Has an "A" Rated Book Ever Been Downgraded to "F"?

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  • ritehook
    SBR MVP
    • 08-12-06
    • 2244

    #1
    Has an "A" Rated Book Ever Been Downgraded to "F"?
    I've checked in to the SBR site now and then for years, to check the book rankings (but only posted a little more recently).

    The question I have is - has a book that carried an A rating ever been downgraded to an F? And ultimateley scrammed with depositor money?

    If so, was the downgrade sudden, or did it go in steps, like first to B, then C etc?

    I always thought SBR rendered a valuable service (which is why it is cited by posters on other sites). Of course, it's not exactly Consumer Reports for Bettors (as CR accepts no advertisiing at all; supported by foundation $, wills, and small donatiions) but it seems the best, all things considered.
  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #2
    I asked Bill Dozer this exact question when Raiders made a claim that Aces' Gold was A-rated here.

    No "A" rated book has gone under stiffing players. That doesn't mean it won't happen... But we spend a lot of time analyzing books. We have a lot of information the public doesn't. If we label it "A", it's because we believe it - not for advertising. For what it's worth, I'm keeping my money only at books on the recommended list until US legislation gets sorted out.
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    • bigboydan
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-10-05
      • 55420

      #3
      Cascade might be the first one to achieve that accomplishment. However, I believe Pan Am (B or B+) was the highest one that failed.
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      • Al Masters
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 04-29-06
        • 6940

        #4
        how bout hollywood?
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        • rjt721
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 02-06-07
          • 7929

          #5
          Originally posted by Justin7
          If we label it "A", it's because we believe it - not for advertising.
          Hasn't SBR admitted on several occasions that VIP's "A" rating was largely a result of advertising? There's really no other reason to justify VIP being an "A" rated book for so long and currently having an "A-" rating.
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          • tacomax
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-10-05
            • 9619

            #6
            Originally posted by rjt721
            Hasn't SBR admitted on several occasions that VIP's "A" rating was largely a result of advertising?
            I think it's a case that if people spout the same old crap time and time again then some people start to believe it.

            Originally posted by rjt721
            There's really no other reason to justify VIP being an "A" rated book for so long and currently having an "A-" rating.
            Don't you think it's odd that there seems to be a negative correlation between a higher rating and the number of complaints around the forums?
            Originally posted by pags11
            SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
            Originally posted by BuddyBear
            I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
            Originally posted by curious
            taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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            • rjt721
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 02-06-07
              • 7929

              #7
              Originally posted by tacomax
              I think it's a case that if people spout the same old crap time and time again then some people start to believe it.
              Could be.

              I may be mistaken, but I seem to recall one of the mods saying several months back that VIP's rating was in large part a result of advertising revenue.
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              • sean72
                SBR High Roller
                • 07-07-07
                • 109

                #8
                VIp are on very shakey ground and have been for a while I would not put my money in them even for a 200% bonus
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                • raiders72002
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-06-07
                  • 3368

                  #9
                  No "A" rated book has gone under stiffing players.
                  Bullshit. There was a time where letters weren't given and a top rated book went under. The corresponding letter would have been an "A". That + at least two B's tanked.
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                  • raiders72002
                    SBR MVP
                    • 03-06-07
                    • 3368

                    #10
                    History
                    2/15/2002 10:23 AM
                    AcesGold - A Sportbook Review Black List member since Feb 4th announces bankruptcy

                    1/22/2002 10:23 AM
                    AcesGold-Sportsmarket-Removed from Top 20 list. Some book to book transfer agreements have been rescinded.

                    1/15/2002 10:23 AM
                    AcesGold - Interview with AG CEO clarifies book transfer agreements - Noteworthy: AG's book transfer agreements are unchanged since agreement with Olympic was rescinded 09/01. AcesGold is reinstated on the top 20 list.
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                    • raiders72002
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-06-07
                      • 3368

                      #11
                      BlueMarlin
                      9/16/2003 03:36 PM
                      BetAustralia (SBR rating B+), Bluemarlin (SBR rating B) under consideration for the Recommend List
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                      • tacomax
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-10-05
                        • 9619

                        #12
                        How many books that raiders has shilled on the forums or promoted on his scam site have failed?
                        Originally posted by pags11
                        SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                        Originally posted by BuddyBear
                        I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                        Originally posted by curious
                        taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                        • patswin
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-05-06
                          • 1794

                          #13
                          Cascade would be my first choice also
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