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  • mdemps9190
    SBR MVP
    • 11-08-07
    • 1957

    #1
    Kiper and Mcshays Mock Drafts?
    Anybody have these? I'd like to keep an update on them, but dont have ESPN insider. Thanks in advance, will throw some points too.
  • mdemps9190
    SBR MVP
    • 11-08-07
    • 1957

    #2
    nobody?
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    • THEGREAT30
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      • 10-04-08
      • 8970

      #3
      I would like them also
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      • Cougar Bait
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 10-04-07
        • 18282

        #4
        Kiper:

        1. St. Louis Rams: Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
        Can’t go wrong with this pick, and until the Rams say they are going to draft a QB or trade the pick, there is no reason anyone should have a QB here.

        2. Detroit Lions: Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
        Another safe but smart pick by Kiper. Detroit has made a strong stance that they don’t want to swap their OTs, and a safety second overall would be groundbreaking.

        3. Tampa Bay Bucs: Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
        Kiper points out that difference-making safeties are in higher demand than ever in the NFL. With the fact that last year was a poor safety draft and that Tampa has a tie to Berry, this seems like a lock despite what history suggests.

        4. Washington Redskins: Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
        Bradford was Kiper’s top player entering the season, and he insists he hasn’t seen anything on the field to suggest Bradford isn’t a top five talent. I saw Bradford holding his shoulder twice and throwing off his back foot quite a bit dating back to the National Championship Game. How will he throw behind a very suspect line?

        5. Kansas City Chiefs: Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
        At five, it’s hard to pass on a talent like Okung when you have needs on the offensive line, but KC has bigger needs on defense in my opinion. Jamaal Charles ran wild late in the year, and Matt Cassel is the type of QB who will always attract sacks. The talented Okung is hard to pass though.

        6. Seattle Seahawks: Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
        Could the Hawks use Morgan? Without a doubt, but their pass rush wasn’t as bad as their pass coverage or pass protection, and there are highly ranked players at six to address both of those needs. Morgan’s ability to play the run will upgrade the defense tremendously, however.

        7. Cleveland Browns: Joe Haden, CB, Florida
        If Haden falls to seven, he looks like a lock for the Browns. Mike Holmgren is big on drafting DBs early, and Haden may be the NFL’s next elite corner. As Mel says, the Browns “can’t go wrong” by picking Haden considering their coverage woes.

        8. Oakland Raiders: Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
        The Raiders had some surprise victories last season, and with a talented stable of backs, they could have a few more if their line improves. Davis would be a nice fit in Oakland, although he was inconsistent. At times he plays up to his competition, and if he plays at an NFL level every Sunday, we may see the Raiders fighting for a playoff spot—well, maybe.

        9. Buffalo Bills: Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
        With years of experience in a pro-style offense, Clausen is much more NFL-ready than some want to give him credit for. New coach Chan Gailey is looking for a QB of his own, which usually means drafting one who hasn’t been ruined already. Clausen’s experience in bad weather is a plus for the Bills.

        10. Denver Broncos (from Chicago): Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
        Until Denver comes out and says Brandon Marshall is staying, this pick looks like a lock. Some scouts feel Bryant will grade out higher than Michael Crabtree, which may be debatable on the field, but at least we will see what he can do in the competitive pre-draft environment.

        11. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida
        There are two schools of thought in the 2010 nfl draft: One thinks JAX will draft Tim Tebow, and the other thinks they will draft for need. Mel does not believe the Jags will draft Tebow “just to sell tickets.” Pierre-Paul is a rare talent, but his rawness makes him a potential bust. Would Carlos Dunlap be the better option at end?

        12. Miami Dolphins – Rolando McClain, LB, Alabama
        There is one backer in this draft who is a lock to be a stud in any system, and that’s McClain. At 12 he is a great value pick for Miami, and he fills a need too.

        13. San Francisco 49ers: Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
        This might be a small reach for a right tackle considering SF has another pick later in the draft. I would like to see the Niners grab a safety or Spiller here and a lineman with their second pick, but drafting a starter is never a bad thing.

        14. Seattle Seahawks (From Denver): C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
        Pete Carroll has a road map for the talent he wants to bring in, and as we know from his units at USC, he loves dynamic backfield players. Spiller can be more of a running back than Reggie Bush and equally impressive in the return game.

        15. New York Giants: Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
        Kiper feels the defensive line depth of the Giants has been overstated, but looking at their roster, I see many edge rushers. Dunlap has great potential, but his commitment is a question, and if the Giants are switching to a cover 2, they may need other positions more.

        16. San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina): Earl Thomas, S, Texas
        If the Niners can grab Thomas at 16 after taking Williams at 13, it will be a very successful first round. The ball-hawk safety isn’t the biggest prospect, but he is productive and confident.

