My favorite jj reversal then meltdown...

[BatemanPatrickl]

he never said he turned people in. he said "threats". read again.

Who cares? I can threaten to have the Easter Bunny attack you but on an Internet forum that means nothing. Why would the feds care? Running a gambling forum is illegal?

[remmy358]

i highly doubt the feds care...they know people gamble in the US...it would be easy to find them, that gets them nothing. they want the people running the operations/payment processors...besides, it's still debated if it's even illegal for a US citizen to place a bet.

there have been people admitting to gambling online and taking banks to court because of it...the feds didnt go after them.

[Omnivorous Frog]

Nothing personal against JJ, aside from his apparent racism which has come up a few different occasions. But I'm tired of reading threads about him, or reading him make this forum his personal blog. Paying posters for any reason seems a bit questionable, it will just bring out "performers" instead of regular honest posters generating discussion. When the performers you employ are potentially bipolar or susceptible to fall in love with their own legend, it just drags down the overall quality of the forum.

Very diplomatic. I second this post.

[BatemanPatrickl]

i highly doubt the feds care...they know people gamble in the US...it would be easy to find them, that gets them nothing. they want the people running the operations/payment processors...besides, it's still debated if it's even illegal for a US citizen to place a bet.

there have been people admitting to gambling online and taking banks to court because of it...the feds didnt go after them.

So why would anyone care if JJ threatens to turn someone into the feds which is an obvious joke?

[Omnivorous Frog]

So why would anyone care if JJ threatens to turn someone into the feds which is an obvious joke?

You are the best jj could summon up? Why isn't he here answering to this instead of you a third string debater. You have not even understood the easiest to comprehend issues.

Feds are going to love you illegal credit sheets
good luck in prison you cheap jew scum

You worthless Jew. Burn you fukkin jew

Could you try to at least comprehend what this harmless post is all about. More nonsense, and an obvious joke. Even jj's defenders are nonsense.

[BatemanPatrickl]

You are the best jj could summon up? Why isn't he here answering to this instead of you a third string debater. You have not even understood the easiest to comprehend issues.




Feds are going to love you illegal credit sheets
good luck in prison you cheap jew scum

You worthless Jew. Burn you fukkin jew




Could you try to at least comprehend what this harmless post is all about. More nonsense, and an obvious joke. Even jj's defenders are nonsense.

So instead of debating me, you attack me. Makes sense. So was the above post meant for a player? If so, feds won't waste manpower and money to come after a player. Look at the steroid scandal, they are going after big dealers. Not John Smith and his two cycles.

[Omnivorous Frog]

You just can't communicate with a sack of rocks.

[BatemanPatrickl]

You are the best jj could summon up? Why isn't he here answering to this instead of you a third string debater. You have not even understood the easiest to comprehend issues.




Feds are going to love you illegal credit sheets
good luck in prison you cheap jew scum

You worthless Jew. Burn you fukkin jew




Could you try to at least comprehend what this harmless post is all about. More nonsense, and an obvious joke. Even jj's defenders are nonsense.

I am not defending JJ, I am saying that:

1) To think individuals players should be concerned about JJ calling the FEDS on them is unrealistic.
2) Name calling is fine as long as certain people are calling the names.
3) Double standards are fine as long as long as certain people benefit.
4) Starting posts flaming members in fine as long as certain people start them

Do I have everything right?

[BatemanPatrickl]

You just can't communicate with a sack of rocks.

Classic response. Can't beat em', insult em'. Thank you for the exciting debate today. Let me know when the FEDS break down your door because JJ sent them.

[capitalist pig]

You two should just give each other your phone #s and spare the rest of us all this back and forth bs. Maybe a mod will come and move it to the private zone.

later

[BatemanPatrickl]

You two should just give each other your phone #s and spare the rest of us all this back and forth bs. Maybe a mod will come and move it to the private zone.

later

I agree but this was posted in a public forum by the author. If you notice, I did attack or flame anyone. I simply posted my opinion on the topic at hand and was attacked by at least three other members.

The post itself should have never been authored because it was meant to attack another member.

[Omnivorous Frog]

I am not defending JJ, I am saying that:

1) To think individuals players should be concerned about JJ calling the FEDS on them is unrealistic.
2) Name calling is fine as long as certain people are calling the names.
3) Double standards are fine as long as long as certain people benefit.
4) Starting posts flaming members in fine as long as certain people start them

Do I have everything right?

You jumped into this thread defending him from post #1 on.
Appreciate your appearance.

