Name your top 10 NFL Qbs of all-time

[GELATINOUS CUBE]

NO!!!

OK FINE.

PHIL RIVERS
DAN FOUTS
RYAN LEAF
DREW BREES
STAN HUMPHRIES
WARREN MOON
RANDALL CUNNINGHAMM
BRIAN GRIESE
SOMETHING FRIEZE
ARCHIE MANNING

[warriorfan707]

10. Brett Farve
9. Roger Staubach
8. Tom Brady
7. Johnny Unitas
6. Peyton Manning
5. Steve Young
4. Otto Graham
3. Bart Starr
2. Sammy Baugh
1. Joe Montana

Honorable mentions:

Dan Marino
Sonny Jurgensen
Terry Bradshaw

What could possibly possess anyone to put Sammy Baugh as the 2nd best QB of all time?

[THE PROFIT]

Ryan Leaf
Heath Shuler
Kyle Boller
Tim Couch
Joey Harrington
Danny O'Brien
Alex Smith

I'm sure there's some more future hall of famers I'm forgetting!!!!

[WhatAboutMeBitch]

these lists are ridiculous because most here have no sense of history. Baugh, Tarkenton, Graham. fukin Unitas? how can you not have Unitas on your list? guy was the babe ruth of qb's

[THE PROFIT]

Wheell has Unitas!

[warriorfan707]

Ryan Leaf
Heath Shuler
Kyle Boller
Tim Couch
Joey Harrington
Danny O'Brien
Alex Smith

I'm sure there's some more future hall of famers I'm forgetting!!!!

How could you leave out David Klingler

[warriorfan707]

My list is beast

I have it ranked how it should be

[THE PROFIT]

How large (top 100) of a list must some of you have to list a Black QB ?

Yeah , I saw Moon but

What's that mean?

Top 10 list of black QB's? Every black QB who played. Has there been 10? I sure don't think there's more than 1 or 2 that belong in the top 10 of qb's. Moon & McNabb are the best 2 there's been & I can't see them in top 10 best of all time.
Moon was really good but didn't leave that big of a legacy.

It's not a race thing it's a #'s thing! Like trying to put eminem in the top 10 greatest hip-hop artists of all time. He's good, but there's a whole bunch better!

[WhatAboutMeBitch]

no Rooney rule on this list. Fact is Black QB's haven't had the opportunity for many many years. Only recently have we seen Black qb's. Moon, Cunningham, Mcnair, those are really the only good good qb's from that come to my mind. But are they top 10? top 25? Moon I'd say is arguably in the top 10-15

[mebaran]

How can you say that? Manning will pass him in everything.

The only way I don't see it happening is if he gets traded, hurt, or leaves the game early. To me it seems like he might retire a little on the early side..it's a wise thing to do, and he is oh so wise.

[MC PICKS]

1. Joe Montana
2. Johnny Unitas
3. Peyton Manning
4. Brett Farve
5. Troy Aikman
6. John Elway
7. Dan Marino
8. Tom Brady
9. Steve Young
10. Phil Simms

[SBR_John]

Jim Kelly is not getting much love. Roger 'The Dodger' Staubach is number 2 imo. Steve Young was great and he is left off a few too.

[Flying Dutchman]

What about Otto Graham and Steve Young?
OTTO GRAHAM (Cleveland 1946-55)
Best NFL season (1953): 167 for 258 (64.7%), 2,722 yards, 10.6 YPA, 11 TD, 9 INT, 99.7 passer rating
Career (includes AAFC career): 1,464 for 2,626 (55.8%), 23,584 yards, 9.0 YPA, 174 TD, 135 INT, 86.6 passer rating
Championships: AAFC 1946-49; NFL 1950, 1954, 1955
Overview: Otto Graham was Tom Brady before Tom Brady, putting up gaudy numbers for his time while winning games and championships at an unprecedented rate. He led the Browns to a championship in all four years of the AAFC’s existence (1946-49). But he and the Browns proved they belonged in the big leagues by capturing the NFL title in their first year in the league.

In fact, they’d go on to set a record that still stands, appearing in six straight NFL championship games from 1950 to 1955, winning three of them. Bottom line: Graham played in a pro football championship game every single season of his 10-year career, winning seven of them in two different leagues.

He also set passing marks that stood for decades. His 86.6 passer rating, for example, is the top mark of the pre-Live Ball Era. And his career 9.0 YPA is No. 1 by a sizable margin.

So why, then, isn’t Graham higher on the list?

