[stevenash]

What this is is nothing more than a political shake down.
Plain and simple.
Once the AG saw the ledger of FanDuel and DraftKing they were all "we want a piece of this"
If those two fantasy sites were making chump change, this would be a non story.

Now if for instance the heads of FanDuel and the heads of the Attorney General's office were to meet behind closed doors and agree to a hypothetical, say 20 percent tax on profits to be paid to NY state, how fast do you think the AG's office make a public statement along the lines of something like this "Our bad, we thought this was gambling, but this is a game of skill, carry on business as usual"?

[yisman]

fanduel is organizing a protest in front of the AG's office

7:45 AM tomorrow

http://click.fanduelmail.com/?qs=d21...76ab7589efd0e4



What: Fantasy for All Rally

When: Friday, November 13th
7:45 a.m.

Where: 120 Broadway
New York, NY 10271

[The Giant]

fanduel is organizing a protest in front of the AG's office

7:45 AM tomorrow

http://click.fanduelmail.com/?qs=d21...76ab7589efd0e4



What: Fantasy for All Rally

When: Friday, November 13th
7:45 a.m.

Where: 120 Broadway
New York, NY 10271

I expect you to be there marching, yisman.

[stevenash]

^
If they shut the fantasy sites down, I'll live, I like to play there, but I'll live.
The hypocricy here is New York State has no problem running keno games in bars which is a total dart throw but finds DFS not a game of skill which it clearly is.

[agendaman]

protests marches way too late horse already outta the barn

[jjgold]

Nobody even cares if they got banned all over United States

[stevenash]

Nobody even cares if they got banned all over United States

You do.

[That Dude]

Nobody even cares if they got banned all over United States

Over 600,000 people in NY play on Fanduel. Schneiderman took almost 50k from gambling and casino companies last year. That right there tells you why he is targeting Fanduel and draftkings.

[Covy]

Nobody even cares if they got banned all over United States

More DFS players in U.S. than sports bettors

I'd have to disagree

[stevenash]

Schneiderman is going to get buried if this goes to litigation.

http://nypost.com/2015/11/11/eric-sc...orts-gambling/

[mikewlgm]

fanduel is organizing a protest in front of the AG's office

7:45 AM tomorrow

http://click.fanduelmail.com/?qs=d21...76ab7589efd0e4



What: Fantasy for All Rally

When: Friday, November 13th
7:45 a.m.

Where: 120 Broadway
New York, NY 10271

[jjgold]

Protests..lol nobody cars about $10 players screaming and yelling every Sunday like children

[khicks26]

NY AG took 48K from the casinos to get elected. I wonder why hes out to get the DFS sites. What a scum ball.

A daily fantasy sports company not named DraftKings or FanDuel has called out the New York State Attorney General. Andrew Busa, Founder and CEO of FantasyHub, says that New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman has improperly targeted the daily fantasy industry while turning a blind eye to gambling and casino companies that line his pockets.
In an email titled, “An aggressive response against New York’s actions on DFS,” Busa writes, “Last year alone Eric Schneiderman took in $48,750 in campaign contributions from gambling and casinos companies; this doesn’t include $37,250 from Cantor Fitzgerald, one of the largest private partnerships on Wall Street, and in the past decade moved in to many industries including gambling. Cantor Gaming controls over 30% of the Nevada sports wagering market. Where is their cease and desist?”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenhe...antasy-sports/

[agendaman]

story in n.y. post today says the DOJ will declare all DFS as gambling by the end of the yr, RIP protests etc. are now irrelevant

[SharpAngles]

What a greedy group of stats nerds. Raking 100 million each last year wasn't enough so they flood the market with ads and put a huge target on their backs. Also looked the other way while pros demolish the average customers rolls with 100 buyins to a single tournament and allowed employees to play on competitors sites. They should all get fkd.

Personally, I'm glad because I'm a bitter sob who still can't move money onto a poker site legally so I say gfy to all the DF whiners and their "game of skill"

[swordsandtequila]

What a greedy group of stats nerds. Raking 100 million each last year wasn't enough so they flood the market with ads and put a huge target on their backs. Also looked the other way while pros demolish the average customers rolls with 100 buyins to a single tournament and allowed employees to play on competitors sites. They should all get fkd.

Personally, I'm glad because I'm a bitter sob who still can't move money onto a poker site legally so I say gfy to all the DF whiners and their "game of skill"

You recognize shutting down DFS doesn't help your cause, right? Biting your nose off to spite your face.

