Who decides............

[wal66]

what material is Private Zone worthy and what material is traffic generating worthy?

I only ask because yesterday I had a thread temporarlily placed in the Private Zone which wasn't offensive nor did it attack another. It was replaced back in Players Talk after I questioned it being diverted. No explination as to why a mod decided to move it or replace it.

So I'm down in the basement and I see another thread that was placed in the Private Zone. The thread wasn't a personal attack as so much as it was some smack talking. Also turns out someone had stiffed another third party poster as well.

My point is or question rather, who decides these things? Obviously it is the mods but what guidelines do they have to follow? Or are there specific guidelines at all. Do the mods each have their own set of standards? Do they get to adjust those standards based on individual posters? If you're friendly with one mod and he lets it slide but have had altercations with another mod and he doesn't give you any wiggle room?

Just curious, thanks in advance for any immediate replies.

[G's pks]

Wal did you not basically post this same thread yesterday?

[Deuce]

[pavyracer]

The little red triangle under the post # is the main culprit. Unless someone uses it the post will not go to PZ. All jjgold and posse threads are off course exempt from this rule.

[jgray]

Pavy, you think whether a thread is moved is primarily determined by whether a poster is offended? That seems like a terrible standard. I'd hope there is some review by a mod and equally hope there is at least a general standard.

[DrStale]

Depends on whether any mod feels the need to assert himself based on an inadequacy in his life.

[G's pks]

[pavyracer]

Pavy, you think whether a thread is moved is primarily determined by whether a poster is offended? That seems like a terrible standard. I'd hope there is some review by a mod and equally hope there is at least a general standard.

Not necessarily. What I'm saying is if a post is reported it has a bigger chance of being moved to PZ if deemed by the mod it's inappropriate. Mods do no read all posts or all threads unless the owner is attacked or offended.

[wal66]

G's it was basically the same post but today there is a different thread moved that doesn't qualify under personal attack or even being offensive. It could have been moved for not having a value until one other poster entered the thread and stated that he as an recognized asset to SBR had been stiffed by someone in the original thread. At that point the thread does take on some sort of relivance.

[G's pks]

G's it was basically the same post but today there is a different thread moved that doesn't qualify under personal attack or even being offensive. It could have been moved for not having a value until one other poster entered the thread and stated that he as an recognized asset to SBR had been stiffed by someone in the original thread. At that point the thread does take on some sort of relivance.

Wal you have to be nice like me to survive this jungle...

[Lost Angel]

yesterday I had a thread...which wasn't offensive nor did it attack another.

Seems a waste.

[Al Masters]

WALLSTER,,SBR must know that you associate with known hooligans, they probably got you on a watch list, so now all your posts will be yanked or moved regardless have how clean they are.

You may want to PM SBRjohn to get the full list of the known SBR Hooligans.

My sources tell me that John is in contact with PIERO,and a full list will be made available shortly.

In the meantime, stay away from known Hooligans,if you want to post here as you did in the past.
Associating yourself with known hooligans will surely lead to the problems your now experincing and as time goes by will only get worse.

Do not worry, there are others out there who may find themselves in bigger Doo-Doo, while your just known as a hooligan sympathizer, others like Peep are known to harbor these hooligans and may find themselves paying a heavy penalty for doing so.

Rumor has it Peep didnt get a wink of sleep last night, when he heard his name/site being mentioned as as a safe house for these known Hooligans.

You see Peeps place has always been a nice little cozy place to post, where they try and stay out of the way of controversy and hate issues, posters with checkered pasts are usually not welcomed kindly,until they reach the point of being able to post without cussing and knocking other posters,if Peep didnt have it this way,he wouldn't of been able to get high profile posters like BODOG BECKY in his stable of posters.

Even one of Peeps old time friends and mod at his place named homedawg is trying his best to out the these newly arrived Hooligans, so as you can see poor Peep has preasure coming from all directions

So one can see why Peep may of not been able to sleep properly last night,full well knowing he's on SBRs radar as a harborer of hooligan type posters.

Peep, i like you, i don't want to see anything bad happen to you,today while your at work, pay close attention to any group of 2 or more wanting to bowl,but not willing to pay for bowling shoes,good chance these are SBR henchmen looking to use bowling balls, but not for bowling.

[pavyracer]

Al Masters..If you ever see a real hooligan you will poop in your pants. You are firing blanks.

[wal66]

I kind of like being on a watch list.

You got me pegged though. I am a sympathizer. I liked the group that left. I don't dislike John either though. I think everything that went down here was shameful by BOTH sides. It's my personal feelings on the whole issue and I have stated as much to the guys that left. Not that my opinion matters but I speak what is truth to me regardless if anyones else agrees with it.

That issue aside though I still asked a legitimate question about thread placement and or removal from main forums to the Private Zone. Do the mods have specific guidelines in which to follow or is it left to the individuals discretion?