1) I don't like snitches. I don't like persons threatening to be snitches.
2) Racists rants and directs attacks on a person's race don't work for me either.
3) Accusations of illegal drug activity are uncalled for.
4) It is obvious by your posts you are without a clue and jj is going to leave you to defend him. Nothing changes.

[BatemanPatrickl]

You jumped into this thread defending him from post #1 on.
Appreciate your appearance.

1) I don't like snitches. I don't like persons threatening to be snitches.
2) Racists rants and directs attacks on a person's race don't work for me either.
3) Accusations of illegal drug activity are uncalled for.
4) It is obvious by your posts you are without a clue and jj is going to leave you to defend him. Nothing changes.

Attacked again. I never defended JJ, I posted my opinion which you asked for by posting this in a PUBLIC forum.

[JBC77]

You people are absolutely crazy.

[BatemanPatrickl]

You jumped into this thread defending him from post #1 on.
Appreciate your appearance.

1) I don't like snitches. I don't like persons threatening to be snitches.
2) Racists rants and directs attacks on a person's race don't work for me either.
3) Accusations of illegal drug activity are uncalled for.
4) It is obvious by your posts you are without a clue and jj is going to leave you to defend him. Nothing changes.

Should I bump the post about someone who snitched to EBAY when he wasn't even invloved in a transaction?

[BatemanPatrickl]

You jumped into this thread defending him from post #1 on.
Appreciate your appearance.

1) I don't like snitches. I don't like persons threatening to be snitches.
2) Racists rants and directs attacks on a person's race don't work for me either.
3) Accusations of illegal drug activity are uncalled for.
4) It is obvious by your posts you are without a clue and jj is going to leave you to defend him. Nothing changes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tacomax

Managed to locate the account from the auction number and I've just reported that account to ebay for selling bootlegs.

[MBENZ]

You jumped into this thread defending him from post #1 on.
Appreciate your appearance.

1) I don't like snitches. I don't like persons threatening to be snitches.
2) Racists rants and directs attacks on a person's race don't work for me either.
3) Accusations of illegal drug activity are uncalled for.
4) It is obvious by your posts you are without a clue and jj is going to leave you to defend him. Nothing changes.

Frog,I have found your post to be rather informative and to the point,but I'm afraid you are fighting a losing battle with Bateman.It goes back to the old saying "never waste your time trying to have a battle of wits with one that has no weapons".

[Mudcat]

I'm curious. I don't know if John or any other SBR people will answer but I'll ask:

Is jj currently being paid for his posting at SBR?

[BatemanPatrickl]

I'm curious. I don't know if John or any other SBR people will answer but I'll ask:

Is jj currently being paid for his posting at SBR?

I am going to say that I lean towards YES. With all of my posts, someone should pay me as well

[BatemanPatrickl]

If your goal is to cause me to me lose any respect I might somehow have for you then you're doing an excellent job.

I don't like to defend the guy GANCH but if I am not mistaken, he was quoting JJ from another board.

[Ganchrow]

I don't like to defend the guy GANCH but if I am not mistaken, he was quoting JJ from another board.

You're completely right. That was my mistake. Thank you for pointing that out, Patrick.

My apologies to Frog.

[BatemanPatrickl]

You're completely right. That was my mistake. Thank you for pointing that out, Patrick.

My apologies to Frog.

I do not agree with how I was attacked and call several names on this thread but such is life. Good luck with your plays if you have any tonight Ganch.

[raiders72002]

Frog - Nice to see you here. How long before they expose you like they did at the RX, EOG and OGD.

At least you are an interesting character even though you are full of shit. How long before you start posting in the third person again?

[raiders72002]

Frog likes to pick on others so here's some quotes for those that know Frog:


THE SHRINK when Frog claimed to be moving lines:

I am shocked NONE of you sharpies realized this. If you call Don Best, and ask them what time many of their listed books moved their totals the past few days, ALL of them moved about 10 minutes to an HOUR BEFORE Froggie posted his Totals...

Bull crap Froggie, a syndicate I know well is and it is NOT you...

Maybe you can get away with this elsewhere, but not here...

And like I said, nothing wrong with following steam, but please don't LIE..

Unreal...
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By Rainbow (Offshore Bookie):

I just wish you are as brave in person as you are on a website. Frog you might have alot of other posters BS how smart you think you are, but I would book you in a heart beat. you bragg too much to be anybody I would respect. Son remember one thing smart people dont brag how sharp they are, the ones that brag are the ones in line at the Bank making a loan. that fits you perfect the person in line at the Bank making a loan.

