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  • cleaveland
    SBR MVP
    • 04-04-10
    • 1559

    #1
    What has America become?
    Representative Ron Paul gave the following speech on the floor of the House. As I read it I asked myself, "What has America become?" Maybe you can tell me.

    Speaker.
    My Topic For This Evening Is Now Assassinations.
    When We Have Allowed Ourselves To Become?
    Are We No Longer A Nation Of Laws?
    Have We Become Instead A Nation Of Men Who Make Secret Arrests?
    Are Secret Prisons Now Simply Another Tool Of The Federal Government Law Enforcement?
    Is Secret Rendition Of Individuals Now Permitted Out Of Misplaced Fear?
    Have We Decided That The Writ Of Habeas Corpus Is Not Worth Extending?
    Is Torture Now An Acceptable Tool For Making Us Safe?
    Unfortunately, The Single Answer To All Of These Questions From The Leaders Of Our Country And To Many Of Our Citizens Appears To Be Yes.
    And Now We Are Told That Assassination Of Foreigners As Well As American Citizens Is Legitimate And Necessary To Provide Security For Our People.
    It Is My Firm Opinion That Nothing Could Be Further From The Truth.
    Secret Arrests, Secret Renditions, Torture And Assassinations Are Illegal Under Both Domestic And International Law.
    Be Anathema To The Constitutional Republic.
    The Real Threat Doesn't Arise From Our Failure To Torture But Rather Desense Advertising Our Nation To The Neglect Of Our Civil Liberties Fought And Died For Over The Centuries Is The Threat.
    The Concept Of Habeas Corpus Existed Before King John Was Forced In 1215 By His Rebellious Barons To Sign The Mag In A Carter.
    This Expression Of Individual Liberty Which Has Survived 800 Years Greatly Influenced The Writing Of Our Constitution And Our Common Law Heritage.
    Today, We Hardly Hear A Whimper From The American People Or Our Government As Our Cherished Liberties Are Eradicated.
    Instead, We Have A Government That Deliberately Or Contest Traits Needless Fear And Makes People Insecure Enough To Ignore Of Their Lost Liberties.
    The Latest Outrage Is The Current Tration's Acknowledgement That We Now Have A Policy That Permits Assassination, Not Only Of Foreign Suspects, But Of American Citizens As Well.
    Of Course, The Cia Has Used Secret Assassinations In A Limited Fashion For Decades Despite International And Moral Law.
    When Done Secretly As Done In The Past, Our Government Recognized That Assassination Was Illegal And Wrong.
    Frightingly, The Policy Is Now Explicit.
    National Intelligence Director, Dennis Blair, In Open Testimony Before The House Intelligence Committee On February 3 Of This Year, Acknowledged That American Citizens Can, Indeed, Be Assassinated At Our Government's Discretion.
    Attempted To Assassinate Al-Waki And This Was Secret And He Doesn't Deserve Individual Rights And Some Unknown Individual In The Administration Has The Authority To Declare Him A Threat And Therefore A Legitimate Target For Assassination.
    Yes, I Know, He Is Probably A Very Bad Person.
    Yes, I Know That Only A Few Persons Are On The Assassination Hit Lit.
    I Know That Artificially Generated Fear Makes A Large Number Of Americans Inclined To Applaud This Effort That Will Make Us Safe.
    If This Becomes Standard Operating Procedure And A Permanent Precedent Is Established, Let Me Assure You That This Abuse Of The Law Will Spread.
    It's Time For Congress And The American People To Wake Up To The Realities Of The Dangers We Face.
    We Must Remember As Members Of Congress That We Have Taken An Oath To Protect And Defend The Constitution From All Enemies, Foreign And Domestic.
    It Should Not Be That Difficult To Distinguish The Danger Betweenen Underwear Bomber And A Government That Favors Assassinating American Citizens.
    And I Yield Back The Balance Of My Time.
    Now we have to ask the questions like this...

    Was political activist and former state Sen. Nancy Schaefer killed by the USA government?