[BEANTOWNJIM]

HEY WAL YOUR ABOUT ONE POST AWAY FROM JOINING YOUR BUDDY BREAD AT THE GRAVEYARD BETTER KNOWN AS PEEPS PLACE.SMARTEN UP KID BEFORE YOU END UP IN THE LAND OF UNWANTED POSTERS

YOU COME UP WITH THESE F-CKING CARTOON VIDEOS AND YOU THINK YOUR A HOLLYWOOD PRODUCER WAL YOU CAN BE REPLACED SO STOP FIGHTING WITH MANAGEMENT AND JUST SHUT UP GOT IT WEIRDO

[pavyracer]

HEY WAL YOUR ABOUT ONE POST AWAY FROM JOINING YOUR BUDDY BREAD AT THE GRAVEYARD BETTER KNOWN AS PEEPS PLACE.SMARTEN UP KID BEFORE YOU END UP IN THE LAND OF UNWANTED POSTERS

YOU COME UP WITH THESE F-CKING CARTOON VIDEOS AND YOU THINK YOUR A HOLLYWOOD PRODUCER WAL YOU CAN BE REPLACED SO STOP FIGHTING WITH MANAGEMENT AND JUST SHUT UP GOT IT WEIRDO

BTJ go back to obscurity. You quit being funny in 1959.

[SBR_John]

I kind of like being on a watch list.

You got me pegged though. I am a sympathizer. I liked the group that left. I don't dislike John either though. I think everything that went down here was shameful by BOTH sides. It's my personal feelings on the whole issue and I have stated as much to the guys that left. Not that my opinion matters but I speak what is truth to me regardless if anyones else agrees with it.

That issue aside though I still asked a legitimate question about thread placement and or removal from main forums to the Private Zone. Do the mods have specific guidelines in which to follow or is it left to the individuals discretion?

Its subjective. Guys wanting to make trouble will be sent down there along with the usual porn, racial, SBR sux,ect. Actually we don't mind trouble makers or hooligans. But they need to keep their trouble in the right forum. Of course they are attention deficit posting disorder ADPD so they want the SBR John is a cunt type threads up here. Thats when someone ends up with a vacation. Btw they will all be back after their ADPD induced timeout.

[wal66]

Beantown, you as usual are missing the point. I am not fighting WITH anyone. Is it pushing the envelope, maybe? Is it rebellious, some might say yes but not the intentions. The majority of us follow set guidelines. When cross a boundary which any of us are capable of doing and ask a question regarding it how is that wrong? Especially if those boundaries aren't writen in stone but are subjective in nature due to personal taste.

I'm not a rebel, nor am I a sheep either. I am my own man. I can agree with some of what John thinks as much as agree with some of what friends that left think but that also doesn't mean I totally agree with either. Choices were made and things are what they are. However what I am asking in this thread pertains to none of that. Only reason I am asking is because some of the guys that used to ask these questions are no longer here or others are affraid they will be next.

[BEANTOWNJIM]

HEY SBR JOHN KEEP AN EYE ON THIS GUY WAL HE THINKS HE IS CUTE BASTARD PLAYING BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE.HIS VIDEOS SUCK THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE GOOD IF THE VOICES CHANGED THERE TONE A LITTLE BUT THEY ARE ALWAYS THE SAME.

HEY SBR JOHN I HAVE BEEN TAKING YOUR SIDE A LITTLE TO MUCH LATELY I DONT WANT THE BOYS TO THINK I AM ON MANAGEMENTS SIDE I AM A 25 YEAR UNION MAN AND I DONT PLAN ON CHANGING

[wal66]

Its subjective. Guys wanting to make trouble will be sent down there along with the usual porn, racial, SBR sux,ect. Actually we don't mind trouble makers or hooligans. But they need to keep their trouble in the right forum. Of course they are attention deficit posting disorder ADPD so they want the SBR John is a cunt type threads up here. Thats when someone ends up with a vacation. Btw they will all be back after their ADPD induced timeout.

John the thread I am refering too, did you read it? If you did, then what am I missing? I agree it started off as some typical smack which is very much the norm and while may or may not be entertaining certainly wasn't a personal attack. Also in that same thread there was as I said mention of yet another stiffing which does benefit other posters who may also fall victim to being stiffed. At that point the thread contained valuable information to others. Yet the thread was tucked away in Private Zone.

[wal66]

HEY SBR JOHN KEEP AN EYE ON THIS GUY WAL HE THINKS HE IS CUTE BASTARD PLAYING BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE.HIS VIDEOS SUCK THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE GOOD IF THE VOICES CHANGED THERE TONE A LITTLE BUT THEY ARE ALWAYS THE SAME.

