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  • vanman
    SBR MVP
    • 02-08-07
    • 1163

    #1
    bookmaker complaints
    Are there any books out there that no one has a complaint about,no payout problems,no scams on fees,limits etc
  • kiwi
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 08-11-05
    • 674

    #2
    I guess you won't find them on earth.
    But nevertheless there are books which only cause very few problems and have rather high limits. Here is a mix of several books/exchanges I like which are useful for different kinds of sports:

    us-sports:
    - Pinnacle (simply the best here)
    - BetCris (early lines)
    - TheGreek (I still recommend them in general even if I had that
    cancelled bet problem)
    - Canbet (also good in soccer as they copy odds of s-b-o-b-e-t)
    - Intertops (limits but has interesting odds)

    soccer:
    - s-b-o-b-e-t
    - ibcbet (these two are the best soccer books arround)
    - Mansion88 (for soccer bettors who feel more secure with
    the financial background of Mansion )

    other european sports:
    - Centrebet (very good book IMO)
    - Expekt (good as long you are not too much limited)
    - Betathome (limits but it lasts a while and there are some clone
    sites)

    exchanges:
    - Betfair (highest volume but bad customer support and high
    fees)
    - Mansion (not as good as before but still useful)
    - Betdaq
    - Betsson (offers soccer half time betting)
    - MatchMyWager (1% commission for former Pointbet customers)
    - Matchbook
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    • DrunkenLullaby
      SBR MVP
      • 03-30-07
      • 1631

      #3
      Originally posted by kiwi

      soccer:
      - s-b-o-b-e-t
      - ibcbet (these two are the best soccer books arround)
      - Mansion88 (for soccer bettors who feel more secure with
      the financial background of Mansion )

      Do SBO & IBC accept Americans to your knowledge? I'm on the SBO site and can't find a link to even attempt to sign up.
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      • kiwi
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 08-11-05
        • 674

        #4
        I have never heared that the asian books exclude us-american players but I don't know it for sure. Just ask the customer service. Anyway you need to contact the customer service to open an account. Soon at least s-b-o-b-e-t will offer Moneybookers (besides bank wire) to fund the account.
        Another posibility is to contact an agent who will create an account for you (there you can already use Moneybookers).
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        • Maledetto
          SBR Hustler
          • 07-21-06
          • 53

          #5
          SBO
          IBC
          Crown
          Royal (the Asian one NOT that crappy op from Costa Rica)
          188bet
          All reputable books that accept Americans.
          Mansion88 don't accept 'em.


          Agents are the way to go with Asian books but never just pick somebody off the net, you'll just be asking for trouble. Network your way around and find someone to refer you, it's much safer for you, the agent, and the book.
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          • spliff
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 07-16-06
            • 547

            #6
            Originally posted by Maledetto
            Royal (the Asian one NOT that crappy op from Costa Rica)

            I don't know much about the Asian one, but this guy is right on with his assessment of the Costa Rican Royal
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              matchbook
              wsex
              bet jamaica
              wagerstreet
              greek
              carib
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              • Mark Shark
                SBR Sharp
                • 03-29-07
                • 445

                #8
                Who are s-b-o-b-e-t and IBCBET????

                Forgive my ignorance but is the first one Sportingbet??
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                • kiwi
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 08-11-05
                  • 674

                  #9
                  No, it's a big asian book.
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                  • RickySteve
                    Restricted User
                    • 01-31-06
                    • 3415

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jjgold
                    matchbook
                    wsex
                    bet jamaica
                    wagerstreet
                    greek
                    carib
                    You realize that's only 3 books right JJ?
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                    • vanman
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-08-07
                      • 1163

                      #11
                      didn`t think bet at home were any good.
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                      • kiwi
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 08-11-05
                        • 674

                        #12
                        Originally posted by vanman
                        didn`t think bet at home were any good.
                        Their odds are sometimes moving slowly and opposite to other slow books they take rather high stakes and at least from my own experience always pay out fast without any problems.

                        For example yesterday night I got odds there for 'Köln against Bayern München' of 5.60 and for the draw 3.6 - and for 'Hannover against Real Madrid' of 5.50 and for the draw 3.65. Then the same again with their good odds for double chance...
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                        • DrunkenLullaby
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-30-07
                          • 1631

                          #13
                          Since this is quickly developing into a soccer thread, I'll post this question here.

                          Does Pinny know something we don't?

                          Tue 7/31 625 Derby County * -1.5 and -2 -105
                          11:44 AM 626 Mansfield Town * +1.5 and +2 -103

                          I mean these teams are NOT playing each other today....right?
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                          • kiwi
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 08-11-05
                            • 674

                            #14
                            I only know that other books say Derby County would play against Nottingham this evening. But I didn't seek for more information.
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                            • DrunkenLullaby
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-30-07
                              • 1631

                              #15
                              Agreed. Also, thanks Kiwi for the info on SBO & IBC. I will be checking these guys out.
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                              • bigloser
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 07-19-06
                                • 787

                                #16
                                Originally posted by DrunkenLullaby
                                Agreed. Also, thanks Kiwi for the info on SBO & IBC. I will be checking these guys out.
                                IBC ah\\have following clause

                                "If an account is inactive for 12 months or longer, ibcbet.com reserves the right to forfeit the outstanding balance."

                                I had a bad experence with a book with a similar clause so wont use any book that says this now
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                                • kiwi
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 08-11-05
                                  • 674

                                  #17
                                  I also don't like rules like that but as I place bets there every day it's really no problem for me.
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                                  • vanman
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-08-07
                                    • 1163

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DrunkenLullaby
                                    Since this is quickly developing into a soccer thread, I'll post this question here.

                                    Does Pinny know something we don't?

                                    Tue 7/31 625 Derby County * -1.5 and -2 -105
                                    11:44 AM 626 Mansfield Town * +1.5 and +2 -103

                                    I mean these teams are NOT playing each other today....right?
                                    Derby definately play notts forest tonight
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                                    • DrunkenLullaby
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-30-07
                                      • 1631

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by kiwi
                                      For example yesterday night I got odds there for 'Köln against Bayern München' of 5.60 and for the draw 3.6 - and for 'Hannover against Real Madrid' of 5.50 and for the draw 3.65. Then the same again with their good odds for double chance...
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                                      • kiwi
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 08-11-05
                                        • 674

                                        #20
                                        Yes, both teams won.
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