Curious: How did NCAA overtake and make NIT an also ran tourney?

gafl · 03-31-10, 08:07 PM

If the Ncaa expands next year to 96 teams, won't be much left for the NIT. Colleges used to be able to play in both tournaments. CCNY is the only college to win both tournaments in the same year. Then came the point shaving scandal and the end of major college basketball for CCNY.

MilfDriller · 03-31-10, 08:10 PM

I don't know about the 96 teams idea.

Why not just Obama-ize the whole tournament and let every team in.

I mean, 65 is a lot of teams. If you put in 96, basically you're putting everybody in.

If you go 96, why not put 128?

LT Profits · 03-31-10, 08:22 PM

Well with 96, they'd keep the same number of date that they have now, except that there would be a lot of games on what is now play-in Tuesday.

gafl · 03-31-10, 08:24 PM

I think 65 is too many. But money and greed will win out. Funny that the NCAA wants to raise the number of teams in basketball, but doesn't want a football playoff. Guess the bowl set up is too lucrative.

Unicorn7 · 03-31-10, 08:25 PM

nit final tomorrow night. looking forward to it

MilfDriller · 03-31-10, 08:27 PM

college bowls are the gayest thing in the universe

let's vote on our national champion...

guhhhh --- hayyyyyy

Chi_archie · 03-31-10, 08:29 PM

96 is the worst idea ever...

sooooo interesting how the ncaa is ALL ABOUT tinkering somthing NO ONE complains about

but they'll never think about messing with the BCS

the answer is all about M_O_N_E_Y

pavyracer · 03-31-10, 08:31 PM

They need to downsize to 48 not increase to 96. 16 of the teams who get in now are below average.

Chi_archie · 03-31-10, 08:38 PM

never had more parity

but I still don't agree with 96

seaborneq · 04-03-10, 04:26 PM

NIT is DOA.

rm18 · 04-03-10, 04:45 PM

I do not like how this affects the bracket contests, now you have only one day to fill out, or 96 team bracket is whoreshit.

hoopster42 · 04-03-10, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by MilfDriller

I don't know about the 96 teams idea.

Why not just Obama-ize the whole tournament and let every team in.

I mean, 65 is a lot of teams. If you put in 96, basically you're putting everybody in.

If you go 96, why not put 128?

because there are NEVER 128 teams worthy of dancing in march, but there ARE 96.
simple answer to your simple question.

iceminers26 · 04-03-10, 05:38 PM

Seaborneq

Funny how there is 12 posts after your initial post and no one has came even close to answering your question. I personally do not know the answer to your question but I do know back in the day that teams could pick which tournament they wanted to compete in out of the ncaa tournament and the NIT and in I think the late 60s is when the Bruins choose the NCAA and dominated if for several years. This could perhaps be the reason or how it overtook the NIT, not sure on if this was a reason or not, but could have been.

seaborneq · 04-03-10, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by iceminers26

Seaborneq

Funny how there is 12 posts after your initial post and no one has came even close to answering your question. I personally do not know the answer to your question but I do know back in the day that teams could pick which tournament they wanted to compete in out of the ncaa tournament and the NIT and in I think the late 60s is when the Bruins choose the NCAA and dominated if for several years. This could perhaps be the reason or how it overtook the NIT, not sure on if this was a reason or not, but could have been.

I am used to seeing threads get high jacked after the intial post. I hope someone will add a little more to the gafl answer in the upcoming posts. You are oh so correct not having the confident secure answer, but I am happy for the efforts nonetheless.

LLXC · 04-03-10, 06:11 PM

I like the 68 team idea...with 4 play in games.

hhsilver · 04-03-10, 06:13 PM

Iceminer, thanks for bringing it back to the original post - an interesting topic. I know that the NIT was a much bigger deal in the 50s and earlier. Wiki has a detailed piece about the history. I just skimmed it - but those interested can read it in detail.

I did see in the article the Marquette a top 10 team turned down the NCAA for the NIT in 1970. McGuire was mad about the NCAA region they were put in.

big joe 1212 · 04-03-10, 06:19 PM

now # 97, 98 ,99 etc. will be crying on how they didnt get in!