HEY SBR JOHN I HAVE BEEN TAKING YOUR SIDE A LITTLE TO MUCH LATELY I DONT WANT THE BOYS TO THINK I AM ON MANAGEMENTS SIDE I AM A 25 YEAR UNION MAN AND I DONT PLAN ON CHANGING

Beantown, if it was meant as an insult, "playing both sides of the fence", it wasn't recieved as such. I see both sides of what happened. Agree some with both and disagree some with both. It's called being rational and broadminded. However if you call it playing both sides so be it.

[Al Masters]

Wall would be a good player on the tv show Big Brother, he plays both sides VERY WELL.

I dont know mucH of this poster,but i will say that he did pass someone 1000points for flowers to send to a fake sick person, based on that alone, hes probably a respectable guy who just misses his friends.

then the next question, why does he not just go to there new place to post and leave SBR, INSTEAD OF REHASHING THE STORY DAY AFTER DAY.

[wal66]

Simple, actually. I like SBR. I chose this as my home. I didn't even know the other place existed till someone here mention former posters were there. I visit, I post but this is home. You ever go over to see friends where you live? Nice enough place where they live but not quite home? I will give the Peep guy credit though, he appears to be a cool character.

Until someone tells me officially that my asking a question that is properly worded and respectfully presented that what I am doing is wrong I won't stop. Why would I? How else would we know what or why what we are doing is wrong if we don't ask to find out? It's not like I'm slinging poo through the cell bars at the guards?

[Al Masters]

Simple, actually. I like SBR. I chose this as my home. I didn't even know the other place existed till someone here mention former posters were there. I visit, I post but this is home. You ever go over to see friends where you live? Nice enough place where they live but not quite home? I will give the Peep guy credit though, he appears to be a cool character.

Until someone tells me officially that my asking a question that is properly worded and respectfully presented that what I am doing is wrong I won't stop. Why would I? How else would we know what or why what we are doing is wrong if we don't ask to find out? It's not like I'm slinging poo through the cell bars at the guards?

FAIR ENOUGH!

Peep is a cool guy who is articulate and intelligent, (WE AGRRE NOT THAT IT MATTERS)

BACK TO YOUR HOME AWAY FROM HOME STORIES.

If you went to visit your friends in real life who just moved, how long after they moved would it take for your wife to tell you... there gone go visit as much as you like but stop bitchingg about it everyday?

John owns this site, john said yes to faggots and no to ******s, bread was mad and left, weather i agree with john or not is my own opinion, weather i stay or go is my choice, Bread MADE HIS CHOICE, and the flock followed, John got called every name in the book, obviously those that joined in the revolt and called him a cunt now have to deal with how John reacts to them, his reaction to all those will obviously be more heavy handed and he is the boss here, so its his way or move along.

Bread was tuning this place into his own personal romper room, turning educated posters into monkeys, when i 1st got here poster Mudcat was very helpful to me and i learned quickly he was a guy to pay attention to, i remember him telling me when Netteller WENT DOWN, he was thinking of moving to England,now he ends up moving to another forum because one of the forum entertainers left.

if your happy here stay if not leave, but enough with how JOHN railroaded Bread and all his friends.

[pavyracer]

Al Masters..You are drinking too much scotch. Why are you obsessed with a poster who left and doesn't post here? This is the internet and not real life!

[wal66]

Al, Ilike it. You are passionate about your cause.

I do need a couple things explained to me though. At which point have I attepted to railroad John? I have not. I did make a failed attempt at making light of the situation with a video and while I did know what I was doing could be taken differently I was seriously trying to make light of an ugly event. If my questioning how certain threads are moved and others aren't is wrong then I guess I might eventually have to be banned as well. While I am owed nothing from SBR or John or any of the mods or even any of the posters, I won't shy away from something I don't understand either. I have no problem with new rules, or rules I don't agree with. It's not my forum and I either abide by the rules or I don't. However if something looks screwy or arbitrary I will ask about it. If that becomes a problem I am certain someone that matters will ask me to stop or leave.

As for choosing one or the other I have made my choice. I have chosen to post where I choose to post. If this becomes a problem then once again someone that matters can ask me to leave. As for Bread and his band of brothers being he reason for idiot post here I respectfully and totally disagree. While there was certainly a clique and while at times they did dominate the threads they were not the only posters here that post silly, contrite, non-topic, ridiculous threads. Did they always have relevant material? Absolutely not but where does it state that no off topic threads can not be here. Where does it state that every member must appreciate, understand or approve of the threads?

Guy, I don't know what your agenda is or what your other poster nic ic but if you think you can get under my skin and push a button that will cause me to implode you have the wrong guy. i can counter any argument you present.

Baaaring it!

[paco]

[pavyracer]

Wal,

Ignore the ignoramuses here. They will suck an old man's cock for a penny and salt juice.