His four years in the AAFC make for some awkward comparisons. There’s every reason to believe the Browns would have been a dominant NFL team over those four years, but little reason to believe they would have won four straight championships. Graham’s numbers also declined pretty noticeably when he went to the NFL, from simply unbelievable to merely spectacular. His career 9.0 YPA average, for example, drops to 8.63 if we look only at his NFL numbers. Of course, that 8.63 YPA mark is the best in NFL history, too.

The full measure of Graham’s impact is this: the organization has never recovered from his departure at the end of the 1955 season. Sure, they remained competitive through the Jim Brown years (1957-65), winning a championship in 1964.

But that’s the only championship the organization won since Graham last took a snap for the Browns.

Grux knows football, it's meaningful stats, and history.

...rest of you guys are clowns.

[james4512]

if im not mistaken the question is who is the best quaterback, not who who quaterbacked the best teams, if so Marino is the best quaterback. Granted he never won a super bowl but there is no athlete in all the major sports who did more with the amount of talent. Lebron James is the only GREAT that comes close to doing more with less and hes 1 of of 5 players not one of 33. My list

1. Dan Marino
2. Peyton Manning
3. Joe Montana
4. Brett Farve
5. Johnny Unitas
6. Bart Starr
7. Otto Graham
8. Tom Brady
9. Steve Young
10. Kurt Warner

[Slate]

What determines a top QB????

Is it stats????

Is it wins????

Is it MVP wins????

Is it playoff and SB wins????

i think that this needs to be determined first

First here are NFL career passer ratings

Rank Quarterback Passer Rating 1 Steve Young 96.8 2 Philip Rivers 95.8 3 Tony Romo 95.6 4 Peyton Manning 95.2 5 Kurt Warner 93.7 6 Tom Brady 93.3 7 Joe Montana 92.3 8 Drew Brees 91.9 9 Ben Roethlisberger 91.7 10 Chad Pennington 90.1


and the rest are here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_career_quarterback_rating_leaders

[Slate]

Highest Completion Percentage, Career (1,500 attempts)
65.61 Chad Pennington, N.Y. Jets, 2000-07 (1,919-1,259)
65.09 Kurt Warner, St. Louis, 1998-2003; N.Y. Giants, 2004; Arizona, 2005-07 (2,959-1,926)
64.28 Steve Young, Tampa Bay, 1985-86; San Francisco, 1987-1999 (4,149-2,667)

Most Yards Gained, Career

1BRETT FAVRE................69,329
2Dan Marino...................61,361
3John Elway...................51,475
4PEYTON MANNING.........50,128
5Warren Moon................49,325

Most pass completions, Career

1BRETT FAVRE.................6,083
2Dan Marino....................4,967
3PEYTON MANNING..........4,232
4John Elway....................4,123
5Warren Moon.................3,988

Most Touchdown Passes, Career

1BRETT FAVRE...................497
2Dan Marino......................420
3PEYTON MANNING............366
4Fran Tarkenton................342
5John Elway......................300

[Junkyard Dog]

marino
montana
unitas
p manning
bradshaw
namath
elway
aikman

[tjlampe]

Tough question but would put Elway at top

[Wheell]

What could possibly possess anyone to put Sammy Baugh as the 2nd best QB of all time?

It was a generational thing. I knew I'd have one new school and one old school QB in my top 2. I had Montana as the best of the new school QB's, and was debating between Graham, Baugh, Unitas, and Starr as the best of the old school QB's. I ended up going with Baugh because his numbers were... Ruthian when compared to his peers. Honestly, a case can be made for any of the four I mentioned to be the best of their era.

[Namrut]

What about Dan Fouts??

[Namrut]

Jamarcus Russel

[AlphaOmega]

1. Ryan Leaf
2. Akili Smith
3. Heath Shuller
4. Tim Couch
5. Brady Quinn
6. Alex smith
7. Joey Harrington
8. David Carr
9. Jim Drunkenmiller
10. JaMarcus Russell

ALL TIME LOOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pride>UFC]

lol at people thinking Tom Brady's anything but a glorified cheater.

Tom Brady isn't in the top 5...u guys need to lay off the crack...

