you ignorant Americans that hate Futbol

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

When I think of soccer and how Americans view it, I think of the NHL and all the rule changes they implemented over the past couple seasons to boost up scoring and satisfy the needs of the offensive minded Americans. The NHL is still fun to watch but boy did they ever hurt the game with these stupid touch penalty calls that produce tons on PPs which more often that not leads to high scoring games. You cannot clutch and grab anymore and rarely do you the see the good old 1-2, 2-1 type games. The EPL is in a league by itself IMO and maybe Americans just view soccer from an MLS standpoint which isn't saying much because the league blows but hopefully with the World Cup coming up this year that the sport will grow in areas of the world where it hasn't fared to well in the past.

excellent post. the sport of hockey has quickly been ruined by overreactions from the league front office and their catering to the soccer mom crowd while ignoring the fanbase.

Yo Statnerds, I think the reasons that soccer or futball just ain't ever going to cut it in the states is:

While I'm sure the action doesn't technically stop, not every player is "playing" all the time.

like baseball.

Yo Statnerds, I think the reasons that soccer or futball just ain't ever going to cut it in the states is:

There isn't enough physical contact or violence, not including the bored fans in the stands.

like baseball also. weird, ain't it?

[Lincoln73]

Soccer can be difficult to enjoy if you don't understand the nuances of the game.

[RageWizard]

Good points Bruce, but I guess when you add in the no breaks in timekeeping, and the total lack of scoring, yeah I know that baseball can go all day with a 1 nothing score, but still usually there is some scoring in baseball as well.

Wait actually no, I am not going to defend a sport that I also think sucks as well. I don't watch the Baseball, and in reality I think I have watched more soccer in the last year than baseball.

What I really want to see is the awesome sport of Kaiju Big Battle get its chance in the states with more respect.

[2daBank]

im not trying to take a shot at soccer personally i dont like it but to each is own im only taking shots at the two fukkin idiots that are claiming ppl are ignorant because they dont enjoy the same sport that they do

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

im not trying to take a shot at soccer personally i dont like it but to each is own im only taking shots at the two fukkin idiots that are claiming ppl are ignorant because they dont enjoy the same sport that they do

check you first post in this thread-you come in clamoring that footy is a gay euro sport (the biggest inexplicable BS american stereotype) and then you're trying to say that we're the ignorant ones?

that's rich!

[2daBank]

check you first post in this thread-you come in clamoring that footy is a gay euro sport (the biggest inexplicable BS american stereotype) and then you're trying to say that we're the ignorant ones?

that's rich!

initial reaction to ignorant trash...yes you are clearly ignorant and continue to prove it, nice work

[jjgold]

Soccer is growing yearly in usa, lots of euro games now on usa tv live

ESPN also realizes it

[LT Profits]

I enjoy soccer a lot more than NBA, and the Barcelona/Arsenal game was as a great one with Arsenal coming back from down 2-0 to tie it in 86th minute.

[LT Profits]

Soccer can be difficult to enjoy if you don't understand the nuances of the game.

Just like baseball. Weird, ain't it.

[Jonah]

I don't mind soccer, or I like watching the World Cup because the rest of the world is so into...But Soccer is so random, seems to have a lot of luck involved, or should I say one team can be virtually dominant and not win, guys cry about nothing(and get rewarded for it), Very Un-American in a lot of ways....or maybe used to be....

[pavyracer]

I don't mind soccer, or I like watching the World Cup because the rest of the world is so into...But Soccer is so random, seems to have a lot of luck involved, or should I say one team can be virtually dominant and not win, guys cry about nothing(and get rewarded for it), Very Un-American in a lot of ways....or maybe used to be....

Have you ever watched baseball? Talk about crying on balls and strikes. And yes you can leave the bench in baseball and give a mouthful to the umpires without any repercussions. Try to do that in soccer.

[pronk]

People don't realize that the entire team of Brazil, Argentina, Spain or England has a payroll equal to the Yankees if added per individual player for his club salary. So when you are saying the US has a chance to win the World Cup is like saying the Royals have a chance to win the World Series with a 30 million payroll.

Some soccer stars make more dough than entire Yankee team. Check transfermarkt.

[WileOut]

Those who want to play soccer here get abused physically. They get bullied by the real athletes in the most athletic country in the world (check the Olympic medals).

