Remember when SBR gave Tony & Bobby that lifetime ban for booking?

[RogueScholar]

I'm just saying there are bigger things in life to try and improve than a gambling forum. SBR is already top notch in several ways if they feel some compassion once in a while for posters that make mistakes so be it.

What I don't like is how my name is being thrown into every thread like I had Sammy go and recruit SBR guys. Trust me, I snatched up virtually every known poster months back and almost every single one became a stiff/ran out of funds. You couldn't pay me to look for gamblers on SBR again. It had a good fun the first month when everybody was fresh and some guys actually cared about their reputation, but after that it was like dealing with thieves right out of prison. Some of the biggest heavy hitter posters are stiffs for $100 and shit, this place i'm sure is a gold mine for post up books.... but with credit that already ran it's course and exited it's prime.

I do not know if Sammy was serious or not if he is he will need a lot of tylenol with that approach.

I'm sorry if you feel judged unfairly, TSop. You may very well be completely innocent of involvement with Sammy's current scam, but you have to see that Sammy left people with few other conclusions to draw. He mentioned being backed by guys in NYC, he's using a site that mimics the layout of one of your old PPHs and you utilized him extensively in your earlier operations. While you were banned you chose to use Sammy as your "voice" for awhile, so you're the one who really initiated all thoughts of you two being, forgive the metaphor, "thick as thieves."

So while I feel for your plight if you are innocent this time, you brought it all on yourself. You used Bobbyfk as a lieutenant and in a solicitation phone call (yes, they really were asking for phone numbers in SBR Chat to call people to get them to use your book) to posters he openly talked about your aspirations to operate an offshore book and how he was going to move down there with you to be your customer service manager. You used Sammy to distribute payments to winning players (yes, you had losers directly wiring funds to winners using their real name) and even tried to collect on debts owed to Sammy to satisfy your own need for liquid assets. Basically you ran one of the most transparent and inneffective sportsbooks known to man, and when one of your associates attempts to duplicate the scam, you have to expect to be drawn into the conversation.

I do agree that taking credit players from the SBR demographic is sheer lunacy, but since you were naive enough to do it once, don't blame us for thinking you'd be willing to try it again. We're just following the trail of breadcrumbs here.

[DrStale]

Remember when Onner was working for SBR a few weeks ago and ripping on anyone who said anything neagtive about SBR? Remember when he told people to leave SBR if they didnt like it here?

Yeah, me neither.

Time for a re-up on the medication OTW.

[MartinBlank]

This place is awesome.

And Stale makes a good point, what did SBR do to rile Onner's panties?

He clearly has them in his crosshairs now.

[Tsoprano]

I'm sorry if you feel judged unfairly, TSop. You may very well be completely innocent of involvement with Sammy's current scam, but you have to see that Sammy left people with few other conclusions to draw. He mentioned being backed by guys in NYC, he's using a site that mimics the layout of one of your old PPHs and you utilized him extensively in your earlier operations. While you were banned you chose to use Sammy as your "voice" for awhile, so you're the one who really initiated all thoughts of you two being, forgive the metaphor, "thick as thieves."

So while I feel for your plight if you are innocent this time, you brought it all on yourself. You used Bobbyfk as a lieutenant and in a solicitation phone call (yes, they really were asking for phone numbers in SBR Chat to call people to get them to use your book) to posters he openly talked about your aspirations to operate an offshore book and how he was going to move down there with you to be your customer service manager. You used Sammy to distribute payments to winning players (yes, you had losers directly wiring funds to winners using their real name) and even tried to collect on debts owed to Sammy to satisfy your own need for liquid assets. Basically you ran one of the most transparent and inneffective sportsbooks known to man, and when one of your associates attempts to duplicate the scam, you have to expect to be drawn into the conversation.

I do agree that taking credit players from the SBR demographic is sheer lunacy, but since you were naive enough to do it once, don't blame us for thinking you'd be willing to try it again. We're just following the trail of breadcrumbs here.

I agree with everything you have said.

You gotta understand though Rogue, I never planned on making a living off the player base at SBR. And to be honest I knew it was going to have a short life span, but when you get caught up in the moment and you start making book during the March Madness tourny, on top of that have relationships with virtually every poster at a busy forum it really gets tempting.

That being said, SBR was more of a trial and error. If I could go back and do it again originally I would (sorry SBR staff), it basically trained me with running a book. I did a LOT wrong no doubt, but it almost perfected my way of doing things as I am now making a full time living with it. And with players that pay like men and get paid like men and have money to work with.

Some people are born and end up being a dentist, some sell bananas on the corner, some are lawyers, .... I couldn't find anything better than bookmaking. It truly is something I enjoy doing. What I don't enjoy doing is going to bed at night thinking in the back of my mind "what are those sbr kids saying about me now in sbr chat". That kind of baggage should not come with making book. I feel for Sammy if he is going to put himself through this kind of hell to make a buck.

[pavyracer]

This place is awesome.

And Stale makes a good point, what did SBR do to rile Onner's panties?

He clearly has them in his crosshairs now.

Onthesack's behavior changed when Nickay disappeared. If you put 2 and 2 together you will figure it. He was paid a commission from Nickay's paid posting salary to be his ball licker. Now that he is gone he lost his income.

[pavyracer]

I agree with everything you have said.

You gotta understand though Rogue, I never planned on making a living off the player base at SBR. And to be honest I knew it was going to have a short life span, but when you get caught up in the moment and you start making book during the March Madness tourny, on top of that have relationships with virtually every poster at a busy forum it really gets tempting.

That being said, SBR was more of a trial and error. If I could go back and do it again originally I would (sorry SBR staff), it basically trained me with running a book. I did a LOT wrong no doubt, but it almost perfected my way of doing things as I am now making a full time living with it. And with players that pay like men and get paid like men and have money to work with.

Some people are born and end up being a dentist, some sell bananas on the corner, some are lawyers, .... I couldn't find anything better than bookmaking. It truly is something I enjoy doing. What I don't enjoy doing is going to bed at night thinking in the back of my mind "what are those sbr kids saying about me now in sbr chat". That kind of baggage should not come with making book. I feel for Sammy if he is going to put himself through this kind of hell to make a buck.

If you want to do it again why don't you do it the legal way? Buy a banner at the top of this page and have SBR give you an A+ rating for the right fee. If you have money SBR will be a good way to advertise your business and they would love for you to give them affiliate business.

[Tsoprano]

If you want to do it again why don't you do it the legal way? Buy a banner at the top of this page and have SBR give you an A+ rating for the right fee. If you have money SBR will be a good way to advertise your business and they would love for you to give them affiliate business.

Honestly that is my dream for the future.

[whatsgood5]

I hope sammy doesn't get the lifetime banhammer here. He's an entertaining kind

[bobbyfk]

You used Bobbyfk as a lieutenant and in a solicitation phone call (yes, they really were asking for phone numbers in SBR Chat to call people to get them to use your book) to posters he openly talked about your aspirations to operate an offshore book and how he was going to move down there with you to be your customer service manager. .

i ****ed up...big time, not saying T is a bad guy because he is not, I should have just never gotten involved in the first place. But I did and I learned my lesson and I am over it

[all_wade]

i bet he wants to apologize now. but he can't

[tltaylor89]

JJ Gold keeps naming names I may have to pay him a visit

[THEGREAT30]

Yeah, me neither. Kind of hard to take SBR serious about anything when they show they will bend the rules to help produce traffic and posting numbers that have been lost.

I'm sure one of the puppets will be along shortly to tell me how wrong I am when in fact I'm the one thinking and not subscribing to the SBR kool-aid like a nit wit.

great observation OP, good day.