Caliente
Banned

Join Date: Oct 05, 2005
Posts: 1,485

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I believe Mofome seeks positive attention which I see nothing wrong with. Omnivorous Frog on the other hand is so deperate for attention that he posts winning picks after the games are already over and exaggerates/lies about his record. Plus he is an asshole to complete strangers. If that doesnt spell attention whore then nothing does.

0-17-05, 09:21 AM #13 Pancho Sanza
EOG Addicted

Froggy in fine form, some past posting and the cigar, jacuzzi, handjob bit is back.I love it.

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[Mudcat]

You are the best jj could summon up? Why isn't he here answering to this instead of you a third string debater. You have not even understood the easiest to comprehend issues.

That gave me my chuckle of the early evening. But I can understand your frustration.

I suppose I have seen enough of jj's shtick that I could fill in for him better than our weaponless friend. Basically it goes like this:

When he has no actual defense, as he wouldn't in this case since it is his own words in question, he would weasel away from the point and try to point fingers at the messenger. In the absence of facts, he tends to make something up. Like so:

OF is just a scammer. He goes around scamming a lot. He is a well-known scammer.

Then some zaniness:

I am the most respected in the business. I saved this forum.

And then some "humor" which has been recycling for a good 6-8 years.

I am wearing my mink coat while going to see a prostitute.

So in summary, the jj defense would look like this:



OF is just a scammer. He goes around scamming a lot. He is a well-known scammer. I am the most respected in the business. I saved this forum. I am wearing a mink coat while going to see a prostitute.

[raiders72002]

Mudcat- Nice to see you aligned yourself with a BS artist. Frog moves for some horse players at offshore books not part of the parimutuel pool.

Besides that he just plays big shot like yourself.

[SBR_John]

I don't think threatening to turn people into the feds is very funny, or amusing either. Racist rants and internet threats, I guess SBR just looks past all that for the good side of jj, keep looking. The Shrink made the same mistake, and look where that ended up. His site never got off the ground because of jj's act from day one. Now he sits on sbr saying The Shrink is doing coke. Are you next in line John?

We of course would not allow anything even close to what you mentioned here frog. JJ Gold is as welcome as anyone to post. And we give guys a lot of room. Maybe I will be next on JJ's list. I don't worry about those things. This is kind of a tough business at times. Sometimes guys get out of hand. They will be handled in a professional way if they need to be.

[jjgold]

When you bet big numbers you tend to have huge mood swings on posting boards. I am not here to tap dance with guys, I am here to spot weak numbers and pound them. I am here to teach and advise on what books to play at. Many guys here are too young to understand.

[rolemand]

If you tell me you are joking when you say this then I will amend my opinion of you from "utter dimwit" where it currently stands back to "immature loser" where it was previously.

this is just like Poker. You watch how a guy plays awhile and you develop an opinion of the player whom you've never met based on what you've seen. In this case he's graciously opened his notebook to you, so that you may see the notes he's taken on you to this point.

[tacomax]

Quote:

Originally Posted by tacomax

Managed to locate the account from the auction number and I've just reported that account to ebay for selling bootlegs.

Did you ever consider - even for a second - that that was posted in jest? It wouldn't have taken an overly intellectual mind to at least consider that conclusion. In the future I'll asterisk all my non-serious posts so it doesn't confuse you.

By the way, the tooth fairy isn't real. Nor is Santa Claus.

[Santo]

Everybody knows the real one is Santo Claus!

[tacomax]

Ba-doom, tish.

[isetcap]

this is just like Poker. You watch how a guy plays awhile and you develop an opinion of the player whom you've never met based on what you've seen. In this case he's graciously opened his notebook to you, so that you may see the notes he's taken on you to this point.

Perfect analogy. I don't know why he got so worked up about it. I was only sharing. Now I've had to add a few more notes. I'm sure I'll feel friendly again someday and then I'll share those also.

[BatemanPatrickl]

Did you ever consider - even for a second - that that was posted in jest? It wouldn't have taken an overly intellectual mind to at least consider that conclusion. In the future I'll asterisk all my non-serious posts so it doesn't confuse you.

By the way, the tooth fairy isn't real. Nor is Santa Claus.

You just proved my point. Thank you Tacomax for pointing out that JJ posting about calling the feds on people was in jest. It's amazing how clearly you see your side of view but you can't even look at the simple facts right in front of your nose.

And I doubt your post was in jest; I believe you would do something like that every day if you had the chance.

[BatemanPatrickl]

Perfect analogy. I don't know why he got so worked up about it. I was only sharing. Now I've had to add a few more notes. I'm sure I'll feel friendly again someday and then I'll share those also.

You do that. Put that Harvard business degree to work and tell everyone what I am. I like "immature loser" the best!