life after death?

[HAPPY BOY]

Not too many people are Atheists on their deathbeds.

thats why I admire my uncle. He developed colon cancer and on his death bed they asked him if he wanted last rights with a priest. He said "If there is a God why did he give me this aweful illness F**K him" the man was never religious and didn't sell out. He died the next day.

[HAPPY BOY]

life is energy, and energy does not just disappear!

100% correct. You turn to carbon dust and fuel the earth.

[THE PROFIT]

good for him

[THE PROFIT]

exactly, oil is called fossil fuel for a reason

[JohnGalt2341]

So for my 1000th post on this Wagering website - how bout Pascal's Wager? In the seventeenth century the mathematician Blaise Pascal formulated his infamous pragmatic argument for belief in God in Pensées. The argument runs as follows: If you erroneously believe in God, you lose nothing (assuming that death is the absolute end), whereas if you correctly believe in God, you gain everything (eternal bliss). But if you correctly disbelieve in God, you gain nothing (death ends all), whereas if you erroneously disbelieve in God, you lose everything (eternal damnation). Gamblers, what do you have to gain/lose by believing in eternal Life? How would you like to hedge?

Pascal's Wager is a F'n joke on so many levels. First off, you are assuming that everyone that believes in God is going to Heaven. Do you really think that "God" can't tell the difference between phonies and good people? Last time I checked, over 99% of the U.S. prison population believes in God. On the other hand people like Bill Gates who is an Atheist and has donated more money to charity than any Christian in the history of mankind is going to hell? If that's the case I'd rather go to hell. It's no coincidence that countries with lowest percentage of Atheists have the the most crime. However, countries like Norway and Sweden that have a high percentage of Atheists have very little crime. It's is so unf'nbelievably obvious that the more a region believes in God the more crime ridden and poverty stricken and not to mention the more uneducated they are that I can't believe that no one has had the balls to publicly state this obvious fact yet. Show me a region that is highly religious and I will show you a a region that is poor with lots of crime. Show me a region with a high percentage of Atheists and I will show you a region that is well educated that has very little crime. Am I wrong?

[wtf]

hell is where are the FUN People are

[20Four7]

I have seen a ghost...... scared the shit out of me even tho I knew the person.......

[DwightShrute]

so then I would have to ask...

do you believe that what you do while you are alive effects what happens to you when you die?

If you are a pedophile, murderer or a nice person, doesn't matter? same result?

[midnight777]

for me I think there is something after this.. what it is who knows... i hope my sould goes somewhere other than in the dirt...

[Team Ramrod]

alot of you people need help

[THE PROFIT]

so then I would have to ask...

do you believe that what you do while you are alive effects what happens to you when you die?

If you are a pedophile, murderer or a nice person, doesn't matter? same result?

when you're dead you're dead, so no, what you do when you're alive has no effect on your death. BUT, what you do while you're alive will make you be talked about by the living as either

"I miss him, he was a good guy" or "I'm glad that coksuker is dead"

dead is dead!

Now, on the other hand, if you believe in the supernatural & zombie dieties & purgatory, what you do while you're alive makes a difference.

But if you have to be promised something more after your life to be good & do goodwill toward your human race, what a sad fukin piece of shit you are IMO!

[THE PROFIT]

for me I think there is something after this.. what it is who knows... i hope my sould goes somewhere other than in the dirt...

I've always wanted someone to explain with a bit of intelligence what your fukin soul is. And why is it more important than the "soul" of that cow I just ate last night. Oh, yeah, nothing else living, even species that we evolved from, have souls. God gave us souls. Get a clue about your societies creation story.

[DwightShrute]

when you're dead you're dead, so no, what you do when you're alive has no effect on your death. BUT, what you do while you're alive will make you be talked about by the living as either

"I miss him, he was a good guy" or "I'm glad that coksuker is dead"

dead is dead!

Now, on the other hand, if you believe in the supernatural & zombie dieties & purgatory, what you do while you're alive makes a difference.

But if you have to be promised something more after your life to be good & do goodwill toward your human race, what a sad fukin piece of shit you are IMO!

I feel kinda intimidated discussing this with THE PROFIT to be honest.

Having said that, I just don't know if you can say that with a 100% certainty.

I can't know 100% either way. There are great points to consider for both sides of the question.

[Dunamus]

Remember what it was like before you were born? Yep, that's what it'll be like when you die.

[THE PROFIT]

I feel kinda intimidated discussing this with THE PROFIT to be honest.

Having said that, I just don't know if you can say that with a 100% certainty is my only contribution to the post. I can't know 100% either way. There are great points to consider for both sides of the question.