        17. Tennessee Titans: Everson Griffen, DE, Southern California
        Any mock that doesn’t have the Titans taking a defensive lineman is questionable in my eyes, and it looks like Mel agrees. With the top three ends off the board, the Titans are left with Griffen, or they could draft a DT. I’m not sure Griffen has the elite pass rush skills the Titans need to pressure the QB more in 2010.

        18. Pittsburgh Steelers: Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
        Watching Big Ben pump fake three times and get sacked got tiresome this season, and after back-to-back years of terrible line play, it’s time to update the unit. Bulaga may start on the right side initially, but he projects to be a very good left tackle one day, and as Mel points out, Bulaga won’t need to change his wardrobe.

        19. Atlanta Falcons: Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB, Texas
        The Falcons are looking for linebackers and ends, and they might have found both in Kindle. When tested against Oklahoma and Alabama, Kindle performed from the DE position. He may be uncomfortable at times in the Falcons’ system, but his former teammate Brian Orakpo had no trouble being productive in the 4-3 this year.

        20. Houston Texans: Brian Price, DT, UCLA
        In their short existence we have seen the Texans actively upgrade their defensive line in the draft, and there is nothing to indicate they won’t continue to do so—it’s just a matter of which player. Price is a very active tackle, and while I think a clogger might have more of an impact in stopping the run, the Texans may fall in love with Price’s upside.

        21. Cincinnati Bengals: Aaron Hernandez, TE, Florida
        This pick is a reach in my eyes. Hernandez is an athletic TE/H-Back who can be used all over the field, but because he lacks prototypical size, I’m not sure he’s first round talent. An impressive forty will go a long way.

        22. New England Patriots: Ricky Sapp, DE/OLB, Clemson
        Like Hernandez, Sapp is a fringe first rounder who just needs one 3-4 team to fall in love with him. The Pats defense was the worst it’s been in a decade, and personnel changes this offseason will create a need at the nine-tech.

        23. Green Bay Packers: Taylor Mays, S, Southern California
        With dynamic safeties in high demand, I have a hard time seeing Mays slide past teams like Pittsburgh and Houston. If the Packers do get him, it could result in the steal of the draft.

        24. Philadelphia Eagles: Navorro Bowman, LB, Penn State
        The Eagles have a handful of backers looking for contracts, and none of those players are as good as Bowman. We’ve seen enough “undersized” backers do well enough in the NFL that an inch or two shouldn’t matter when you have on-field production like his.

        25. Baltimore Ravens: Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
        After taking a year off from the game due to injury, similar to his teammate Bradford, it’s hard to call Gresham a lock in the first round. Ozzie Newsome of the Ravens knows his tight ends, so if Gresham is that good he could be their pick, but an eventual starter doesn’t seem like the best pick considering their need at receiver.

        26. Arizona Cardinals: Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
        Kiper feels a nose tackle is the second biggest need for the Cards, and I agree with him that if Williams is on the board it will be a tough pass. The Cards do have two old outside backers and some questionable things going on at tackle, and I see either being addressed if Williams is off the board.

        27. Dallas Cowboys: Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
        I love this pick for the Cowboys, but I have Campbell going off the board almost 20 picks earlier. Flozell Adams is nearing the end of his career, and the Cowboys need depth now and possibly a player who can start in 2010. If Campbell is gone, will they reach for another tackle though?

        28. San Diego Chargers: Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech
        Rumors are that the Chargers and LT will be parting ways, and while Darren Sproles has done well as a starter, it’s not foreseeable he can handle the load for 16 games. Dwyer would be a nice thunder to Sproles’ lightning, and he is deceptive similar to the Jets’ Shonn Greene. A new nose might have more impact though.

        29. New York Jets: Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
        Many see the Jets going with a WR in the first round, and I like the big-play threat of Tate to blend with the Jets’ offensive style. Tate would be the third WR as a rookie and maybe even longer depending on NY’s feelings towards Braylon Edwards, making this pick a bit of a luxury, but the talent is there.

        30. Minnesota Vikings: Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida State
        Looking at the players left on the board after Kiper’s first 29 picks, the Vikings will have a very tough time drafting. Robinson has just as many proponents as he does doubters, but he could be a very good starting corner for the next decade. With this board I would rather see the Vikings grab guard Mike Iupati to help them run right more.

        31. New Orleans Saints: Jared Odrick, DT, Penn State
        Odrick is a talented defensive tackle, and he and Terrence Cody will be pushing the saturation rate of DTs in the first round. The Saints like bigger D-linemen, which is exactly what Odrick is, and he is a standout against the run.

