JohnAnthony: what is your primary line service?

[SlickFazzer]

thanks.

[JohnAnthony]

Slick I am a very undereducated sports-bettor. When I started intially SBRodds was the only site I used but these days I try to get info from more sources like stats and scores (a website GREAT30 mentioned somewhere), Covers & so on..

My first year sportsbetting I was only worried about how I feel/think the game is going to turn out but with time I started crediting and putting thought to line movement, public money and so on..

One very profitable strategy I use is bet with the local bookie here in my country. It is a monopoly bookie so odds and lines are VERY bad. This bookie knows everything about the public, here's an example:

- 2 days ago Basketball team Maccabi Electra Tel Aviv played at home against Effes.
- The totals that were offered at this square-only bookie were U/O 159. The totals at Pinnacle were 154.5
- This is because square bettors who think they can afford to play at a bookie that doesn't let you play STRAIGHT (only PARLAYS) must love the over. Therefore the bookie set so high.
- A little research showed that whenever Maccabi Tel Aviv won at home against Effest - they kept them below 70.
- Parlay with the local bookie: Maccabi TA/effes UNDER 159 + Cavs (-6) + Siena (Euroleage) (-3) for $100.
- Cash $450 on my tities.


I hope I got your question right..

[SlickFazzer]

excellent. thanks.

[JohnAnthony]

What is yours Fazzer?

[durito]

Tell me more about Israeli bookmakers. What do 2 team parlays pay (assuming -110 and -110)

Do they only offer Israeli sports? Is this online or in shops? Do they ban people for winning (they must right?)

Do they let foreigners bet?

[SlickFazzer]

Im an amateur player.. get most of my info from SBRlines.com.

[Grind House]

Hey John have you ever seen Fran Vazquez play? If so what do you think?

[JohnAnthony]

Tell me more about Israeli bookmakers. What do 2 team parlays pay (assuming -110 and -110) Do they only offer Israeli sports? Is this online or in shops? Do they ban people for winning (they must right?)

Are you ready? because at 5:32AM after a long sleepless night I'm gonna make you jump out of the chair, either bursting or laughter or crying for the sake of the people that are still betting with this one bookie.

In Israel there is only ONE legalized bookie, a monopoly. You can start guessing where this is going by now.

1. Their odds are WORST than the worsest of odds you can ever find online. I can guarantee that.

2. NO straight wagers. The minimum is a 3-teamer. The maximum is a 6 teamer.

3. These parlays simply pay the product of the odds: 3 teamer each at 2.00 (+100) = $70 for $10.

4. Pay close attention now: in NBA, say team A and team B are playing and the line is A (-7), if team A wins EXACTLY by 7, it is NOT a push, it is an X. (Just like in soccer 1X2) - the odds are 1.80 - 9.00 - 1.80 (A wins by more than 7, A wins exactly by 7, B losses less than 7 or wins SU)

5. In soccer totals, you can make 3 bets: 1 - one goal or less. 2 - 2/3 goals. 3- more than three goals. This is obviously much tougher than the O/U 2.5 offered by most gambling books you and I know.

6. They don't ban winners cause nobody is a winner long-term. I haven't heard of ONE gambler that is up overall with them, ONE. Also - bets aren't accepted online, and they have kiosks and shops all around the country.

I can give more example, but I guess you get the picture durito.

durito, will you make me your student?

[THE PROFIT]

I have a feeling if I lived in Israel that betting would be the last thing on my mind. I don't know why, just don't think I'd be into it if I was there. But then who knows

[JohnAnthony]

Durito - one piece of info I left out: they offer only Soccer & NBA & Euroleague BB. No college basketball. Soccer you get the Israeli league and only the Premier & Championship for England and their correspondent leagues for euro leagues. Only few games listed.

[THE PROFIT]

Why don't you just play with a regular vegas book?

[RobbReport]

damn, if you get good with them you can kill it at offshore books.

[THE PROFIT]

or island book, whatever

[JohnAnthony]

It's funny you guys are asking me to make picks, I'm an over-average handicapper but a very bad bankroll management gambler. I don't know who that guy Vasquez is.

[JohnAnthony]

damn, if you get good with them you can kill it at offshore books.

I actually bet with them for a WHOLE 3 years. I think I was picking around at least 60% there because most of the time it was moneylines and shit like that. Still I was down because you know what they say about parlays.

[durito]

The odds can be pretty damn horrendous if they are 5pts off pinnacle. Now, I am pretty sure pinnacles Israeli hoops lines have about a $50 limit so they are probably worthless as a comparison.

Do they deal off #'s on widely bet events in other countries?


I do get the picture though, I have know been friends with lots of jews in my life, they tend not to lose at business ever.

[durito]

The odds can be pretty damn horrendous if they are 5pts off pinnacle. Now, I am pretty sure pinnacles Israeli hoops lines have about a $50 limit so they are probably worthless as a comparison.

Do they deal off #'s on widely bet events in other countries?


I do get the picture though, I have know been friends with lots of jews in my life, they tend not to lose at business ever.

[JohnAnthony]

The odds for BB games are ALWAYS 1.80 - 9.00 - 1.80.

Now, I am pretty sure pinnacles Israeli hoops lines have about a $50 limit so they are probably worthless as a comparison.

I am pretty sure they are much higher than that.

Do they deal off #'s on widely bet events in other countries?

Yes. Superbowl did get a line if I'm correct, so does the All Star.

[jjgold]

I use SBRodds.com

Pretty close to real time and free