Heritage Sports - can anyone shed light on this policy?

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  • Mudcat
    Restricted User
    • 07-21-05
    • 9287

    #1
    Heritage Sports - can anyone shed light on this policy?
    From their payout regulations:

    Heritage Sports pays for Neteller withdrawals, though we reserve the right to charge up to 5% in certain special situations.

    I asked them on the phone to explain this and all they would say was players deemed to be professional would be charged this rather hefty commission. They wouldn't define it beyond that. It seem like it is strictly their judgement call.

    I'm wondering if anyone has any recent personal experience with Neteller payouts from Heritage.
  • Clip Joint
    SBR High Roller
    • 08-10-05
    • 200

    #2
    That's crap...rules need to be clear and defined. That is not a fair rule simply because no one knows if they will be charged or not.
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    • DRUNK
      SBR Rookie
      • 08-11-05
      • 27

      #3
      That's a license too steal, and the reason i stopped playing with them.
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      • Bill Dozer
        www.twitter.com/BillDozer
        • 07-12-05
        • 10894

        #4
        Originally posted by Mudcat
        From their payout regulations:

        Heritage Sports pays for Neteller withdrawals, though we reserve the right to charge up to 5% in certain special situations.

        I asked them on the phone to explain this and all they would say was players deemed to be professional would be charged this rather hefty commission. They wouldn't define it beyond that. It seem like it is strictly their judgement call.

        I'm wondering if anyone has any recent personal experience with Neteller payouts from Heritage.
        We actually posted somewhat of a warning about that at the end of 2003. Heritage has told me that only one player has ever been charged that fee. If so, it is probably not cost effective to even mention it. I will speak to heritage about removing the 5% threat.
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #5
          This is the one thing that hurts Heritage as it shows a sign of cheapness

          Otherwise a good book
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          • HAPPY BOY
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-10-05
            • 7109

            #6
            Is Bill Dozer going to be running SBR radio adds this year during football season??? I heard them last year and they where great. Especially the one where not only did they give the name of several A-list books but also scam alerts. Thanks
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            • bookie
              SBR MVP
              • 08-10-05
              • 2112

              #7
              Heritage doesn't want to book talent and without coming out and saying that they put it in vieled ways so that the people they don't want know in advance they're not wanted.
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              • Mudcat
                Restricted User
                • 07-21-05
                • 9287

                #8
                Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                We actually posted somewhat of a warning about that at the end of 2003. Heritage has told me that only one player has ever been charged that fee.
                Hmmm. I have to say I'm skeptical of that. I was charged it before (about a year ago, I'd guess???). It's hard for me to believe I'm the only guy ever.

                I know I'm special but am I really that special????

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                • marc
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-15-05
                  • 1166

                  #9
                  I think the smart thing for new players to do is fund their account using **. Don't let heritage know you have a neteller account. That way they can't slap you with the 5% sharp tax.

                  For the life of me, I can't understand why they are suddenly advertising at MW again. They clearly don't want the average forum player. How many true sqaures do they think they will get from mw.
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                  • Mudcat
                    Restricted User
                    • 07-21-05
                    • 9287

                    #10
                    That's a couple of good points, marc.
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                    • why
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 08-10-05
                      • 447

                      #11
                      If there is one thing a solid book should have is clearly defined rules of play, no grey area BS.
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #12
                        I have Heritage at a C right now becaue of Neteller issues

                        No need to charge
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                        • fiveteamer
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 04-14-08
                          • 10805

                          #13
                          What happened to Clip Joint?

                          Have not seen this guy around lately...
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                          • Mudcat
                            Restricted User
                            • 07-21-05
                            • 9287

                            #14
                            Now there is a blast from the past. The carefree early days of the forum discussing the old Heritage sharp tax. It makes me weepy with nostalgia.

