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  • bigjake
    SBR Rookie
    • 12-06-05
    • 4

    #1
    Wwts
    Anybody but me having problems with wwts. I have been with them for about 3 years never had a problem until this season. It has been one stall tactic after another all year on my payouts, I have finally had enough started using Pinnacle and have had no problems. The thing I don't understand is I never had a problem at wwts until this year.
  • AK
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 08-10-05
    • 814

    #2
    Originally posted by bigjake
    Anybody but me having problems with wwts. I have been with them for about 3 years never had a problem until this season. It has been one stall tactic after another all year on my payouts, I have finally had enough started using Pinnacle and have had no problems. The thing I don't understand is I never had a problem at wwts until this year.
    YOUR NOT THE ONLY ONE
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    • jay88
      SBR Sharp
      • 09-14-05
      • 498

      #3
      Isn't WWTS an A book?
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      • picantel
        SBR MVP
        • 09-17-05
        • 4338

        #4
        I do not play there anymore. They did pay slowly. For the last couple of weeks I keep getting charges from them even though I am not depositing. bank has been notified.
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        • AK
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 08-10-05
          • 814

          #5
          Originally posted by picantel
          I do not play there anymore. They did pay slowly. For the last couple of weeks I keep getting charges from them even though I am not depositing. bank has been notified.
          Holly CRAP!

          Time to "try to withdraw" again for entire balance
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          • freebie
            SBR MVP
            • 08-10-05
            • 1174

            #6
            one of those stayaway kinda book. Never did like them
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            • jay88
              SBR Sharp
              • 09-14-05
              • 498

              #7
              Originally posted by freebie
              one of those stayaway kinda book.
              What do you mean? They have been around for a long long time...
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              • Dire-Wolf
                SBR Rookie
                • 11-18-05
                • 26

                #8
                Is just the fact they pay, a reason to have them rated A+? Just one year ago they were top on the recommended list. I could never understand how anybody could think they are any better than average. I've had no use for them in the last year and don't plan on ever using them again after hearing about these issues. If these things are true then their rating needs a big tumble.
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                • Quarm
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 10-03-05
                  • 313

                  #9
                  "Is paying out, and being a long time in the business a reason for A+?" No way...there is so many good books that ALWAYS pay, and pay FASTER.

                  WWTS is a B book for me now, the site isnt as good as it used to be. Talk about a crappy betcorp standard look...
                  Also they dont have the betting options that pinny, oly and the other REAL top books have.
                  They dont have good prices either, thinking about it i dont see any reason to play there now...
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                  • pats3peat
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-23-05
                    • 1163

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Quarm
                    "Is paying out, and being a long time in the business a reason for A+?" No way...there is so many good books that ALWAYS pay, and pay FASTER.

                    WWTS is a B book for me now, the site isnt as good as it used to be. Talk about a crappy betcorp standard look...
                    Also they dont have the betting options that pinny, oly and the other REAL top books have.
                    They dont have good prices either, thinking about it i dont see any reason to play there now...
                    you're right..

                    ihave no personal experience with them but if people are complaining.. it shouldnt be reccomended
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                    • fixxer
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-13-05
                      • 1877

                      #11
                      I use Wwts frequently without any problems yet...tho yes, the payouts sometimes slow for an A+ rated bookie...
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                      • slash
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-10-05
                        • 1000

                        #12
                        Probably the most overrated book.
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                        • pags11
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-18-05
                          • 12264

                          #13
                          agreed jughead...no specific complaints...need to play about $200 more to meet my rollover requirements and I'm done with these guys...
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                          • Dire-Wolf
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 11-18-05
                            • 26

                            #14
                            Anyone here feel like convincing us wwts is worthy of a A+?
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                            • AK
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 08-10-05
                              • 814

                              #15
                              Anyone here feel like convincing us wwts is worthy of a A+?
                              Will be tuff to find someone
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                              • clonecat
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-29-05
                                • 1225

                                #16
                                I requested a payout for $800 at 10:30 am today and received the funds at 4:30 pm. I must be one of the few who doesn't mind them as a book. I do like Cris a little better. Probably the only one without a Pinnacle account. I feel as thought I am too small of a player for Pinnacle.
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                                • fixxer
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-13-05
                                  • 1877

