find him(wouldnt surprise me), or third just change names again

[shari91]

id dont generally root for ppl to lose but i gotta say it would make me smile if the Rays win that game for a few reasons, it would be fun to see if TB keeps word (doubtful as im sure you will here some bs like due to everyone messaging me and begging me to stay ive decided to stay) or goes tout and tell ppl where they can find him(wouldnt surprise me), or third just change names again

That's what brought me back in here. That fukking Boston thread. I didn't say a word about the Suns play but that thread is seriously ridiculous.

What is someone's motivation for starting a thread with a title like that? The possibilities that I could come up with off the top of my head don't look too good at all.

It's not like you guys are coming into the MLB or tennis threads and bashing him in there. So I would suspect he has read this thread somehow, although I'm obviously not a mod and can't verify that. And if that's the case, then to post a thread like that knowing full well you have people that blindly tail you and 'know' how much you're wagering is just a shitty thing to do in my opinion.

At the end of the day I could post 20 clear examples of proof that TB and Agio are the same person based on things found on the forum alone, let alone the off forum stuff (which I would never bring into any discussion). But people will believe and do what they want to and at least I can say I tried. As have you and quite a few others so if the Rays win tomorrow, well fukk it. There's not much more we can do.

[PAULYPOKER]

Put it this way if all the tailing fukks were on their own they would be much worse off,why do you think they tail in the first placeSo if they are to lazy to do work fukkem they deserve to lose gambling is the most difficult business to succeed in, so nobody rides for free

[shari91]

Yep Pauly, you're right. I like some of those guys but it's their own fault if they get screwed tomorrow.

Now I'm just pissed off that I'm obviously going to be up until like 5am here when this damn game ends so I can see what happens.

[2daBank]

Put it this way if all the tailing fukks were on their own they would be much worse off,why do you think they tail in the first placeSo if they are to lazy to do work fukkem they deserve to lose gambling is the most difficult business to succeed in, so nobody rides for free

not necessarily as when a wanna be tout gets to the masses they breed false hope and encourage (intentional or not) ppl to start betting above there means ...you know me far as im concerned its survival of the fittest and the quicker these clowns go broke and stop spewing this "greatest capper ever" shit the better as it gives me a headache hearing someone who has proven very little being call the greatest thing since sliced bread.....

[2daBank]

Yep Pauly, you're right. I like some of those guys but it's their own fault if they get screwed tomorrow.

Now I'm just pissed off that I'm obviously going to be up until like 5am here when this damn game ends so I can see what happens.

beats what i got going on it is 4 here and i gotta go to work in a hour...couldnt sleep as my schedule is a little fukked up seeing how i havnt worked in 5 months, wish i didnt have to but the PO is gonna get pissy if i dont have a job when i go see her in a few weeks and for some reason she doesnt count gambling as a job

[Shortstop]

Hi Shari, my name is Shortstop, nice to meet you!

I noticed that you refer to tennisbabe as "he"

How do you know this?

[2daBank]

Hi Shari, my name is Shortstop, nice to meet you!

I noticed that you refer to tennisbabe as "he"

How do you know this?

lol, i used to say "it" referring to tennisthing but although Sheri has convinced me there are women out there that bet i have never seen a woman tout

[PAULYPOKER]

can someone explain to me real quick how someone can be "fake" or not? She has been putting out winning plays and has a good record but what makes her, "fake"? Thanks

Yes sir Short stop is 100% correct Check out my MLB my record is 50% so you would think I was in the minus because of the Juice right? I am up over 11X my base play because I use every tool I know to keep it this way

[shari91]

beats what i got going on it is 4 here and i gotta go to work in a hour...couldnt sleep as my schedule is a little fukked up seeing how i havnt worked in 5 months, wish i didnt have to but the PO is gonna get pissy if i dont have a job when i go see her in a few weeks and for some reason she doesnt count gambling as a job

Shit! Well, no point going to sleep at all now as that'll just screw you up more but I think you're in for one hell of a day.

I don't even want to admit this but the more I look at the Red Sox game, the more I like the Rays

[shari91]

Should've added, I'm not having a play on it though and I 100% sincerely hope I'm as fukking wrong as can be for the sake of those who tail. One dude in TB's MLB thread lost 75% of his bankroll today and I don't want to see him lose the other 25 on this damn game.

[2daBank]

i would bet the rays but i dont think there is a amount of money i could win that would make me happier than what i will be if they win anyway, better believe ill be checking the scores every chance i get...i actually like the under more than the game

[HenPrivilege]

Seems like that Red Sox thread is a hedge against the NBA ML thread.

Because the real laugher is the Cavs ML bet. Supposedly, thats a $35K bet.

If the Bulls win, I won't be surprised if TennisBabe disappears regardless of what happens to the Red Sox game.

[PAULYPOKER]

Should've added, I'm not having a play on it though and I 100% sincerely hope I'm as fukking wrong as can be for the sake of those who tail. One dude in TB's MLB thread lost 75% of his bankroll today and I don't want to see him lose the other 25 on this damn game.

The very first day I noticed TB:It was the Duke/Butler game she posted astronomical $ figures of what she had on the game and I was all over her for doing this and called her out and she just ignored me and every other post I called her out on she just Ignored me so this gave me my answer and this was she could not defend her self so I knew from the first second I saw her what she was about

[2daBank]

The very first day I noticed TB:It was the Duke/Butler game she posted astronomical $ figures of what she had on the game and I was all over her for doing this and called her out and she just ignored me and every other post I called her out on she just Ignored me so this gave me my answer and this was she could not defend her self so I knew from the first second I saw her what she was about

this is confusing to me Pauly as it seemed you were 1 of his biggest supporters, which kinda surprised me but i just to ignored it

[Shortstop]

Shari, please be kind and answer my question...

