Tebow's Wonderlic

[statnerds]

A bible thumper with a low IQ... ya don't say.....

and every irish guy is drunk right now, every black man is either in jail or just not caught yet, every mexican is here illegally, every capper is a crook...

you got any other stereotypes we should live our lives by?

ass

[stealthyburrito]

Jesus helped him on the field but i guess not in the classroom
Doesn't matter either way, he'll be getting millions, dumbass or not

[statnerds]

why is it just Tebow's score that got leaked?

why is everyone bashing his religion, cause if his name was akbar muhammed omar muslimguy, you fukkers wouldn't say a word about Allah...hypocritical douchebag fukks

what would have Terry Bradshaw have scored on it? 4

1, 3, 4, 2 countin these Rings Bitch

1:04 if you want to fast forward:



we messin up ourselves and blamin the white man - O'Shea Jackson

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[Jonah]

Educated and well composed kid with the heart of a champion...You guys have seen enough life - or watched enough movies, I imagine - to know that his type of warrior and beastly qualities most often do not go hand in hand with high a high IQ...If you want that, go sign Joey Harrington.

[Enogsiwon]

If you guys cant tell this guy is half retarded by his interviews you are probably slow yourself

[Jonah]

I'm not saying QB's don't need to be smart, obviously it is an asset to many: Aikman, Steve Young, Manning just to name a few, but not every QB needs to be, or is the same. You got your Favre's, Roth's, Bradshaw's in there too. You know what kind of player Tebow is... He is not heady or mechanical - get over it...
This holds true in many areas of life as well. There are tons of successful businessmen who you would not typically describe as "smart," but they have other qualities that allowed them to achieve their goals. Ugly guys, get hot girls. People with "bad" voices become Rockstars. It's about taking what you have and squeezing it for all it's worth.

[Andy117]

The Wonderlic seems kinda useless as a predictor of nfl success.

[Jonah]

I heard less intelligent people have a higher tolerance for pain, or feel it less intensely. Bateman, is this true?

[wal66]

How smart do you have to be to throw a ball? What do they need like Einstein out there doin equations, I would actually think intelligence would hold u back in football, when a 400 pounder is runnin full force at you a smart guy might panic and worry that his career is about to end while an idiot would deliver the pass and get cremated and wake up in the hospital having won the game

Think about Colt McCoy, he made a smart intelligent decision not to risk injury, result his team lost

There are many things in life I thought I would never do and complimenting a post by bettilimbroke is one of them but credit is given when credit is due and this one was pretty spot on.

[DeluxeLiner]

tebow studies football like a crazy person according to reports from last season football. since he didn't have much class he hung out with urban all the time studying tape.

[fedtpels]

We need dumbasses in the NFL. Makes it more interesting.

[ijrod21i]

How smart do you have to be to throw a ball? What do they need like Einstein out there doin equations, I would actually think intelligence would hold u back in football, when a 400 pounder is runnin full force at you a smart guy might panic and worry that his career is about to end while an idiot would deliver the pass and get cremated and wake up in the hospital having won the game

Think about Colt McCoy, he made a smart intelligent decision not to risk injury, result his team lost

So you're calling Manning, Brady, Brees, Fitzpatrick (Harvard grad) stupid because they don't panic "when a 400 pounder is runnin full force at you" or worry that their career is going to end during a play?

[AMBlai01]

The Wonderlic seems kinda useless as a predictor of nfl success.

Well that is not true. Yes there are exceptions to the rule (i.e. Dan Marino) but for the most part the wonderlic is a very good indicator especially when it comes to QBs. If this test meant nothing and didn't tell these teams anything, don't you think they would abandon it?

The NFL is a multi-billion dollar industry and scouting costs these teams millions. If the teams didn't want the players to take the test at the combine it wouldn't be required. Is it a perfect analysis of a player, absolutely not, but nothing is until you put that player on the field in an NFL game situation. I would think that teams use the wonderlic with QBs as a gauge for how well they will absorb the material and the systems within the NFL.

To say the score is meaningless, is foolish. To say the score is everything, is foolish. All things are considered when evaluating these players and this is just one little bit.

[G's pks]

Vince Young got 6 on his test!
Vince is stoooopid!

[G's pks]

I heard less intelligent people have a higher tolerance for pain, or feel it less intensely. Bateman, is this true?

