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  • Masu485
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-14-08
    • 7700

    #1
    My Bankroll Disappeared....
    and I won my last wager too! I withdraw and deposit through Instadebit. I had to reload through them on Sunday after the Jets loss. I didn't want to transfer the money from my credit card to my bank account (I had 0$ dollars in my bank account) because it would charge me $2.50 and just said to myself "well i can save a couple of bucks, i have $20 on me, I can just deposit with Instadebit now (they say you have up to a day after to pay it) and go to the bank first thing tomorrow morning to deposit the $20 so it'll be there for Instadebit.

    I did just that, deposited the night before and then put my money in the bank the next day, won my next two wagers (mondays and tuesdays).

    Today I get an email saying that my Instadebit account has been blocked because there weren't sufficient funds in my bank account. I look at my bank account online and first i see that my instadebit deposit was returned plus I incurred a not sufficient funds fee and now I'm at -17.15 in my bank account. I go to my pinnacle account, and i have $0.00 in my pinny account.

    They sent back the original $20 PLUS cancelled my two recent winnings because it was derived from that money. What makes me furious also is that I had about $9.00 left in my account before I decided to reload on Sunday, and even that's gone now for some reason, maybe penalties incurred by Instadebit also.

    I don't know what the fukk happened, but I just won my last two wagers and now I have less money than I ever did. I have fukking nothing now, and have to reload with a credit card. I FUKKING WON MY LAST TWO FUKKING WAGERS AND THEY ARE TREATED LIKE LOSSES NOW! i've never been so pissed off
  • Housemoney
    SBR MVP
    • 09-17-09
    • 3912

    #2
    $20 is a bankroll?
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    • Masu485
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-14-08
      • 7700

      #3
      It was downtime for me, everyone's had times where they bet thousands and times when they bet $20.

      This was supposed to be a temporary thing, but all becasue I misunderstood the fukking deposit rules, my bank rapes me and now i have negative money in my bank account, and instadebit penalized me also i'm pretty sure, and pinny negated all my winnings.

      not only that, but my Instadebit account has been blocked and now I can't even redeposit.
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      • DrStale
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 12-07-08
        • 9692

        #4
        I would send something to Justin/Dozer about it if you feel you were screwed over. It's kind of confusing the way you wrote it here, but if they took your money without legitimate grounds you deserve that money back.

        That said, you really shouldn't be betting if your bank account is that low. Take a break and build it up so that you can play the right way. The way youre going is a great way to go broke even if they dont take your money illegitimately.
        Originally posted by Dark Horse
        If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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        • mathdotcom
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 03-24-08
          • 11689

          #5
          stiff
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          • johncrud
            SBR MVP
            • 04-06-09
            • 1322

            #6
            Kind of understood your story here.

            Your bank processed the money transfer to your instadebit a little too fast before you are able to deposit any money in the bank. Therefore, it is like a chain reaction here.

            If you didn't procrastinate and go to the bank and deposit that 20 bucks, this issue would not have happened.
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            • Masu485
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-14-08
              • 7700

              #7
              Originally posted by johncrud
              Kind of understood your story here.

              Your bank processed the money transfer to your instadebit a little too fast before you are able to deposit any money in the bank. Therefore, it is like a chain reaction here.

              If you didn't procrastinate and go to the bank and deposit that 20 bucks, this issue would not have happened.
              Yeah, I didn't really procrastinate. It was late at night, around 3am that I deposited, and was at the bank almost first thing in the morning to make sure my bank account had the money necessary. I guess I was a few minutes too late.

              I do feel a bit screwed because now:

              1. The bank took that original $20.00
              2. Gave me a not sufficient funds fee of $20.00
              3. Pinnacle negated both my wins for $40.00.
              4. Instadebit apparently has fees as well now and so far it seems they have taken ~$9.00 from my Pinny account.
              5. My Instadebit acount is now blocked and I can't redeposit at any book now.

              and all just because I wanted to save the fukking $2.50 service charge from transferring the funds from my credit card to my bank account.
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              • Masu485
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 08-14-08
                • 7700

                #8
                I just e-mailed Pinnacle and Instadebit.

                Pinnacle will not reinstate my wins, so I lost both those. And my bank stands by the fees.

                So I lost the wins, the initial deposit, and have to pay the NSF bank fee.

                Now I'm basically fighting for the initial $9.00 I had in my Pinnacle account, and for my Instadebit account to be unblocked.

                This seriously sucks guys. I try to save $2.50 and it ends up costing me almost $100 all for nothing and my Instadebit account is blocked. I'm not even angry, I just want to cry.
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                • paco
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 05-07-09
                  • 62873

                  #9
                  If u have a good bank standing, they will usually waive the fee if u call the 800 #
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                  • Masu485
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 08-14-08
                    • 7700

                    #10
                    god DAMMIT. I WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE CANES TONIGHT AND OF COURSE THEY WIN! THAT'S THREE FUKKING LOSSES THEY COST ME AND TRYING TO HIT 55% W/ ONLY ONE PLAY PER DAY, EVERY WIN COUNTS.

