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  • TPowell
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-21-08
    • 18842

    #1
    Help on NCAA Halftime Totals?
    I think I've bet like 5 of them today and all have been unders. Just wondered if everybody agreed that the second half usually produces 10 more points than the first half?

    Alright halftime total for Missouri State and Wichita was 74. Heres the rundown

    1. They scored 63 in first half
    2. Missouri State shot 56% from field
    3. Wichita shot 43% from field (66% from 3)


    Does this not seem like its going UNDER 74 in the second half?
  • TPowell
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-21-08
    • 18842

    #2
    If the 10 point rule is right then they would score 73 in the second half IF they played the same way which I believe won't happen because 1 team shot 55+% from the field and the other was 4-6 from outside
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    • TPowell
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 02-21-08
      • 18842

      #3
      andddddd they score 7 points in the first minute
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      • JohnAnthony
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 04-30-09
        • 5110

        #4
        You know what, I have done this comparison by eye so my observation might be off, but yes - usually 2nd halves produce more points from what I've seen.

        I love unders in NCAAB, but too many OT's have killed me lately.
        "I have never seen a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A little bird will fall dead, frozen from a bough, without ever having felt sorry for itself."

        - D.H. Lawrence
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        • TPowell
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-21-08
          • 18842

          #5
          12 point in 3 minutes. Leaning slightly over but ya never know. I have BC/Florida State and ND/St Johns BOTH UNDER for the 2H and they look like winners right now
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          • ZBOIZ
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 06-22-08
            • 21464

            #6
            Originally posted by TPowell
            I think I've bet like 5 of them today and all have been unders. Just wondered if everybody agreed that the second half usually produces 10 more points than the first half?

            Alright halftime total for Missouri State and Wichita was 74. Heres the rundown

            1. They scored 63 in first half
            2. Missouri State shot 56% from field
            3. Wichita shot 43% from field (66% from 3)


            Does this not seem like its going UNDER 74 in the second half?
            it does, you have to factor in fouls at the end of the game
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            • TPowell
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-21-08
              • 18842

              #7
              yeah. All depends on score. Could be so close that teams are milking clock (1-2 point game for a while). I think 10 is a liberal number, should be closer to 5-6 IMO
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              • SamsNCharge99
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-22-08
                • 41242

                #8
                also you have to remember in a close gm, late gm fouling...can turn a gm from 70 pts in 19 minutes or w-e, to 80.

                The last minute or 2 could easily get 15-20 pts if there is fouling and 3 pointers and all this.

                But at same time, last 2 minutes can be 5 pts w/ running out of clock. Depends on how close the gm is
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                • Reload
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-23-08
                  • 12250

                  #9
                  Second halfs in college hoops can be a real crap shoot, TPowell. They always jack up the total because of late fouling and the chance of overtime. But all it takes is a couple of minutes worth of missed shots, and it can go under.

                  I've made my share of second half total bets in college hoops and can clearly say I'm down with them long term. They are cappable, but it's a pretty long-term proposition thanks to bad calls, bricks at the free throw line, and everything else.

                  Sides have treated me better in second halfs for college hoops. Some good dog plays can come up and I mainly stick with that.
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                  • onthewhat
                    Restricted User
                    • 05-14-08
                    • 15411

                    #10
                    You should check a graph of scoring in first half/second half before betting half totals.

                    2nd half has way more points.
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                    • TPowell
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                      • 02-21-08
                      • 18842

                      #11
                      Herman, you think 10 is a fair number?
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                      • onthewhat
                        Restricted User
                        • 05-14-08
                        • 15411

                        #12
                        It depends on the full game spread, total, etc.

                        Lots of factors to consider. You think Bookmakers are watching every game and putting up a halftime total? They enter it all into a formula to figure out the 2nd half line.
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                        • The Seer
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 10-29-07
                          • 10641

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Reload
                          Second halfs in college hoops can be a real crap shoot, TPowell. They always jack up the total because of late fouling and the chance of overtime. But all it takes is a couple of minutes worth of missed shots, and it can go under. I've made my share of second half total bets in college hoops and can clearly say I'm down with them long term. They are cappable, but it's a pretty long-term proposition thanks to bad calls, bricks at the free throw line, and everything else. Sides have treated me better in second halfs for college hoops. Some good dog plays can come up and I mainly stick with that.
                          One of reloads sharper posts. You are probably better off going the opposite of bodog's leans or other square books if you need 2nd half action.
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                          • TPowell
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-21-08
                            • 18842

                            #14
                            38 points (under is 74) with 6:30 left
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                            • Peep
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-23-08
                              • 2295

                              #15
                              To find the base line the books will use for the second half, do the following.

                              1) Take the game total, subtract 8. This will give you the the first half total. Now subtract that from the game total, you will have the base total for the second half. For example, if a game is lined at 138 for college, the base for the first half would be 65, the second half 73 = total 138.

                              2) If the first half is low scoring (under 10 of what it was anticipated to be) they will take another 1-3 points off the 2nd half base. If it is high scoring (more than 10 over what it was anticipated to be) they will add on 1-3 points. So, in the 138 lined game example, the total for the second half could be anywheres from 70 to 76, depending on the pace of the first half.
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