[PAULYPOKER]

this is confusing to me Pauly as it seemed you were 1 of his biggest supporters, which kinda surprised me but i just to ignored it

Bank always be true to yourself by watching your own back and never believe or trust what anybody says unless you know it is true yourself and you will never get hurt financially and emotionally mentally

[rumple]

She's a dude.

[PAULYPOKER]

this is confusing to me Pauly as it seemed you were 1 of his biggest supporters, which kinda surprised me but i just to ignored it

I was rooting her on but never tailed her, actually I made my first tail ever yesterday and it was a success only because I somewhat trust the guy

[PAULYPOKER]

She's a dude.

Not in my book if he wants to be a she well this is what he is

[shari91]

Hi Shari, my name is Shortstop, nice to meet you! I noticed that you refer to tennisbabe as "he" How do you know this?

Hey Shortstop! It's lovely to meet you too!!

There's a few reasons why I suspect TB is a male, not that it matters at all to me as I've said before because he's never outright said he's a female, but the main 2 are:

1. The "When Will TB Turn Tout" thread that Agios (TB) started.

Despite what some people on here think, I am in fact a woman who loves gambling and is actually somewhat decent at it. If I posted my picks every day for 6 months and was hitting 60% and so was a fellow male poster, who do you think people would buy picks from? And it's because of that that the thought of turning tout is not even in the top 10,000 thoughts in my head even when I've been on the hottest streak of my life. The simple fact remains: How many people are actually going to buy picks from a woman? Sad to say, but it's true. Maybe a few female gamblers would to support a fellow woman, and a few males for the novelty factor or just to try to track me to prove their point that women are shitty gamblers, but how much money would I actually make? Not much.

Touting isn't like poker. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks about Annie Duke's ability to play cards because she's a woman - when she wins, she's winning money from fellow players. Touting involves asking gamblers to put their faith in your abilities and pay you for the possibility of winning. Why buy picks from a woman, when everyone knows that women suck at gambling and there are more male gamblers than female gamblers, when there are so many men out there to buy from?

2. The writing style of Agios. Although there are many similarities in elements of the posts between the two and even phrases which are the exact same, there are also posts which lead me to believe it is a male writing them purely on the style alone.

I'm not Matlock so I'm not saying I'm right. But these are two of the things that have led me to believe that TB is in fact a he.

[Shortstop]

Thank you for your very thorough and complete answer. I appreciate it and enjoyed reading it!

[shari91]

I should also add it's quite advantageous for TB if people who don't come to other parts of the forum and solely hang out in his thread think he's a she. When he loses, even after betting big, how many of his followers have you seen bashing him?

I'm sorry but LB has taken a beating in his thread from people who pop in for one play and lose as ridiculous as that is. Why isn't this happening to TB? Or if it is, it's not happening vocally. Obviously I can't speak about what's being PM'ed to him so I'm unsure as to that. But look at LB's record vs TB's as far as longetivity is concerned. And blind tailers were freaking out at him in his thread when they lost ONE play. Why hasn't this happened to TB?

[shari91]

Thank you for your very thorough and complete answer. I appreciate it and enjoyed reading it!

The more thorough I am, the less chance I have of getting in shit and having people put words into my mouth. And you're welcome.

[2daBank]

I should also add it's quite advantageous for TB if people who don't come to other parts of the forum and solely hang out in his thread think he's a she. When he loses, even after betting big, how many of his followers have you seen bashing him?

I'm sorry but LB has taken a beating in his thread from people who pop in for one play and lose as ridiculous as that is. Why isn't this happening to TB? Or if it is, it's not happening vocally. Obviously I can't speak about what's being PM'ed to him so I'm unsure as to that. But look at LB's record vs TB's as far as longetivity is concerned. And blind tailers were freaking out at him in his thread when they lost ONE play. Why hasn't this happened to TB?

dont worry Shari a few more losing days and it wont matter what the fuk he is the bashing will come, ppl who worship a capper are always quick to turn when then losing comes

[PAULYPOKER]

I should also add it's quite advantageous for TB if people who don't come to other parts of the forum and solely hang out in his thread think he's a she. When he loses, even after betting big, how many of his followers have you seen bashing him? I'm sorry but LB has taken a beating in his thread from people who pop in for one play and lose as ridiculous as that is. Why isn't this happening to TB? Or if it is, it's not happening vocally. Obviously I can't speak about what's being PM'ed to him so I'm unsure as to that. But look at LB's record vs TB's as far as longetivity is concerned. And blind tailers were freaking out at him in his thread when they lost ONE play. Why hasn't this happened to TB?

Well he/she just started losing and the bashing has just begun trust me it will get worse but you are right it is against mans nature to attack a female

[shari91]

Yep, I think the bashing will begin but I think quite a few people will be willing to ignore the losses and keep tailing partly because of the female factor.

It's fascinating to me really - I came from modding a pregnancy forum and dealing with the quirks of some crazy women (and men) to now hanging out a lot the past couple of weeks in a gambling forum and getting the chance to study how guys work. So different in some aspects but so much the same as well.