                            I don't know what happened to CJ. He was at this forum right at the start - I remember his (very successful) pre-season NFL system that he was tracking that first August - but he kind of faded away here. I think he was always more of an RXer anyway.
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                            • betplom
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 09-20-06
                              • 13444

                              #15
                              Heritage no longer offers Neteller, or any other e-wallet, its either M/G W/U or cheque.
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                              • magnavox
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 08-14-05
                                • 575

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Mudcat
                                I don't know what happened to CJ. He was at this forum right at the start - I remember his (very successful) pre-season NFL system that he was tracking that first August - but he kind of faded away here. I think he was always more of an RXer anyway.
                                Clip Joint was identified as Ryan Hill, a scam owner of DimePlayer.
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #17
                                  Heritage does not take new players anymore
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                                  • flyingillini
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 12-06-06
                                    • 41219

                                    #18
                                    I only play at Heritage and never had a payout issue. Top notch service in my opinion. I use to play other places but no need to anymore.
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                                    • betplom
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-20-06
                                      • 13444

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by flyingillini
                                      I only play at Heritage and never had a payout issue. Top notch service in my opinion. I use to play other places but no need to anymore.
                                      Tried to make my first withdrawal today for $1K, called in at 8:30 AM (Pacific) and they told me to call back after 4PM (Pacific) for the Moneygram payout info.

                                      When I called for the payout details I was told it wouldn't be available today (Tues) and to call back Wed.

                                      I think I'm done with Heritage, only because they don't offer Moneybookers.

                                      Now that NHL is getting close I've decided to use only these books for the season:

                                      Pinnacle
                                      Canbet
                                      Centrebet
                                      Matchbook
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                                      • flyingillini
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 12-06-06
                                        • 41219

                                        #20
                                        I have never had any kind of payout problems with them. I have no clue what happened, I just go by my personal experiences and they way I have been treated by them.
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                                        • betplom
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-20-06
                                          • 13444

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by flyingillini
                                          I have never had any kind of payout problems with them. I have no clue what happened, I just go by my personal experiences and they way I have been treated by them.
                                          Well, when I called first thing in the morning they said my payout was not guaranteed for today.

                                          This is an annoyance, I know I'll get paid tomorrow but considering it was my first request I wasn't impressed.

                                          I am somewhat spoiled by Pinnacle and their 15 minute Moneybooker payouts. Heritage cannot compete, nor can most other offshore books.

                                          Pinnacle truly is great.
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                                          • stump
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-14-05
                                            • 1718

                                            #22
                                            Never had any problems with Heritage. Always have received moneygram payout same day as long as called in early. also bank wire usually takes 2 days.

                                            consistantly one of my top 2 outs due to speed of payouts.
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                                            • Mudcat
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 07-21-05
                                              • 9287

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by magnavox
                                              Clip Joint was identified as Ryan Hill, a scam owner of DimePlayer.
                                              I'll be damned.
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                                              • kisado
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 09-09-08
                                                • 519

                                                #24
                                                What a shady rule. To me, that vague excuse of a rule is a statement that they will screw you over if you try to withdraw a considerable amount.
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                                                • Mudcat
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 07-21-05
                                                  • 9287

                                                  #25
                                                  Okay just to re-clarify. This topic was started in August 2005. It was a shady rule but to the best of my knowledge it is off the books.

                                                  Heritage remains an odd book in some ways though. For a long time they weren't open to the public; they only took players by invitation.

                                                  Anyone know if that is still the case?
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                                                  • flyingillini
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 12-06-06
                                                    • 41219

                                                    #26
                                                    I had a problem with them today and I am not happy. I was the one that always would advocate for them. I am now seeing what other posters have probably experienced with them.
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                                                    • betplom
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 09-20-06
                                                      • 13444

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Mudcat
                                                      Okay just to re-clarify. This topic was started in August 2005. It was a shady rule but to the best of my knowledge it is off the books.

                                                      Heritage remains an odd book in some ways though. For a long time they weren't open to the public; they only took players by invitation.

                                                      Anyone know if that is still the case?
                                                      You need a referral to open an account, they do not accept new signups without one.

                                                      Originally posted by flyingillini
                                                      I had a problem with them today and I am not happy. I was the one that always would advocate for them. I am now seeing what other posters have probably experienced with them.
                                                      They paid me the other day, but it was not smooth, nor fast.
                                                      I'd like them more if they offered moneybookers.
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                                                      • flyingillini
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 12-06-06
                                                        • 41219

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by betplom
                                                        You need a referral to open an account, they do not accept new signups without one.



                                                        They paid me the other day, but it was not smooth, nor fast.
                                                        I'd like them more if they offered moneybookers.
                                                        Being paid has always been smooth. Some of their customer service people have attitude problems and other issues.
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                                                        • Scorpion
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 09-04-05
                                                          • 7797

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Mudcat
                                                          From their payout regulations:

                                                          Heritage Sports pays for Neteller withdrawals, though we reserve the right to charge up to 5% in certain special situations.

                                                          .
                                                          I heard this book loves to steal from winners
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