I cant believe what I just read..........

[TheLock]

LOL @ 45K being a nice score.

It's fvcking pennies when you're forbidden from doing anything else.


You guys.

[mmike032]

Tsop, have you ever had a job?
not everyone is born with a silver spoon shoved in their mouth and have to do what needs to be done to survive

[Masu485]

Tsop, have you ever had a job?
not everyone is born with a silver spoon shoved in their mouth and have to do what needs to be done to survive

these guys don't know what it's like to ever be poor and struggling to survive. so they can't comprehend my anger.

[Tsoprano]

Tsop, have you ever had a job?
not everyone is born with a silver spoon shoved in their mouth and have to do what needs to be done to survive

No, I dropped out of school and started my business with practically nothing and now can feel proud of what it has become and what it is growing into each week. If you knew a bit about me outside of the forum you would know I am a take life by the balls kind of guy. Do whatever is necessary even if a few corners get cut in the process. And I do not mean for this post to sound snappy as I have a lot of respect for you Mike.

My point is vegas dave should not put himself in a position where he just needs to survive. He comes from a good background and should be able to put his education to use and be a little higher on the ladder in life.

[Tsoprano]

these guys don't know what it's like to ever be poor and struggling to survive. so they can't comprehend my anger.

What did I say? If someone is in DIRE STRAIGHTS IT IS WORTH IT... no question. But VD is young with a lot of potential and has his whole life ahead of him and do not think he should lock himself into being an SBR slave for 45k.

[mmike032]

understood.
what kind of business do you own?

my point is you take jobs to survive and work your way to better paying gigs if you desire. you cant just hold out for the the million a yr job and sit around waiting on it to fall in your lap. you gotta pay your dues

[smitch124]

Jeez guys, there is no one way to live. Each person has different priorities, people in the US tend to be more interested in material things, thats just simply part of the culture. Kind of a silly argument.

[Tsoprano]

understood.
what kind of business do you own?

my point is you take jobs to survive and work your way to better paying gigs if you desire. you cant just hold out for the the million a yr job and sit around waiting on it to fall in your lap. you gotta pay your dues

Bookmaker

And yes, no question about the 2nd part of your post. I did not mean to sound snotty with my original replies, but I was talking from being in Vegas' position coming right out of a good college.

[FrozenMAN]

lol 20k is enough to "easily live on" LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

that might get ya the LARGE washing machine box AND a couple microwave boxes LOLOL

[wtf]

it was his first job out of college

maybe i am out of touch, but sounds like he did well with his first job

[Tsoprano]

it was his first job out of college

maybe i am out of touch, but sounds like he did well with his first job

He had to move all the way out to Texas where he knew nobody, was planning on staying there for a long time as far as I know, he missed spending Thanksgiving with his family over the whole SBR firing. I don't think it went that well for him.

[pokernut9999]

It is more than the average salary in the US.

[CarpeDime]

No human being can live on 45k a year. After taxes is about 30K. That is $2500 a month.

Rent: $600
Utilities: $300
Cell: $100
Car Payment: $300
Car Insurance: $100
Med Insurance: $300
Gas: $200
Food: $500
Cigarettes: $150
Alcohol: $100

This is more than $2500 a month.

These numbers are way off. Should be:

Rent: $900
Utilities: $100
Cell: $50
Car Payment: $300
Car Insurance: $100
Med Insurance: $0
Gas: $200
Food: $600
Cigarettes: $0
Alcohol: $100

gotta live in a nice place, 900
utils 300?? get real
cell is 50
med insurance, go without
food, live a little, i bumped it up
stop smoking

So I see 2150

So $400 a month left over for extra stuff

[Tsoprano]

These numbers are way off. Should be:

Rent: $900
Utilities: $100
Cell: $50
Car Payment: $300
Car Insurance: $100
Med Insurance: $0
Gas: $200
Food: $600
Cigarettes: $0
Alcohol: $100

gotta live in a nice place, 900
utils 300?? get real
cell is 50
med insurance, go without
food, live a little, i bumped it up
stop smoking

So I see 2150

So $400 a month left over for extra stuff

And $900 still sounds like a conservative figure for rent. But I am not familiar with Texas so will not post any costs as I would be guessing.

I think I read somewhere though that SBR provides housing, the "SBR House" or something. It was probably a joke but if it wasn't that changes everything.

[mmike032]

it was his first job out of college

maybe i am out of touch, but sounds like he did well with his first job

most these fvks here live off the mommy/daddy fund

[flyingillini]

Wow I didn't see that. I'm about to read through the whole thread.

You gotta understand though Richkas, 45k and he is NOT ALLOWED to do anything else with his time. JUST SBR. 45k is not enough money at all to live. At least here in NYC it isn't but I wouldn't settle for making 45k a year. Thats $865 a week and after renting a semi-decent place you are left with a couple hundred dollars. Cell phone bill, food, beer, clothes, cable bill/internet, insurance, gas if he has a car, etc etc etc make it where life is just a big break even (possible living in the red). Oh and I forgot one expense he would also have that dips into the 45k per year.... GAMBLING! Who knows what even controlled gambling can add up to in a year's time.

That would put me in major major debt. It is all relative, I do know that here in Santa Barbara that would put you in Poverty level.

[CarpeDime]

whoops, my budget actually comes to 2350

ok so you got 200 left over for extras

[pokernut9999]

It all depends where you live guys , I have a 3000 square foot home on 4 acres that cost $190K.