[bettilimbroke999]

So you're calling Manning, Brady, Brees, Fitzpatrick (Harvard grad) stupid because they don't panic "when a 400 pounder is runnin full force at you" or worry that their career is going to end during a play?

Manning is an idiot yes, hey Im a huge Manning fan but I aint askin him to tutor me in calculus Im askin him to throw a ball

Brady is an idiot yes, Giselle may be the brains of the couple and that's pretty sad

Brees seems like an idiot though Ive only seen him on TV a few times so I cant say for sure, the media just doesn't spend much time on Brees for some reason, there's high school QBs with more media exposure than Brees

Fitzpatrick has no talent and probably a higher Wunderlic score than his QB rating, so indeed he may be a genius and after the Bills let him go he can go teach at Harvard

Edit: Just looked up notable wunderlic scores out of curiousity, Fitzpatrick got a 48, Peyton a 28 and Dan Marino a 16, intelligence doesn't exactly translate well to bein a good QB, an idiot with an arm is worth 10x as much as a genius with that throws like shit in the NFL

[bettilimbroke999]

There are many things in life I thought I would never do and complimenting a post by bettilimbroke is one of them but credit is given when credit is due and this one was pretty spot on.

Thank you wal

Heil Hitler! (just kidding)

[jetsjets1028]

eh tebow wont be that great

[stealthyburrito]

Fitzpatrick has no talent and probably a higher Wunderlic score than his QB rating, so indeed he may be a genius and after the Bills let him go he can go teach at Harvard

Fitz scored a perfect on it, but as a qb he is still trash

[ijrod21i]

Manning is an idiot yes, hey Im a huge Manning fan but I aint askin him to tutor me in calculus Im askin him to throw a ball

Brady is an idiot yes, Giselle may be the brains of the couple and that's pretty sad

Brees seems like an idiot though Ive only seen him on TV a few times so I cant say for sure, the media just doesn't spend much time on Brees for some reason, there's high school QBs with more media exposure than Brees

Fitzpatrick has no talent and probably a higher Wunderlic score than his QB rating, so indeed he may be a genius and after the Bills let him go he can go teach at Harvard

Edit: Just looked up notable wunderlic scores out of curiousity, Fitzpatrick got a 48, Peyton a 28 and Dan Marino a 16, intelligence doesn't exactly translate well to bein a good QB, an idiot with an arm is worth 10x as much as a genius with that throws like shit in the NFL

So by your extremely twisted and faulty logic, one is only a genius if he is good at math? You've referenced Einstein once already and now say that Manning isn't a genius because he can't school you in calculus. What evidence has Tom Brady shown you that he is an "idiot" you know, other than being successful at one of the most demanding jobs in the entire world. There's a reason QB's and NFL players in general get paid so much, because the average person is not capable of their thought processes and thus is not capable at being successful at their line of work. You say Brees seems like an idiot to you? This coming from a man who finds it worth mentioning that Tiger Woods would be just an average man if not for his golfing career? What kind of mind is that? What a waste of the most powerful muscle in the body, to think that things aren't as they are. Jamarcus Russell is an idiot with an arm. How's he doing? You think Bradshaw would stand a chance in today's game? Today's safeties would read him like a book. You obviously have no understanding of what it takes to be an NFL quarterback and thus could never understand the difficulty of the job. If you could only understand basic economics, you'd be able to comprehend the ability neccessary to be a successful NFL quarterback.

[bettilimbroke999]

Jamarcus Russell is an idiot with an arm. How's he doing? You think Bradshaw would stand a chance in today's game? Today's safeties would read him like a book. You obviously have no understanding of what it takes to be an NFL quarterback and thus could never understand the difficulty of the job. If you could only understand basic economics, you'd be able to comprehend the ability neccessary to be a successful NFL quarterback.