    She was fighting to change the system. If the USA government thinks you're a threat for any reason they reserve the right to kill you.

    There's not even a pretense to the right to life, liberty, or any rights at all.
  • Flying Dutchman
    SBR MVP
    • 05-17-09
    • 2467

    #2
    Up until the last several years, folks around the world looked up to you guys.

    ...but after you elected that war criminal W and turned your government over to a bunch of Plutocrats, you are losing "market share" to China. They too run an autocratic regime but a much better economy.

    ...and they have yet to destroy everyone else's economy like you guys have.

    ...not to mention they don't start wars over a few trumped up charges about terrorists.

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    • PittsburghPlayer
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-11-10
      • 6760

      #3
      Always like reading/hearing a point of view other than a fellow Americans Dutchman. Thanks. The song "Last Straw" (check it out) by Marrilion came to mind upon reading this thread. GL Men, we all need it.
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      • MilfDriller
        Restricted User
        • 11-23-08
        • 10186

        #4
        The true end came after MLK. That's when the US started to lose it's backbone and the way was lost.
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        • OmgUrMom
          Restricted User
          • 02-07-10
          • 8481

          #5
          i would post my opinion but im afraid the govt will put me on the list

          I've said too much already
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          • THE PROFIT
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-27-09
            • 17701

            #6
            The US government has been assisinating foreign heads of state for years. The US government uses you until you are no longer needed or become a liability, ex:Hussein & Noreiga. Although the government just put Noreiga in prison & gave Saddam a fair trial before hanging LoL!!!

            Noreiga had been on the payroll of the CIA for years headed up by CIA director George H.W. Bush, so its kinda hard to kill a co-worker I suppose.

            As far as assassinating American citizens, that's been going on longer. But bringing it out in the open, very dangerous!
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            • OmgUrMom
              Restricted User
              • 02-07-10
              • 8481

              #7
              It's not very dangerous when the majority of the public will not believe it anyways, the only ones who are going to believe it are the ones who already did.
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              • MilfDriller
                Restricted User
                • 11-23-08
                • 10186

                #8
                We do all this, yet we let the ****s run free in our own country. Kill them and you make a better planet.
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                • Sawyer
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-01-09
                  • 7761

                  #9
                  I have a sempathy for US but not for the US government/politics..
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                  • tltaylor89
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 06-19-09
                    • 19610

                    #10
                    US needs to pay their credit card bill.
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                    • INVEGA MAN
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                      • 01-30-08
                      • 6807

                      #11
                      Unreal
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                      • Flying Dutchman
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-17-09
                        • 2467

                        #12
                        Damn, I thought I'd get a fight from some of you guys over my post.

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                        • DrStale
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 12-07-08
                          • 9692

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Flying Dutchman
                          Damn, I thought I'd get a fight from some of you guys over my post.
                          You would really only piss off the right-wing Bible thumpers with what you wrote, and you used too many big words for them to understand what you said, so you're safe.

                          Ron Paul = Smart
                          Originally posted by Dark Horse
                          If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                          • THE PROFIT
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-27-09
                            • 17701

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DrStale
                            You would really only piss off the right-wing Bible thumpers with what you wrote, and you used too many big words for them to understand what you said, so you're safe.

                            Ron Paul = Smart
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                            • Flying Dutchman
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-17-09
                              • 2467

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DrStale
                              You would really only piss off the right-wing Bible thumpers with what you wrote, and you used too many big words for them to understand what you said, so you're safe.

                              Ron Paul = Smart
                              What a difference a year makes. Last year anything I said would bring out the wingnuts to fight. Now everyone either agrees with...or ignores me.

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                              • MilfDriller
                                Restricted User
                                • 11-23-08
                                • 10186

                                #16
                                Ah, who cares? The real question is... Does she have to wear a plastic bag on her head?
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                                • milwaukee mike
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 08-22-07
                                  • 26914

                                  #17
                                  ron paul is awesome. most sensible people know he is right, even if they can't get past their own brainwashing that it's a good idea to waste all our money blowing up sand halfway around the world...
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