I played soccer for a few years and averaged about 4 goals a game. I dominated completely, then it was time to move on to more athletic sports and play with the big boys.

[WileOut]

I did enjoy playing though. I was too fast though I hated the offsides penalty, it is the worst penalty in all of sports.

[pavyracer]

Those who want to play soccer here get abused physically. They get bullied by the real athletes in the most athletic country in the world (check the Olympic medals).

I played soccer for a few years and averaged about 4 goals a game. I dominated completely, then it was time to move on to more athletic sports and play with the big boys.

I was an average soccer player when I was growing up. But when I started playing in the States I was dominating. The talent pool here is weak compared to other places.

[Melkiavez]

I hate soccer

[statnerds]

i never played the game, but used to kick around the ball here and there, pick up kind of stuff. used to play with a friend from Ghana and he just did some sick stuff with the ball, but was also humble enough to admit he was nowhere near good enough to play professionally. played into his late teens but the talent just gets better and better as he advanced.

anyway, i tried and i did learn some things. so when you see guys moving full speed taking a 50 yards pass moving at like 30 mph and just deaden the ball, sick. and for me, the one guy i was really impressed with of late is Ronaldinho trying to earn a spot with Brazil for WC. that is the one guy i would suggest Americans definitely watch. like he has velcro on his foot sometimes, just absolutely sick dribbling skills.

[statnerds]

like this: about 1:20 in, one of the sickest move you will ever see



and about 4:50 into this one, the NBA would call it an ankle-breaker



and he was awesome in losing to Man U 3-2 first leg UEFA this year.

[INVEGA MAN]

the only good thing about this game is when the fans want to kill each other.

[WileOut]

I was an average soccer player when I was growing up. But when I started playing in the States I was dominating. The talent pool here is weak compared to other places.

Yes I agree, talent pool is weak here. That is because football, baseball, basketball, and maybe even tennis come before soccer in terms of what the best athletes play. Hell, maybe even sports like surfing and swimming are more popular than soccer here in USA.

[Karayilan9]

I agree with you, but sometime in the future conceivably it could happen. I'm pretty sure that soccer ain't ever getting popular here in the states, so the odds are eventually it will happen. Hell I think we are actually getting better over time, who knows in another 50 years, we may have a chance.

Soccer/football is more than just a game, alot of the MLS teams these days have chairman who understand the game well and know the fanaticism the sport can bring will spread like wild fire once it catches alight. I know of a few ultra leaders these clubs have bought in, these soccer generals will create armies of loyal supporters who create a sports culture that is not found in current US sports culture.

JJGold
Soccer is growing yearly in usa, lots of euro games now on usa tv live

ESPN also realizes it

JJ buy an MLS team or set one up, now is the time to get involved, you'll be a legend.

I can picture it now, the JJ Newarks

[RageWizard]

As I was watching the Manchester against somebody over the weekend on ESPN in the morning while I get ready for the U.S sports, I was wonderen.

If the offsides penalty is called when a player gets behind a defender with out the ball he is offsides right. Does the rule actually say that a player can not be in front of the ball if the player doesn't have possesion? It can't be that easy, all you would have to do is not retreat when you get the ball down to the other end or near your goal. If you keep all the people up, then the goallie or someone else will have to kick the ball and a race would ensue. So the stragety could be to get the fastest bastard you can find and play like this. This can't be right, but someone tell me where play like this can't happen.

[Dunder]

As I was watching the Manchester against somebody over the weekend on ESPN in the morning while I get ready for the U.S sports, I was wonderen.

If the offsides penalty is called when a player gets behind a defender with out the ball he is offsides right. Does the rule actually say that a player can not be in front of the ball if the player doesn't have possesion? It can't be that easy, all you would have to do is not retreat when you get the ball down to the other end or near your goal. If you keep all the people up, then the goallie or someone else will have to kick the ball and a race would ensue. So the stragety could be to get the fastest bastard you can find and play like this. This can't be right, but someone tell me where play like this can't happen.

You cannot be offside if you are in your own half or if you start a run from your own half at the time a forward pass is played to you.

[RageWizard]

So, I can be barely in my half of the field, then have some dude whale the ball down the field at the same time I just bolt toward the goal, and that is legal right. It doesn't matter if I get to where the ball is going to be before the ball gets there?

