Why do many people cry about using a crap book? os

bigboydan · 10-19-07, 04:12 AM

Come on fellas... I was hoping to get some sleep tonight, but thats not going to happen now.

BAUS · 10-19-07, 04:14 AM

I will discuss this matter tomorrow. Bonne nuit les garcons.

BAUS

raiders72002 · 10-19-07, 04:14 AM

BAUS- Why would you limit yourself to just asking Roberto?

tacomax · 10-19-07, 04:15 AM

Another 2 posters who got stiffed at PTS with no bail-out:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/6449-looking-help-defunct-playthescore-account.html

raiders72002 · 10-19-07, 04:17 AM

BAUS- You have nothing to discuss. Whether you were owed a dime or 50 dimes you never said a word to me.

You went to Dan and he took care of it. Lots of people made good coin at PTS.

tacomax · 10-19-07, 04:19 AM

Originally posted by Bill Dozer

Remember the thread Raiders started introducing PlayTheScore? A classic from the start.

"New sportsbook opens up playthescore. Anyone know anything about them?"

Of course, the staff including CS Mgr. Omar was from the old ASAP who Raiders worked with and knew well. Once the player got to the site Raiders' name could be found in the drop down as the referral. Classic forum scam.

raiders72002 · 10-19-07, 04:21 AM

TACO- Read what he said. He signed an exclusive with TOW. He didn't go to the guy at OGD (me). What don't you understand?

I was in contact with Roberto from the offshore wire, who assured me my case would be taken care of. He was able to arrange bailouts for some players, but kept on saying that my case was still in the works. This was aggravating since he had asked for my promise to only use him as a source of help (as it appears he and a poster on offshoregamblersdigest were both trying to help and were exchanging heated words) and I did say I wanted his representation.

tacomax · 10-19-07, 04:21 AM

Originally posted by TOW

The tout later admitted that he had been aware of the status of financial distress for at least two weeks prior to PTS becoming officially insolvent on June 22nd. He also admitted his vested interest in the operation and his attempts to be first in line to collect his own earnings from the failed operation.

raiders72002 · 10-19-07, 04:23 AM

Dozer doesn't know what he's talking about because he never personally backs a book like I do.

If you used me in the drop down you got paid.

Taco- Go away. You don't even play at these books but you pretend that you know something.

tacomax · 10-19-07, 04:24 AM

Originally posted by raiders72002

TACO- Read what he said. He signed an exclusive with TOW. He didn't go to the guy at OGD (me). What don't you understand?

What about the other 2 posters I linked to - did you sort them out? Did you also sort out the hundreds and hundreds of people who got stiffed by BetOnSports (yet another scam book you pimped)?

tacomax · 10-19-07, 04:27 AM

Originally posted by raiders72002

Dozer doesn't know what he's talking about because he never personally backs a book like I do.

Bill Dozer doesn't know what he's talking about? Your IQ is most definitely negatively correlated with the number of chins you have.

Originally posted by raiders72002

Taco- Go away. You don't even play at these books but you pretend that you know something.

You're right. I don't sign up to books that are pimped by scammers. What are you going to do? Sue me.

raiders72002 · 10-19-07, 04:29 AM

Taco- Read it again. They went to Roberto who bailed them out to BooktheBet that's run out of a cigar shop in the Chicago area. I sure hope that Roberto didn't realize this. I will not reply to any of your further posts since they have no substance.

bigboydan · 10-19-07, 04:32 AM

Originally posted by raiders72002

BAUS- You have nothing to discuss. Whether you were owed a dime or 50 dimes you never said a word to me.

You went to Dan and he took care of it. Lots of people made good coin at PTS.

The only thing I got out of that whole mess Raiders was headaches and the loss of coin, because I took care of that bailout stuff on my own time due to the fact it was not part of my job description here at SBR.

tacomax · 10-19-07, 04:32 AM

You're not going to reply to your total and utter embarrassment over BetOnSports? To be honest, if I was a scammer like you then I'd prefer to sweep that one under the carpet.

raiders72002 · 10-19-07, 04:37 AM

The only thing I got out of that whole mess Raiders was headaches and the loss of coin, because I took care of that bailout stuff on my own time due to the fact it was not part of my job description here at SBR.

I'm sure that wasn't an easy one. It does feel good to help though. Karma

bigboydan · 10-19-07, 05:14 AM

Finally it's calm down for the night. Now maybe I can get some sleep.

jjgold · 10-19-07, 06:10 AM

Guys that play at bad books deserved to be stiffed.

HedgeHog · 10-19-07, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Guys that play at bad books deserved to be stiffed.

People that shill for bad books deserve a worse fate. Are we agreed?

raiders72002 · 10-19-07, 04:27 PM

How do you know that a book is bad? SBR shilled for PanAM and that turned out to be one of the worst stiff jobs.

If you promote a book then you make sure that the players get paid. You never know what book will go down next.

tacomax · 10-19-07, 04:29 PM

When jjgold had his very short-lived "forum" he had banner adverts by the following books:

RichCoastSports
BetOnSports
BetOnStars

All those folded and ended up stiffing the players.

Nothing like pushing players to a crap book and laughing at them when they get stiffed, is there?

SBR_John · 10-20-07, 06:19 AM

Raiders BetPanAm only reached a high of B+, Cascade would have been a better example.

But there is a difference in a site giving an honest rating and a guy soliciting players to a book where they are intentionally over stating the worthyness of the book.

Thats where we crossed swords with BOS, RichCoast, PTS and I guess others.

But all is good. You were trying to earn money and a guy doesn't start with a Pinnacle or a CRIS. I actually recommended a book GoldenBets that wasnt any better than any of the ones you did. I learned under fire, took my lumps. You are still in the taking your lumps stage. Keep your chin up.

raiders72002 · 10-20-07, 10:13 AM

SBRJohn- At least you realize that I never intentionally led players to the slaughter and did my best if there were problems. BTW, I have no desire to own a forum again. Too much crap.

SBR_John · 10-20-07, 10:36 AM

I do understand because I was a newbie is this racket too one time.

If we had the luxury of hindsight we would have both done things different. I tried to warn roberto if you recall. You got unlucky that you put your time and energy on the wrong horses.

Take another shot down the field one of these days when you can. You got the energy and grit, just need a good plan.

raiders72002 · 10-20-07, 11:19 AM

Thanks