[khicks26]

What a greedy group of stats nerds. Raking 100 million each last year wasn't enough so they flood the market with ads and put a huge target on their backs. Also looked the other way while pros demolish the average customers rolls with 100 buyins to a single tournament and allowed employees to play on competitors sites. They should all get fkd.

Personally, I'm glad because I'm a bitter sob who still can't move money onto a poker site legally so I say gfy to all the DF whiners and their "game of skill"

Dude, it should all be legal, sports betting, DFS, & poker. Just because you got a bunch of greedy fuks in the gaming Ind that own the politicians & want to control the money. Is no reason to take it out on someone else who plays DFS.

Don't let the old fuks like Sheldon Adelson win. You can buy a lottery ticket, bet on horses, or go to there casinos. But you can't play poker or DFS online. Total BS.

[SharpAngles]

Well boys I did identify as a bitter sob...

Obviously I believe it should all be legal, but it's not. Nothing was more tilting than seeing those fkn commercials and I'm glad those pro blowing scammer fks DK and FD got what they deserve. John Q Public was getting shafted by the greedy sites and their big money regs plain and simple, so yeah I'm glad it's coming to light and these sht companies will be held accountable.

[jjgold]

Poker would be pretty big online if all 50 states were allowed to play

Now they are all flops meaning each state

Low volume even in VEgas

[khicks26]

Well boys I did identify as a bitter sob...

Obviously I believe it should all be legal, but it's not. Nothing was more tilting than seeing those fkn commercials and I'm glad those pro blowing scammer fks DK and FD got what they deserve. John Q Public was getting shafted by the greedy sites and their big money regs plain and simple, so yeah I'm glad it's coming to light and these sht companies will be held accountable.

No doubt the commercials are a pain in the ass. The sites even admitted that. But they still have found no wrong doing with the sites, even the guy that works for DK that won money on FD did it the right way. His winning lineup was in before he new the player %'s. Even with that info its no easy way to win.

Its just the news blowing shit out of proportion, by the way all those rich fuks own the media to.

Also the guys that created these sites. Are guys that were poker players that were fuked by the UIGA. The sites took the laws in mind when they made them.

[Jeffie]

Poker would be pretty big online if all 50 states were allowed to play

Now they are all flops meaning each state

Low volume even in VEgas

Yeah WSOP site has super low traffic was kinda surprised.
If DFS get shutdown this will not help Online poker at all.

[khicks26]

This NY AG clown is a dick. DFS is bad for you. Tell me how many people are saying this.

But here buy a pack of cigarettes & a bottle of booze. Play the lotto while your at it. Total fuking bought & paided for hypocrite.

[agendaman]

a reporter at the so-called protest rally outside the office of the n.y. AG said almost all the protesters were fan duel employees very few actual dfs players a sad mess indeed

[khicks26]

a reporter at the so-called protest rally outside the office of the n.y. AG said almost all the protesters were fan duel employees very few actual dfs players a sad mess indeed

Yeah if a douche bag politician was trying to take away your livelihood. You would be out there to. Whats your point.

[khicks26]

DraftKings adds to roster of lawyers, hires David Boies and Jonathan Schiller for fight with New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/draftkings-adds-star-studded-legal-team-article-1.2433577

[THam12]

Haven't read what others have said in here but let me give you my intake on something I've been involved in for 3+ years:

DFS is not luck... There is luck involved. YES it is gambling BUT it is based on skill. You are competing against others who have the same salary and same group of players to choose from. I would LOVE for legislators to deposit $100 and see how long they can make it last if they truly think its "luck".

TONS of people play this. This isn't some small portion of population.... It's a large part of American livelihood now.

FD and DK have done things right by sending tax forms on winners.... No acknowledgement of that from our legislators.

Lets kill tons of jobs, tons of tax income for our government who desparately needs it, excitement, AND not to mention the amount of popularity it would take out of many pro sports. I'll tell you now, I'd watch 1% of the NBA games I watch now if i couldn't play DFS NBA games...

It's a fukking mockery that our government is more concerned with DFS than goddamn racial wars going on inside of our boundaries. I can't believe that they've made such a big deal out of such a harmless hobby.

[yisman]

a reporter at the so-called protest rally outside the office of the n.y. AG said almost all the protesters were fan duel employees very few actual dfs players a sad mess indeed

that isn't accurate.