If Jamarcus Russell could aim hed be a great QB, he does have the ability to throw the ball a long distance just no ability to hit a receiver (at least not on his own team), which is why he sucks at QB

Marino scored a 16 which translates to a below average IQ, would you take Fitzpatrick over Marino in his prime just bc hes smarter? If intelligence is such a key factor at QB why is Marino so good and Fitzpatrick so bad, these are pro athletes which means they have physical skills thats why they make 20 mil a year to demonstrate those physical skills, in actuality they're not even really skills bc what good does being able to throw or catch a ball do you, nothing, its simply a pointless but entertaining thing to watch, but watching the fastest or best throwing monkeys play has nothing to do with intelligence, I'll take a moron Marino over a genius Fitzpatrick anyday of the week

[ijrod21i]

If Jamarcus Russell could aim hed be a great QB, he does have the ability to throw the ball a long distance just no ability to hit a receiver (at least not on his own team), which is why he sucks at QB

Marino scored a 16 which translates to a below average IQ, would you take Fitzpatrick over Marino in his prime just bc hes smarter? If intelligence is such a key factor at QB why is Marino so good and Fitzpatrick so bad, these are pro athletes which means they have physical skills thats why they make 20 mil a year to demonstrate those physical skills, in actuality they're not even really skills bc what good does being able to throw or catch a ball do you, nothing, its simply a pointless thing to watch, so its more just like a physical show than it is skills but watching the monkeys that run the fastest or throw the best does not indicate intelligence but a physical talent

I'm sort of busy so I don't have time to read your entire post but let me just say, what is it to aim? It is to be able to properly read the defense, understand the coverage and to know where your receivers are going to be or in other words, intelligence.

[stealthyburrito]

There's a reason QB's and NFL players in general get paid so much, because the average person is not capable of their thought processes and thus is not capable at being successful at their line of work. You say Brees seems like an idiot to you? This coming from a man who finds it worth mentioning that Tiger Woods would be just an average man if not for his golfing career? What kind of mind is that? What a waste of the most powerful muscle in the body, to think that things aren't as they are. Jamarcus Russell is an idiot with an arm. How's he doing?

you're confusing hard work with intelligence, they are not the same

How do you Jmarc is not intelligent? he's been criticized for being a lazy asshole moreso than anything else

[ijrod21i]

If Jamarcus Russell could aim hed be a great QB, he does have the ability to throw the ball a long distance just no ability to hit a receiver (at least not on his own team), which is why he sucks at QB

Marino scored a 16 which translates to a below average IQ, would you take Fitzpatrick over Marino in his prime just bc hes smarter? If intelligence is such a key factor at QB why is Marino so good and Fitzpatrick so bad, these are pro athletes which means they have physical skills thats why they make 20 mil a year to demonstrate those physical skills, in actuality they're not even really skills bc what good does being able to throw or catch a ball do you, nothing, its simply a pointless but entertaining thing to watch, so its more just like a physical show than it is skills but watching the monkeys that run the fastest or throw the best does not indicate intelligence but a physical talent

I read more so i'm going to respond again. What good does being able to be the ceo of a fortune 500 company do you? By your logic, athletes should be worthy of the most praise of any other job in our society because above all in terms of survivability, the greatest skill is to be able to hunt and gather. Hunting and gathering is what these athletes would be best at due to their obvious athleticism.

[ijrod21i]

If Jamarcus Russell could aim hed be a great QB, he does have the ability to throw the ball a long distance just no ability to hit a receiver (at least not on his own team), which is why he sucks at QB

Marino scored a 16 which translates to a below average IQ, would you take Fitzpatrick over Marino in his prime just bc hes smarter? If intelligence is such a key factor at QB why is Marino so good and Fitzpatrick so bad, these are pro athletes which means they have physical skills thats why they make 20 mil a year to demonstrate those physical skills, in actuality they're not even really skills bc what good does being able to throw or catch a ball do you, nothing, its simply a pointless but entertaining thing to watch, but watching the fastest or best throwing monkeys play has nothing to do with intelligence, I'll take a moron Marino over a genius Fitzpatrick anyday of the week

This argument if you will at the end of the day is pointless. Pointless mostly because I cannot change your opinion and you cannot change mine. What makes matters even more difficult is the fact that in one of your previous posts (i'm not stalking you, we just post on a lot of the same threads) you said and I quote "What is a savior anyways?". Obviously you should just google it and come up with your own thoughts on just what a savior is. Not being able to understand the concept of any religion leads me to believe that you are a very simple, a person who's opinion could never be changed due to a lack of understanding. That being said, i'm going to get in a few more shots and then hopefully stay away from this thread unless you really entice me to do otherwise. There's no way you're pulling in over 40k a year and you should really go finish high school.