In some cities that would be triple or more , i know a lot of people that live on far less than 45K a year.

[pavyracer]

How can you have utilities $100? Do you steal the heat, electricity, water, cable, phone and internet from the neighbors? If you can get all 5 with $100 a month I'm moving with you.

[mmike032]

And $900 still sounds like a conservative figure for rent. But I am not familiar with Texas so will not post any costs as I would be guessing.

I think I read somewhere though that SBR provides housing, the "SBR House" or something. It was probably a joke but if it wasn't that changes everything.

I own a modest size house and pay $500 a month mortage.
APTs rent for $300 and up depending on # of bedrooms.
its all relative to the area of the country.
a house in NY that goes for million would go here for $100K

[flyingillini]

No human being can live on 45k a year. After taxes is about 30K. That is $2500 a month.

Rent: $600
Utilities: $300
Cell: $100
Car Payment: $300
Car Insurance: $100
Med Insurance: $300
Gas: $200
Food: $500
Cigarettes: $150
Alcohol: $100

This is more than $2500 a month.

600 a month doesn't get a room to rent here in Santa Barbara.

[mmike032]

How can you have utilities $100? Do you steal the heat, electricity, water, cable, phone and internet for the neighbors? If you can get all 5 with $100 a month I'm moving with you.

was thinking that also.
average elect -$200
cable $130
trash/water -$50
for me

[CarpeDime]

illini why don't YOU hire the guy??

fukin throw him 60k, give the kid a nice life, throw in some weight-loss-based incentives

[Tsoprano]

I own a modest size house and pay $500 a month mortage.
APTs rent for $300 and up depending on # of bedrooms.
its all relative to the area of the country.
a house in NY that goes for million would go here for $100K

Ah

I am out of my element then to argue rent costs. A hole in the wall around here is roughly 3k+ a month.

But I still think 45k a year is not what VegasDave is fully capable of.

[blittydeuce]

wow

[mmike032]

McDonalds in Cali - probally upwards of $10 an hr
McDonalds in Ga - $5.50 an hr or whatever minimum wage is

its all relative


go to mexico and be rich making 45K

[CarpeDime]

How can you have utilities $100? Do you steal the heat, electricity, water, cable, phone and internet for the neighbors? If you can get all 5 with $100 a month I'm moving with you.

i dont know, all i know is NYC

in NYC utils are 100 or less

in summer with AC double it I guess

heat and water are fukin free dude

you can get cable/internet packages cheap

[flyingillini]

I would't take any job for 45k a year. Just more ambitious then to settle for that. Plus I wouldn't work for anyone anyway. I prefer to be my own boss, not a spoke of a company.

SBR pulls in millions of dollars a year. They spent over 100k easy on the SBR Bash. They can afford to throw a mod 45k a year easily.

I pay my Supervisor close to 63k a year and I get poor quality performance out of her. It is all relative, I have friends that make 50k a year and they are happy and I know multi millionares around here that aren't happy. I do know if I made 45k a year I would be very upset and depressed all the time. I strived for more for my life though. Some people just settle, not me. I always want to make more and want more.
It would put me in major major debt if I made that amount.

[ttwarrior1]

what is vd? a disease?

[Tsoprano]

i strived for more for my life though. Some people just settle, not me. I always want to make more and want more.

+1

.

[CarpeDime]

I pay my Supervisor close to 63k a year and I get poor quality performance out of her. It is all relative, I have friends that make 50k a year and they are happy and I know multi millionares around here that aren't happy. I do know if I made 45k a year I would be very upset and depressed all the time. I strived for more for my life though. Some people just settle, not me. I always want to make more and want more.
It would put me in major major debt if I made that amount.

thats why you fukin blast that PINK sh*t while everyone else is just blasting standard-issue white after-school special sh*t thats been stepped on 3 times

[flyingillini]

thats why you fukin blast that PINK sh*t while everyone else is just blasting standard-issue white after-school special sh*t thats been stepped on 3 times

Loshak, I am sorry we didn't get to share the same straw at the bash. Next year for sure buddy. I wouldn't even think about putting something up my nose if it didn't come from my hook. I know where it comes from and right off the bird.

[blittydeuce]

Loshak, I am sorry we didn't get to share the same straw at the bash. Next year for sure buddy. I wouldn't even think about putting something up my nose if it didn't come from my hook. I know where it comes from and right off the bird.

Carpe takes Monster Lines

[pavyracer]

i dont know, all i know is NYC

in NYC utils are 100 or less

in summer with AC double it I guess

heat and water are fukin free dude

you can get cable/internet packages cheap

When I said $300 for utilities I lumped everything together..not just heat/AC. If you look at my breakdown there is no cable/phone/internet package deal.

Do you mean heat and water bill is included with rent you pay to landlord? It is not free. What if you own a house?

[lakerboy]

you fukking piece of shit americans! you all make so much money and don't appreciate shit! 45k is more than plenty to live on (NYC excluded). especially for posting on a fukking forum. it's fukking upsetting to read this bullshit! you can live on $20k per year easily. if you stop stuffing ur fukking faces maybe u'd have some money left over at the end of the month.

do you live underneath a bridge guy? 45 k is jack shit. what the fukk is wrong with you? how the hell can you live on 20 k unless you live with your mom and dad, get a clue, grow a pair and get into the real world