[agendaman]

you have a valid pt. knicks26 what gets me is after the 2 main dfs sites fduel and dkings have in effect pissed on evertone for yrs. now they want the players to help them survive pay the piper your dam selves

[SharpAngles]

No doubt the commercials are a pain in the ass. The sites even admitted that. But they still have found no wrong doing with the sites, even the guy that works for DK that won money on FD did it the right way. His winning lineup was in before he new the player %'s. Even with that info its no easy way to win.

Its just the news blowing shit out of proportion, by the way all those rich fuks own the media to.

Also the guys that created these sites. Are guys that were poker players that were fuked by the UIGA. The sites took the laws in mind when they made them.

I agree the recent "scandal" was just media BS but I'm talking about them allowing a few dozen regs to enter thousands of lineups in the big multis and make it have nothing to do with skill for the normal joes playing a lineup or two on sundays. I quit a few seasons ago when I started seeing these guys just dominate the payouts. You'd see the same names 150 times in the top 200 because they played so many cards. I'm not interested in that kind of volume to keep up so quit.

There's no law that makes fantasy sports for money legal friend. The NFL and the other leagues got the carveout in the UIGEA to protect their interests but that's simply a carveout for processing money, not the legality of DF for $.

Once the DOJoke decides to act the partys really over guys. This is a state issue for now but they're already looking into this. You'll all be looking at this screen crossing your fingers that your moneys safe...

[khicks26]

I agree the recent "scandal" was just media BS but I'm talking about them allowing a few dozen regs to enter thousands of lineups in the big multis and make it have nothing to do with skill for the normal joes playing a lineup or two on sundays. I quit a few seasons ago when I started seeing these guys just dominate the payouts. You'd see the same names 150 times in the top 200 because they played so many cards. I'm not interested in that kind of volume to keep up so quit.

There's no law that makes fantasy sports for money legal friend. The NFL and the other leagues got the carveout in the UIGEA to protect their interests but that's simply a carveout for processing money, not the legality of DF for $.

Once the DOJoke decides to act the partys really over guys. This is a state issue for now but they're already looking into this. You'll all be looking at this screen crossing your fingers that your moneys safe...

I agree, on the multi lineup shit. There is always someone that try's to scam the system. I would liken it to the re-buys in poker. I never played re-buys, & I only enter single entry contest in DFS.

There needs to be some regulation put in place, & the sites are asking for it. But the special interest just wants to shut it down.
I live in Mich & there is no law that makes DFS legal or illegal, same goes for poker online. There's nothing on the books.

Just like everything else in the world it all comes down to money. I have no disagreement with your statement.

[khicks26]

you have a valid pt. knicks26 what gets me is after the 2 main dfs sites fduel and dkings have in effect pissed on evertone for yrs. now they want the players to help them survive pay the piper your dam selves

Yes they have to make some changes to the way they do business. But just like gambling some will win, & for the most part there will be more people that lose. I can do without DK or FD. Just don't make it against the law. But I do think that people that lose need to blame someone & there just blaming the sites.

[jjgold]

Now I hear other states want to jump in

I have no idea what the answer is

[mpaschal34]

What this really hurts is the NBA, they were hoping for DFS to help viewership. No ones wants to watch that crap unless they are wagering in some sort of way. Their numbers should continue to tank now.

[existential]

What this really hurts is the NBA, they were hoping for DFS to help viewership. No ones wants to watch that crap unless they are wagering in some sort of way. Their numbers should continue to tank now.

good, the product is unwatchable outside a couple teams.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Same with bullshit toll roads. The East/West expressway in Orlando was supposed to charge a toll only long enough to pay for itself. 10 years later the toll road was paid for 5x over and what did the politicians say? "Due to the tremendous response of the public, we've decided to keep the toll permanently. WTF? Tremendous response? You didn't have a fukkin choice.

Their first goal is to make money. After that, they don't give a damn about anything.

When they started a lottery in Florida, they promoted it by saying these hundreds of millions of dollars would help education. Then you know what they did? They took money out of the state budget, which had been allocated for schools, and spent that money elsewhere. So the lottery simply replaced funds that had been in the budget to begin with. Many years ago, Duval County, where Jacksonville is, received more than $30 million from the lottery; a few years, 2012 or '13, that had been slashed to something like $370,000.

Don't trust any politician . . . ever!