                                  #17
                                  I doesn't mind them as a bookie too...just I couldn't say that they are an A+ bookie....
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                                  • pags11
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 08-18-05
                                    • 12264

                                    #18
                                    no one is too small for pinnacle...
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                                    • Illusion
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 08-09-05
                                      • 25166

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by pags11
                                      no one is too small for pinnacle...
                                      Small players don't like the fees they charge to withdraw money pags.
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                                      • Dire-Wolf
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 11-18-05
                                        • 26

                                        #20
                                        I think it's bad advice when people tell small players Pinnacle may not be for them. The money you save on juice should easily be made up for the $15 withdrawals unless you're making $2 bets and are withdrawaling every few days.
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                                        • clonecat
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 08-29-05
                                          • 1225

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Dire-Wolf
                                          I think it's bad advice when people tell small players Pinnacle may not be for them. The money you save on juice should easily be made up for the $15 withdrawals unless you're making $2 bets and are withdrawaling every few days.
                                          Actually, know that I actually put some #'s together it does make a lot of sense, I think.

                                          Assuming I place 20 bets a week and my standard bet is to win $50 and I win 50% of my bets. I am paying $50 per week in juice at -1.10. If the juice was lowered to -1.06, I would pay $30 per week in juice or a savings of $20 per week. I probably won't place all 20 bets at Pinnacle, but even if it is half it is $10 per week. I don't withdraw money that often, max of once per month and that is highly unlikely.

                                          Looks like I will open a pinnacle account today.
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                                          • moses millsap
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 08-25-05
                                            • 8289

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Dire-Wolf
                                            I think it's bad advice when people tell small players Pinnacle may not be for them. The money you save on juice should easily be made up for the $15 withdrawals unless you're making $2 bets and are withdrawaling every few days.
                                            Exactly. Good post.
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                                            • moses millsap
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 08-25-05
                                              • 8289

                                              #23
                                              I think CRIS is the worst book for the small player. (1) They run that Office Space scam where they take all the loose change (most people should be betting amounts so there are no change amounts, but I'm sure most aren't), (2) The whole loyalty points thing really isn't worth much of anything, especially since CRIS doesn't give you credit when a bet pushes (If you bet a nickel, let's say, you won't get the 500 loyalty points, because their software automatically enters the points), (3) The fees are even higher than Pinnacle's and the payouts are several hours slower.

                                              I like both books very much, but I think the perception that Pinnacle is only geared toward the larger bettors is one that is incorrect.
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                                              • pags11
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 08-18-05
                                                • 12264

                                                #24
                                                Illusion,

                                                I understand what you are saying...$15 withdrawal fee via neteller if you have less than $500 in your account...
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                                                • Winston Smith
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 09-26-05
                                                  • 752

                                                  #25
                                                  I'd gladly pay $15 dollars to have the money in my possession in 10 minutes before paying nothing to have it there in 2 weeks, if at all.
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                                                  • picantel
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-17-05
                                                    • 4338

                                                    #26
                                                    this is bullshit. I just got 2 more deposit reminders in my email today and 3 more withdrawals out of my bank account yesterday. If you watch these forums wwts you better stop or I will put ALL deposits in dispute
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                                                    • Dire-Wolf
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 11-18-05
                                                      • 26

                                                      #27
                                                      The lack a response to this thread from certain people explains a lot.
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                                                      • edc0218
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 10-09-05
                                                        • 24

                                                        #28
                                                        WWTS owes me money for almost 3 months now.

                                                        You guys are lucky that your payout are only delayed. But, they still owe me about 4k. Alex the manager from Betholdem have a new scum. He will accused any player of collusion so he can steal the money without any evidence. I have been asking him for an evidence or hand histories for 3 months and he never provided. He just wants to keep my 4k. I've been positng here for the last 2 months to warn all poker players not to play at betholdem.
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                                                        • pags11
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 08-18-05
                                                          • 12264

                                                          #29
                                                          I've never heard a story about wwts delaying payment this long...what are the specifics of your story?...
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