                    I STILL CAN'T FUKKING BELIEVE THIS HAPPENED. INSTADEBIT IS NOW AVOIDING ME AND PROBABLY WON'T UNBLOCK MY ACCOUNT, AND THE ONLY THING I CAN FIGHT FOR IS MY ORIGINAL $9.04 FROM PINNY. FUKKING BULLSHIT I'LL FUKKING BREAK EVERYBODY. I'M EMAILING JUSTIN.
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                    • DrStale
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 12-07-08
                      • 9692

                      #11
                      Dude, use this to re-evaluate how you're living your life. If 20 bucks here and there is doing this to you then you should not be gambling. Take a break and walk away. Yeah this sucks but if you were only gambling a tiny fraction of your bankroll at a time this wouldn't destroy you the way it has.
                      Originally posted by Dark Horse
                      If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                      • Masu485
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-14-08
                        • 7700

                        #12
                        I have money that I consider part of my Bankroll, but I don't necessarily keep it all at Pinny. I would redeposit as necessary. Now I find my Bankrolled wiped out, and my Instadebit blocked so I can't even redeposit.

                        And I've been there, where $100 was shit to me, and I'd throw that away on an 8 team parlay, I've been on that side of things, but this year I find myself betting less but enjoying it just as much. I think I have a right to get furious at all this. How would you like it if you opened your book one day and ur account was at $0.00 after having 3 winning nights in a row, growing your BR by ~10%, then you go to your bank account and find a negative number when it was positive the day before?
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                        • tltaylor89
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 06-19-09
                          • 19610

                          #13
                          Look all you have to to is claim that someone stole youre debit card bank refunds the charges you get a new debit card and knowones hurt they never investigate those things.Unless someone keeps doing it over and over
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                          • 1st and Ten
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-13-09
                            • 5131

                            #14
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                            • 1st and Ten
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 11-13-09
                              • 5131

                              #15
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                              • PAPSMEAR
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-13-09
                                • 2581

                                #16
                                for that type of money I wouldn't be gettin too upset. it'll cause you more grief than its worth. just suck it up and put it down to experience.
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                                • DrStale
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 12-07-08
                                  • 9692

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Masu485
                                  I have money that I consider part of my Bankroll, but I don't necessarily keep it all at Pinny. I would redeposit as necessary. Now I find my Bankrolled wiped out, and my Instadebit blocked so I can't even redeposit. And I've been there, where $100 was shit to me, and I'd throw that away on an 8 team parlay, I've been on that side of things, but this year I find myself betting less but enjoying it just as much. I think I have a right to get furious at all this. How would you like it if you opened your book one day and ur account was at $0.00 after having 3 winning nights in a row, growing your BR by ~10%, then you go to your bank account and find a negative number when it was positive the day before?
                                  You had $0 in your bank account. You had to make a special trip to deposit $20 just to cover a deposit. Do you need to get hit over the head with this to realize you shouldn't be gambling? If the action is that important bet SBR points or something.
                                  Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                  If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                  • 1st and Ten
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 11-13-09
                                    • 5131

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DrStale
                                    You had $0 in your bank account. You had to make a special trip to deposit $20 just to cover a deposit. Do you need to get hit over the head with this to realize you shouldn't be gambling? If the action is that important bet SBR points or something.

                                    moreover...he has enough points to load at least 100.00
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                                    • Masu485
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 08-14-08
                                      • 7700

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by 1st and Ten
                                      moreover...he has enough points to load at least 100.00
                                      I thought of that today, but they GOT RID of all the Pinny free plays and Pinny cash at the SBR store. That got me even more angry.
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                                      • Masu485
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 08-14-08
                                        • 7700

                                        #20
                                        Of course, just started talks with Instadebit to reactivate account, and now they have a $25.00 fee also. This whole thing is total bullshit now. That's 3 companies screwed me all in one day. It's shit like this that makes people assholes and have no mercy on anyone now. This fukking changed me for the worse.
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                                        • PayUpSukka
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 12-09-09
                                          • 150

                                          #21
                                          Ain't no rest for the wicked....
                                          next time go SUPPORT YOU LOCAL BOOKMAKER!!!
                                          AVOID THESE TROUBLES!
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                                          • PayUpSukka
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 12-09-09
                                            • 150

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DrStale
                                            Dude, use this to re-evaluate how you're living your life. If 20 bucks here and there is doing this to you then you should not be gambling. Take a break and walk away. Yeah this sucks but if you were only gambling a tiny fraction of your bankroll at a time this wouldn't destroy you the way it has.
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                                            • PayUpSukka
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 12-09-09
                                              • 150

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by 1st and Ten
                                              moreover...he has enough points to load at least 100.00
                                              Good point!
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