[jayc88]

you should have watched the manu / bayern munich game ealier today,
down 0-3 munich came back to lose only by one goal and advance to the semis , great game
there isnt any sport which comes close to soccer and i give a shit if americans enjoy it or not ,

[RageWizard]

We just don't care for it. I think that the international football / futball / soccer exchange has been a failure so far. Everybody else around the world doesn't get the NFL or its rulebook that rivals an encyclopedia, and the U.S. just doesn't like a sport with such a low scoring outcome as a typical outcome with no breaks so we can safely get a beer out of the frig.

[Dunder]

So, I can be barely in my half of the field, then have some dude whale the ball down the field at the same time I just bolt toward the goal, and that is legal right. It doesn't matter if I get to where the ball is going to be before the ball gets there?

Yes that would be legal.

As a tactic however it doesn't work well. The others teams' central defenders pretty much always stay back to cover this sort of thing - playing you onside even if you are in the attacking half.

[blueghost]

always take the under in SOCCER not football and statnerd..canadians like football too.. not futbal

[Sawyer]

I think American Sports are far more entertaining then soccer. Soccer can be boring sometimes, specially if it's 0-0 for a long time

[mikey360]

God I hate soccer/football, it just bores me to tears, I got roped into going to a match once at Anfield (Liverpool) and it was just soo tedious, here in England its by far the most popular sport but there are still alot of people who don't like it.

For me there is just too much back and forth as players pass back and forth back and forth for much of the game, then when something does happen it just ends with someone kicking it way back down the field.

I find MLB the best as even though it can be quiet for awhile it can suddenly explode, seeing someone homer with bases loaded is just far more exciting than anything in soccer.

[pavyracer]

We just don't care for it. I think that the international football / futball / soccer exchange has been a failure so far. Everybody else around the world doesn't get the NFL or its rulebook that rivals an encyclopedia, and the U.S. just doesn't like a sport with such a low scoring outcome as a typical outcome with no breaks so we can safely get a beer out of the frig.

What would a typical score be in NFL if the touchdown worth 1 point and the FG 1/2 a point? If soccer made goals scored worth 6 points like the NFL does would more people watch it?

A typical NFL game has a score of 21-17 which is equivalent to a 3-2 game in soccer in terms of actual scores. You think NFL is high scoring because they award 7 points for a goal (they call it touchdown).

[RageWizard]

What would a typical score be in NFL if the touchdown worth 1 point and the FG 1/2 a point? If soccer made goals scored worth 6 points like the NFL does would more people watch it?

A typical NFL game has a score of 21-17 which is equivalent to a 3-2 game in soccer in terms of actual scores. You think NFL is high scoring because they award 7 points for a goal (they call it touchdown).

Well I guess your argument would be more valid if they actually had a couple of ways to score in soccer. Maybe give a 0.25 point award for a corner kick, and a 0.1 point for a yellow card going against your foe.

And 3-2 game is a high scoring game in soccer as far as I can tell. You don't catch many 7-0, 7-3, 10-7 games in the NFL, most of even the suck teams can manage to score twice in an average game, either a field goal, or a touchdown.

[statnerds]

God I hate soccer/football, it just bores me to tears, I got roped into going to a match once at Anfield (Liverpool) and it was just soo tedious, here in England its by far the most popular sport but there are still alot of people who don't like it.
I find MLB the best as even though it can be quiet for awhile it can suddenly explode, seeing someone homer with bases loaded is just far more exciting than anything in soccer.

you should have gone to Camp Nou to witness you first game ever, except for the part where it's hundreds of miles away. anyway, 98,000+ capacity.

i will not argue that there are shitty games, but c'mon. the Nationals (59 wins) played the Pirates (62 wins) 8 times LY. 8 fukkin times.

back to Camp Nou, Barca founded in 1899. never been relegated from La Liga. it is more than just a team or just a game to their fans. toss in Real Madrid and it is on motherfukkers. take the red sox vs yankees and times it by 100. and then add another 1 million. if red sox lose a regular season game, so what? if Barca would lose to Xerez, the world would implode for Barca fans. i'm talking suicides and death threats to the coach.

how the fukk does MLB have the World Series? okay, at least some teams are in Canada (just one now?), but futbol has national teams. nothing like the WC. as many people around the world watch the drawing for the WC as watch the Superbowl.

UEFA CL

[G's pks]

[flyingillini]

I think that Soccer is by far the most exciting sport in the world. It is also my favorite sport to bet on.