What a disaster for Toyota

pavyracer · 03-09-10, 11:22 AM

Buy German cars. Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Porche, VW are the best engineered cars in the world.

Extra Innings · 03-09-10, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Buy German cars. Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Porche, VW are the best engineered cars in the world.

Can't argue with you....my first car was a 320i (1981)....rusted out before it broke down.

FishFace5 · 03-09-10, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by Extra Innings

Can't argue with you....my first car was a 320i (1981)....rusted out before it broke down.

Great cars.
Just hopefully you never have to fix em. Hardest cars to work on. All Germans must have tiny hands.

FishFace5 · 03-09-10, 11:40 AM

Toyota should just close up shop.

DeluxeLiner · 03-09-10, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by FishFace5

Toyota should just close up shop.

LOL... I think Honda will take a hit because of Toyota. Look at the mentality of this thread putting down all Asian cars even though it's just one company.

Tsoprano · 03-09-10, 11:45 AM

Even Lexus is taking a hit as they have cars made with Toyota parts

scarp · 03-09-10, 11:46 AM

Come on, Ford has all of these recalls and the media does nothing. Ford has produced many cars that were recalled because they were starting on fire and burning houses down. I'm honestly not a fan of Toyota, but it is being blown out of proportion.

stealthyburrito · 03-09-10, 11:47 AM

fukk toyota, car just got recalled for this horseshit

Extra Innings · 03-09-10, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by scarp

Come on, Ford has all of these recalls and the media does nothing. Ford has produced many cars that were recalled because they were starting on fire and burning houses down. I'm honestly not a fan of Toyota, but it is being blown out of proportion.

The United States owns GM

FishFace5 · 03-09-10, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by scarp

Come on, Ford has all of these recalls and the media does nothing. Ford has produced many cars that were recalled because they were starting on fire and burning houses down. I'm honestly not a fan of Toyota, but it is being blown out of proportion.

Blown out of proportion????
Cars are basically driving themselves. Several deaths have occurred!!!
How bout the fact Toyota has no plan for the recalls.
Blown out of proportion u say?????

FishFace5 · 03-09-10, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by DeluxeLiner

LOL... I think Honda will take a hit because of Toyota. Look at the mentality of this thread putting down all Asian cars even though it's just one company.

Nobody has mentioned anything about any other Japanese companies except for you.

Extra Innings · 03-09-10, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by FishFace5

Blown out of proportion????
Cars are basically driving themselves. Several deaths have occurred!!!
How bout the fact Toyota has no plan for the recalls.
Blown out of proportion u say?????

Yes Sir....don't even have to post that 911 call ... family wiped out in seconds because of Toyota's stupidity. Design a car that brakes when you press the brake

Boner_18 · 03-09-10, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by FishFace5

Blown out of proportion????
Cars are basically driving themselves. Several deaths have occurred!!!
How bout the fact Toyota has no plan for the recalls.
Blown out of proportion u say?????

Several deaths!?!? OMG!! How many? I think the total is at 3.

You know 115 people die in an automobile accident every day, that is one every 13 minutes.

Needless to say I agree that the situation is a little blown out of proportion.

Extra Innings · 03-09-10, 11:54 AM

Documents prove Toyota concealed evidence, lawyer says

By Steve Gorman

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A House panel on Thursday subpoenaed confidential company documents that a former Toyota lawyer has said prove the automaker routinely concealed evidence from the courts and federal regulators, a committee staffer said.

The subpoena was issued as part of an investigation by the House of Representatives Oversight Committee into Toyota Motor Corp's response to complaints of uncontrolled engine acceleration that led to a global recall of more than 8 million vehicles, Kurt Bardella, a committee staff spokesman, told Reuters.

Dimitrios Biller, who headed a corporate legal team that defended Toyota in rollover-accident lawsuits, took some 6,000 internal documents with him when he left Toyota in 2007, and has since sued the automaker under U.S. racketeering laws.

He has said the documents support his allegations that the company systematically hid or destroyed legal evidence that would have led to costly trials in the United States.

The committee's subpoena was accepted by Biller's lawyer on behalf of his client, "and obviously they intend to comply," Bardella said. The subpoena states that the documents must be turned over by 5 p.m. on February 23, the day before the oversight panel is scheduled to hold a hearing on the Toyota recalls.

"The committee is conducting a comprehensive, fact-based investigation with the intent of collecting and analyzing as much relevant information as possible," committee chairman Edolphus Towns and the panel's top-ranking Republican, Rep. Darrell Issa, said in a joint statement following issuance of the subpoena.

"The only way we can ensure that the safety needs of American drivers are being met is to examine, in a bipartisan fashion, exactly who knew what and when, and if appropriate and immediate action was taken to mitigate any danger to the American public," the statement said.