Dwight, if you'll read my first post in this thread that's exactly what I said. It is something that no one CAN know 100% with 100% certainty. That's why you have to use a little common sense and quit relying on "magic".

Religion many moons ago hijacked this uncertainty of the one thing that no man has the answer to. Where did we come from & where are we going? You can't ask the people who were here before us & you can't ask the people who are gone, so there is no 100% certainty.

There are alot of things in this world I am uncertain of. But I dont listen to someone who claims they know for sure when in reality they know no more than I do. What I'm saying is no one knows, but the church manipulates you by telling you they know.

I compare them to a tout. A tout has no more idea who wins a fukin game than you do, but you'll pay them & follow them blindly because you don't want the hassle of trying to figure it out & asking the tough questions to find which team has the edge.
The tout will tell you for a fee they will tell you with 100% certainty who wins!

[DwightShrute]

Dwight, if you'll read my first post in this thread that's exactly what I said. It is something that no one CAN know 100% with 100% certainty. That's why you have to use a little common sense and quit relying on "magic".

Religion many moons ago hijacked this uncertainty of the one thing that no man has the answer to. Where did we come from & where are we going? You can't ask the people who were here before us & you can't ask the people who are gone, so there is no 100% certainty.

There are alot of things in this world I am uncertain of. But I dont listen to someone who claims they know for sure when in reality they know no more than I do. What I'm saying is no one knows, but the church manipulates you by telling you they know.

I compare them to a tout. A tout has no more idea who wins a fukin game than you do, but you'll pay them & follow them blindly because you don't want the hassle of trying to figure it out & asking the tough questions to find which team has the edge.
The tout will tell you for a fee they will tell you with 100% certainty who wins!

I remember your first post and don't get me wrong, I am not saying that you personally are 100% sure. You just seem more certain based on your posts.

Cheers,

[THE PROFIT]

I'm intelligent Dwight, book smart & street smart. I make decisions based on deductive reasoning. I don't believe in the supernatural. If it can be proven I would. So until something is proven I don't buy into it, especially when it's the craziest fukin turn of events ever, like all religions creation stories. They are just that, stories. But some people base their life around around a crazy story and to me that's, well, crazy as fuk. But to each their own. I just keep my distance & find it hard to trust or interact with people who have crazy thoughts rollin' around in their head. They scare me and should scare you.

[DwightShrute]

I'm intelligent Dwight, book smart & street smart. I make decisions based on deductive reasoning. I don't believe in the supernatural. If it can be proven I would. So until something is proven I don't buy into it, especially when it's the craziest fukin turn of events ever, like all religions creation stories. They are just that, stories. But some people base their life around around a crazy story and to me that's, well, crazy as fuk. But to each their own. I just keep my distance & find it hard to trust or interact with people who have crazy thoughts rollin' around in their head. They scare me and should scare you.

I am agnostic. Very open about this subject but doubt I will ever be convinced either way.

[ProfaneReality]

Pick up "Life After Death: The Burden of Proof" by Deepak Chopra... very interesting read.

[THE PROFIT]

I like Chopra

[DwightShrute]

Pick up "Life After Death: The Burden of Proof" by Deepak Chopra... very interesting read.

ya I heard that was a great read.

Nice avatar btw!

[THE PROFIT]

do you post under that name at other forums Dwight? Im sure its a popular poster name, just wondering

[DwightShrute]

do you post under that name at other forums Dwight? Im sure its a popular poster name, just wondering

definitely not


maybe in a previous life (had to)

[THE PROFIT]

just wondering, I know there's a guy on another gambling forum with name, just wondered if it was you

[bettilimbroke999]

I dont get what difference it makes, I mean what is religion in this country like an hour a week of listening to some cornball jokes by the pastor and everybody pitches in a couple bucks, hey it satisfies a need, nobody wants to be told they're not going to exist shortly so they BS ya for 5 or 10 bucks a week (or 50 cents if you happen to be an SBR poster), ppl pay 100s of dollars a session to have a psychologist cheer em up, nothin wrong with tippin the pastor a fiver for makin ya feel special

[THE PROFIT]

alot of people dont just take it casually like you're saying though. People really believe this crazy shit & will kill you over it

[bettilimbroke999]

Id just tell em I believe in whatever they say, no need to die for my belief in nothing, nothing is not going to be offended by my instant religious conversion

Buddha, Jesus, Allash whatever, if some religious nut has a gun to my head Im buyin whatever they're sellin, they could tell me a giant frog is gonna come down in a spaceship and Id be like fuk yea Kermit's gonna save us all