        32. Indianapolis Colts: Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan
        Drafting Graham would be an example of the rich getting richer, and if Indy is going with the BPA strategy, as they commonly do, it’s a great pick. I don’t see Graham transitioning into a 4-3 backer because he is so effective on the LOS, where he plays the run just as well as the pass.
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        • Cougar Bait
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-04-07
          • 18282

          #5
          McShay:

          1. St. Louis Rams — Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
          2. Cleveland Browns — Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
          3. Detroit Lions — Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
          4. Oakland Raiders — Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
          5. Kansas City Chiefs — Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
          6. Seattle Seahawks (from Denver) — Colt McCoy, QB, Texas
          7. Jacksonville Jaguars — Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
          8. San Francisco 49ers — Taylor Mays, S, USC
          9. Green Bay Packers — Adam Ulatoski, OT, Texas
          10. San Francisco 49ers (from CAR) — Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
          11. Washington Redskins — Ciron Black, OT, LSU
          12. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Geno Atkins, DT, Georgia
          13. Denver Broncos (from CHI) — Jerry Hughes, OLB, TCU
          14. Buffalo Bills — Sam Young, OT, Notre Dame
          15. Cincinnati Bengals — C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
          16. Miami Dolphins — George Selvie, DE, South Florida
          17. Tennessee Titans — Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida
          18. Seattle Seahawks — Brandon LaFell, WR, LSU
          19. Houston Texans — Trevard Lindley, CB, Kentucky
          20. New Orleans Saints — Navorro Bowman, OLB, Penn State
          21. New York Jets — DeMarcus Granger, DT, Oklahoma
          22. Baltimore Ravens — Marshwan Gilyard, WR, Cincinnati
          23. Dallas Cowboys — Javier Arenas, CB, Alabama
          24. New York Giants — Brandon Lang, DE, Troy
          25. Minnesota Vikings — Nate Allen, S, South Florida
          26. Indianapolis Colts — Eric Norwood, DE, South Carolina
          27. Arizona Cardinals — Sergio Render, G, Virginia Tech
          28. San Diego Chargers — LeGarrette Blount, RB, Oregon
          29. Atlanta Falcons — Mark Herzlich, OLB, Boston College
          30. Pittsburgh Steelers — Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama
          31. Philadelphia Eagles — Greg Hardy, DE, Mississippi
          32. New England Patriots — Micah Johnson, ILB, Kentucky
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          • Cougar Bait
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-04-07
            • 18282

            #6
            McShay one was from forever ago...can't find anything but his first 7 picks otherwise, hope this helps a little.

            An SBR contest I'd love to see is a Mock Draft contest. In fact, I will post a thread about it.
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            • ZBOIZ
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 06-22-08
              • 21464

              #7
              both of those mocks are old. He should have a up to date one soon. The Saints pick last at 32
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              • Cougar Bait
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                • 10-04-07
                • 18282

                #8
                Per Jan 20, 2010 the first 5 are still the same. Z, go ahead and post the correct mocks.
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                • GiveMeaBJ
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-08-09
                  • 8449

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Cougar Bait
                  McShay one was from forever ago...can't find anything but his first 7 picks otherwise, hope this helps a little.

                  An SBR contest I'd love to see is a Mock Draft contest. In fact, I will post a thread about it.
                  Great idea.
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                  • Cougar Bait
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-04-07
                    • 18282

                    #10
                    Z, according to this link: http://www.milehighreport.com/2010/1...ck-has-broncos

                    This is the correct and most recent Kiper mock. I may be wrong, but this is two different sources online.

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                    • ZBOIZ
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 06-22-08
                      • 21464

                      #11
                      At 32 The New Orleans Saints select Brandon Graham Defensive end Michigan
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                      • THEGREAT30
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 10-04-08
                        • 8970

                        #12
                        If that is correct that's high for Clausen IMO and Golden Tate to Jets would be good for them
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                        • Cougar Bait
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 10-04-07
                          • 18282

                          #13
                          Originally posted by THEGREAT30
                          If that is correct that's high for Clausen IMO and Golden Tate to Jets would be good for them
                          I think the Kiper one is right, because both online sources have the same players in the same order and it's from comments posted on blogs from Jan 21 so I don't think it's old. As for New Orleans being 31 instead of 32 maybe he thought Indy was going to win and did his mock pre-Super Bowl? The McShay one is way old, disregard it.
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                          • 2daBank
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                            • 01-26-09
                            • 88966

                            #14
                            Rams dumb asses are sitting around right now trying to talk themselves out of making a easy pick, probably take the guy who will take the least amount of money
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                            • THEGREAT30
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 10-04-08
                              • 8970

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 2daBank
                              Rams dumb asses are sitting around right now trying to talk themselves out of making a easy pick, probably take the guy who will take the least amount of money
                              Can't get out of there own way, huh?
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