The subpoena came hours after the committee issued a letter formally asking Toyota's president, Akio Toyoda, the grandson of the company's founder, to testify before the panel.

(Editing by Matthew Lewis)

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Willie Bee · 03-09-10, 11:55 AM

Has anyone broken down how many of the faulty vehicles were at least partially assembled in the US? Just a thought, I mean, far be it from me to suggest that Detroit might be trying to deflect some attention away from US automobile manufacturers who are in hock up to their eyeballs.

Extra Innings · 03-09-10, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

Has anyone broken down how many of the faulty vehicles were at least partially assembled in the US? Just a thought, I mean, far be it from me to suggest that Detroit might be trying to deflect some attention away from US automobile manufacturers who are in hock up to their eyeballs.

Not that I know anything but management and design has to be based out of Japan. They reveled in their ability to mass produce and cut corners.

FishFace5 · 03-09-10, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by Boner_18

Several deaths!?!? OMG!! How many? I think the total is at 3. You know 115 people die in an automobile accident every day, that is one every 13 minutes. Needless to say I agree that the situation is a little blown out of proportion.

I'm not about to start doing internet research to check into how many people died but I would guess its more than 3.
They have MILLIONS of cars on recall.
There was an article on yahoo today about a run away prius. Guess it doesnt matter though cause nobody died.
How bout how Toyota basically has no plan. They dont even know how to fix the damn cars.
You guys are right though no biggie. Go buy Toyota

, you'll be fine.....

DeluxeLiner · 03-09-10, 11:58 AM

Nothing better than a cover up to the media, it makes them feel like muckrakers of the early 1900s.

fsugolf · 03-09-10, 12:05 PM

The worst part about it imo is that they knew they were cutting corners to save money

eidolon · 03-09-10, 12:09 PM

I see you are eating up what is being shoved down your throats.

james4512 · 03-09-10, 12:13 PM

my first car was a bmw and it was the best car i ever own except for the fact once it 100k in miles it cost an arm and a leg to maintain it, i now have an acura tsx which is ok the interior is mint but the handling and the overall driving experience isnt the same. Im getting a new car in october and im leaning toward an infinite g37x maybe a lexus is250 but possibly a bmw i want the 335 but that might but just out of my price range

pavyracer · 03-09-10, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by james4512

my first car was a bmw and it was the best car i ever own except for the fact once it 100k in miles it cost an arm and a leg to maintain it, i now have an acura tsx which is ok the interior is mint but the handling and the overall driving experience isnt the same. Im getting a new car in october and im leaning toward an infinite g37x maybe a lexus is250 but possibly a bmw i want the 335 but that might but just out of my price range

Need to save up some points before you save up for a bmw 335.

maersksealand · 03-09-10, 12:18 PM

GM recalled few days ago 1.5M cars to fix some steering problems. The news was barely mentioned half a day...on the other hand are 2 months in the row since Toyota is daily on the front line of every news outlet...something is not right.

Obviously the Toyota scandal is a very well orchestrated attack, maybe is the US Gov. response to the Japanese request of US troops withdraw from Japan...this Toyota scandal is an open war, the US Gov. are out to get them and I see no economic gain for the US car companies because the buyers will move towards Honda, Subaru or Hyundai...you won't see a Toyota potential buyer going to buy an american car.

Anyway, this scandal have nothing to do with safety...is about much more, I have no clue what, but this scandal won't be possible without the US Gov. direct involvement...I think Toyota is used to leverage something between the JAP and US Govs.

Extra Innings · 03-09-10, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by james4512

my first car was a bmw and it was the best car i ever own except for the fact once it 100k in miles it cost an arm and a leg to maintain it, i now have an acura tsx which is ok the interior is mint but the handling and the overall driving experience isnt the same. Im getting a new car in october and im leaning toward an infinite g37x maybe a lexus is250 but possibly a bmw i want the 335 but that might but just out of my price range

solid selections. I have a "high performance" vehicle. Once it hit 70k anything over 100 mph is like riding a vibrator (not that I would know what that is like)

stealthyburrito · 03-09-10, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

Has anyone broken down how many of the faulty vehicles were at least partially assembled in the US? Just a thought, I mean, far be it from me to suggest that Detroit might be trying to deflect some attention away from US automobile manufacturers who are in hock up to their eyeballs.

You're right on, Toyotas manufactured in Japan are not subject to recall, yet the cars manufactured in the states, with American made parts, are the ones affected by this

bettilimbroke999 · 03-09-10, 01:04 PM

I drive a Toyota, havent noticed any problems, I think its just the brand new models they tried to redesign the braking system and apparently it didnt workout too well

THE PROFIT · 03-09-10, 01:09 PM

Toyota took the whole getting into NASCAR thing to the extreme. Next big recall will be people getting killed because their Toyota won't turn to the right!!!

***What a disaster for Toyota***

What a disaster for Toyota