[ijrod21i]

you're confusing hard work with intelligence, they are not the same

How do you Jmarc is not intelligent? he's been criticized for being a lazy asshole moreso than anything else

Isn't hard work intelligence because the hard worker knows that he must do more to achieve the same level of success as his peers? Also, you dismissed your comment by stating "How do you Jmarc". That sentence makes no sense.

[bettilimbroke999]

I read more so i'm going to respond again. What good does being able to be the ceo of a fortune 500 company do you? By your logic, athletes should be worthy of the most praise of any other job in our society because above all in terms of survivability, the greatest skill is to be able to hunt and gather. Hunting and gathering is what these athletes would be best at due to their obvious athleticism.

If this were 5000 BC perhaps you're right but hunting and gathering is not really a valuable skill nowadays, you can go into the woods and stalk game and live in the trees with those skills but you would have a much better life in today's world just sitting behind a desk doing more intellectual work than physical, today's physical jobs like landscaping, janitorial etc that these guys would be superior at with their skills tend to be among the lowest paying

[bettilimbroke999]

This argument if you will at the end of the day is pointless. Pointless mostly because I cannot change your opinion and you cannot change mine. What makes matters even more difficult is the fact that in one of your previous posts (i'm not stalking you, we just post on a lot of the same threads) you said and I quote "What is a savior anyways?". Obviously you should just google it and come up with your own thoughts on just what a savior is. Not being able to understand the concept of any religion leads me to believe that you are a very simple, a person who's opinion could never be changed due to a lack of understanding. That being said, i'm going to get in a few more shots and then hopefully stay away from this thread unless you really entice me to do otherwise. There's no way you're pulling in over 40k a year and you should really go finish high school.

You sound like an arrogant jackass that is hardheaded and ignorant

The saying often wrong but never in doubt comes to mind

In any event go ahead and take Fitzpatrick in Fantasy football and good luck to ya, youll have the most intelligent QB so you're a lock

[poochiecollins]

All they had to do is look at his belief in God and figure out what a moron the guy is.

Partly true, partly false. There is an appreciably correlation between religious belief and intelligence, but not enough where it should be assumed that a highly religious person is dumb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religio...belief_and_I.Q.

[poochiecollins]

How smart do you have to be to throw a ball? What do they need like Einstein out there doin equations, I would actually think intelligence would hold u back in football, when a 400 pounder is runnin full force at you a smart guy might panic and worry that his career is about to end while an idiot would deliver the pass and get cremated and wake up in the hospital having won the game

No. An intelligent person would think of the risks verses corresponding rewards. Remember Payton Manning falling down and taking the loss instead of letting an unblocked lineman knock him around when the playoff game was mostly decided?

[poochiecollins]

Manning is an idiot yes, hey Im a huge Manning fan but I aint askin him to tutor me in calculus Im askin him to throw a ball Brady is an idiot yes, Giselle may be the brains of the couple and that's pretty sad Brees seems like an idiot though Ive only seen him on TV a few times so I cant say for sure, the media just doesn't spend much time on Brees for some reason, there's high school QBs with more media exposure than Brees Fitzpatrick has no talent and probably a higher Wunderlic score than his QB rating, so indeed he may be a genius and after the Bills let him go he can go teach at Harvard Edit: Just looked up notable wunderlic scores out of curiousity, Fitzpatrick got a 48, Peyton a 28 and Dan Marino a 16, intelligence doesn't exactly translate well to bein a good QB, an idiot with an arm is worth 10x as much as a genius with that throws like shit in the NFL

You're not one to be calling people idiots. I'll leave it at that.

[poochiecollins]

In my observation, the Wonderlic isn't that useful of a success predictor. I read somewhere that linemen, interestingly enough, had the highest average scores (might have just been offensive). I'd have assumed quarterback, of course. I never played organized football, so I can only take educated guesses at how important intelligence is at a certain position, but it seems intelligence isn't terribly important at QB, or not the type the Wonderlic measures.

I made all these consecutive posts so that it's easier for people to quote and reply btw, not to be lazy.

[stealthyburrito]

Isn't hard work intelligence because the hard worker knows that he must do more to achieve the same level of success as his peers? Also, you dismissed your comment by stating "How do you Jmarc". That sentence makes no sense.

my b i dont proof read my posts meant to put in "how do you know"

glad the grammar police is on patrol

[eidolon]

bet is correct. Higher intelligence would lead to them not wanting to get hurt. Just look at the position of the only person to score a perfect score: a punter.