Is Messi the greatest sportsman of all time

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  • slayer14
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    • 08-12-13
    • 22329

    #1
    Is Messi the greatest sportsman of all time
    He literally carried Argentina to one world cup win and a final, and also his glorious club career winning trophies and goal scoring record is unmatched?
  • pavyracer
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-12-07
    • 83110

    #2
    Originally posted by slayer14
    He literally carried Argentina to one world cup win and a final, and also his glorious club career winning trophies and goal scoring record is unmatched?
    Pele has 3 world cups. I'd put him above Messi. He was ahead of his time.
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    • slayer14
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      • 08-12-13
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      #3
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      • k13
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        • 07-16-10
        • 18625

        #4
        They are aways top 3 favorites and playing against bums majority of the time and when they don't then it is automatic penalty.

        He couldn't even make CL semis with PSG stacked team and as soon as he leaves they won everything.

        Lost every CL with Barcelona as soon as the team wasn't beyond stacked. Lost CL for like a decade.

        Beats bums in WC, gets lucky against semi bum Switzerland because of a fake red card. Gets lucky against choker England and even bigger bum Kane. Gets away with a million fouls. Steal game against Egypt.

        Fifa has to promise to help him so he wouldn't retire because the crybaby sucked so bad.

        The casuals are so dumb and embarrassing.
        Open your eyes for once.

        He scores maybe at like a 20% clip against top teams.
        He can't even score one goal against Brazil in his life.
        Don't bring up friendlies.

        You know all those Jewish "plants" in the media.
        Messi is the equivalent of that in sports.

        He was way younger on PSG why couldn't he do anything?
        Insert excuses.
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        • k13
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 07-16-10
          • 18625

          #5
          Best player ever because he beat barely beat Cabo Verde and Egypt with the refs help.

          Where was he against Bayern and RM in R16 for PSG
          4 games. Zero goals. Useless.

          Let him play for Bolivia and see how far he makes in the world cup.

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          • k13
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            • 07-16-10
            • 18625

            #6
            Best player ever but they give him the same odds to score as Oyzabal
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            • k13
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-16-10
              • 18625

              #7
              If Messi is the best, what's that make Hugo Cuypers?
              He can outscore him with less games.

              The World Cup has become such a joke with all these garbage teams. So embarrassing to watch.

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              • slayer14
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                • 08-12-13
                • 22329

                #8
                Originally posted by pavyracer

                Pele has 3 world cups. I'd put him above Messi. He was ahead of his time.
                Pele was injured during 1 world cup and only played 2 finals
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                • pavyracer
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-12-07
                  • 83110

                  #9
                  Originally posted by slayer14

                  Pele was injured during 1 world cup and only played 2 finals
                  Still better than Messi. Back then they didn't have yellow and red cards so they kicked the crap out of Pele to make him get injured. With Messi they whistle for a foul before they even touch him.
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                  • slewfan
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                    • 10-01-15
                    • 16521

                    #10
                    I sorta agree with K13 to some extent. Argentina gets ALL the calls. What’s scary about the final is that it seems like FIFA wants Messi to win two cups in a row. I may not bet the game but if the over/ under is 3 or less, I’ll take my chances with over… but I must admit, the pass to the guy who scored the winning goal was a world class pass. Amazing really.. but England was simply horrible. I’d be surprised if the England coach survives…

                    I actually feel somewhat the same about Ovechkin. I don’t think he’s a GREAT hockey player. A great scorer, yes.. His +/- has been totally upside down for such a prolific scorer. He is always in on the Power plays and just stands around. Every once in a small while, he will throw a check on some unsuspecting player against the boards. And usually he’s twice the size of the guy.. he never takes face offs and never has to play against the other teams power-play. The only reason why he won a Stanley cup is because the National Hockey League gave it to him through the refs against a first year team. He signed for another year. Just another year Washington fans don’t have to worry about playoff tickets…
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                    • Optional
                      Moderator
                      • 06-10-10
                      • 64518

                      #11
                      It has to be arguable that Maradona carried Argentina to a world cup win even more single handedly than Messi.

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                      • slayer14
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                        • 08-12-13
                        • 22329

                        #12
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                        • packerd_00
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                          • 05-22-13
                          • 18076

                          #13
                          No he isn't. Are we talking all sports?
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                          • k13
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 07-16-10
                            • 18625

                            #14
                            Useless again like I said.
                            Just scores against bums and penalties.

                            Can't even get a shot on net.
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