[Pride>UFC]

if im not mistaken the question is who is the best quaterback, not who who quaterbacked the best teams, if so Marino is the best quaterback. Granted he never won a super bowl but there is no athlete in all the major sports who did more with the amount of talent. Lebron James is the only GREAT that comes close to doing more with less and hes 1 of of 5 players not one of 33. My list 1. Dan Marino 2. Peyton Manning 3. Joe Montana 4. Brett Farve 5. Johnny Unitas 6. Bart Starr 7. Otto Graham 8. Tom Brady 9. Steve Young 10. Kurt Warner

This is a very respectable list for several reasons. The quarterbacks are true passers and winners, Marino definitely one of the most underrated qbs of all time. Steve Young should be a bit higher and I'd put Starr and Graham a bit lower because they didn't have to deal with defenses that are designed to stop the pass like today...

[DwightShrute]

1. Marino
2. Favre
3. Montana
4. Elway
5. Kelly
6. Bradshaw
7. Fouts
8. Manning
9. Moon
10. Tarkenton

[Slate]

Statistically..............Yards........ .....comp..........td

1. Brett Farve.........1....................1.... ............1
2. Marino................2................. ...2................2
3. Peyton...............4.................. ..3................3
4. Elway.................3................. ...4................5
5. Moon.................5.................. ..5................6
6. Tarkenton..........6.................... 8................4
7. Testaverde.........7.................... 7................8
8. Bledsoe..............8.................. ..6................13
9. Montana............10................... 9................9
10. Fouts..............9.................... .10..............12

[Slate]

Most wins

Brett.........181
Elway........148
Marino.......147
Peyton.......131
Tarkenton...124
Unitas.........118
Montana.....117
Bradshaw...107
Moon.........102
Kelly...........101

[THE PROFIT]

What determines a top QB????

Is it stats????

Is it wins????

Is it MVP wins????

Is it playoff and SB wins????

i think that this needs to be determined first

First here are NFL career passer ratings

Rank Quarterback Passer Rating 1 Steve Young 96.8 2 Philip Rivers 95.8 3 Tony Romo 95.6 4 Peyton Manning 95.2 5 Kurt Warner 93.7 6 Tom Brady 93.3 7 Joe Montana 92.3 8 Drew Brees 91.9 9 Ben Roethlisberger 91.7 10 Chad Pennington 90.1


and the rest are here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_car...rating_leaders

A few of these puts you in the top 10

[Slate]

Most Super bowl wins

Bradshaw.........4
Montana..........4
Aikman............3
Brady..............3

Most Super bowl MVP

Montana..........3

[WhatAboutMeBitch]

can't do it using only stats. the old time qb's are at a severe disadvantage there due to style and # of games in a season. back in the day Joe Namath become the first NFL qb to pass for over 4,000 yards in a season. No one duplicated until 10 years later. Today about a dozen guys have 4,000 yards passing this year

[WhatAboutMeBitch]

guys like Graham, Unitas, Baugh. Won multiple MVP/player of the year awards and were all-pro just about every year. that is how you have to measure between generations

[Slate]

What determines a top QB????

Is it stats????

Is it wins????

Is it MVP wins????

Is it playoff and SB wins????

i think that this needs to be determined first

First here are NFL career passer ratings

Rank Quarterback Passer Rating 1 Steve Young 96.8 2 Philip Rivers 95.8 3 Tony Romo 95.6 4 Peyton Manning 95.2 5 Kurt Warner 93.7 6 Tom Brady 93.3 7 Joe Montana 92.3 8 Drew Brees 91.9 9 Ben Roethlisberger 91.7 10 Chad Pennington 90.1


and the rest are here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_car...rating_leaders

For me taking in to consideration all the above catagories

Montana would have to be the best ever

4........... Super bowl wins
3 ...........Super bowl MVPs
92% .....Passer rating all time
7th .......most all time wins
Statistically top 10 in all catagories
713 winning percentage........117-47

This would be the QB I would want if I had a team, no one is better

[FishFace5]

Warner is not on the list. Top 20 sure, even borderline 15 but certainly not top 10.

I HAVE A NEW QUESTION....... Somebody explain how so many have Favre ranked ahead of Elway. Elway beat him in a superbowl as a double digit dog!!!! I'll give you Brett at 10 just because of his #'s but he's the most overrated player on anyone's list so far.

[Slate]

Warner is not on the list. Top 20 sure, even borderline 15 but certainly not top 10.

I HAVE A NEW QUESTION....... Somebody explain how so many have Favre ranked ahead of Elway. Elway beat him in a superbowl as a double digit dog!!!! I'll give you Brett at 10 just because of his #'s but he's the most overrated player on anyone's list so far.

Statistically Brett is the best No1. in yards, completions, Tds and wins

but Montana is the QB you would want if you had a team

[PAULYPOKER]

Slate



Holy shit Slate did you high-jack this thread for your personal files or what