Idiot bets 10k on a 3-1 to show in 11k pool in 9 horse race

[topgame85]

What a clown last race at Australia tonight a guy bet 10k on the 13 horse a 7/2 shot to show, somebody had been doin likewise at northfield on favorites all night to..... of course the 13 horse did not even show, there is only 11k in the total show pool waiting on payouts now the three horses that showed should be paying 10-1 or better if my math is not off

[1st and Ten]

[Vesuvius]

[topgame85]

Jesus the 12-1 that won paid 27.20/6.10/66.50!
the second place horse (my bet) paid 3.30/19.40
The third place horse 17-1 paid $131.60 to show hahhahahahahahah

12-1 to win pays 32-1 to show!
3-1 to win pays 8-1 to show!
17-1 to win pays 60-1 to show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Come back whenever you want guy

[topgame85]

of course this could have just as easily fcked the show pool because if 13 did show we would all have gotten 2.10 to show but dam

[pico]

degen

[topgame85]

You can bet 10k to show on a horse at tracks like santa anita and aqueduct and shit but not bet 10k into a 11k pool, does the guy not realize he is puttin almost 2 dimes into takeout alone?

[HAPPY BOY]

man thats worst than Pico's ML play on USC at -1200 and losing.....

[Dr.Gonzo]

You can bet 10k to show on a horse at tracks like santa anita and aqueduct and shit but not bet 10k into a 11k pool, does the guy not realize he is puttin almost 2 dimes into takeout alone?

Has it occurred to you yet that this was probably a deliberate move to manipulate the pools?

Sounds similar to when Curly Seal got owned by Hayson.

Smells like the sharpest of play to me.

[smitch124]

What kind of limits do you normally run into when betting to show in a non-parimutual book?

That would seem a far better route for this type of play.

[topgame85]

Has it occurred to you yet that this was probably a deliberate move to manipulate the pools?

Sounds similar to when Curly Seal got owned by Hayson.

Smells like the sharpest of play to me.

For many reasons I do not believe this was pool manipulation..... 1. why bet a horse that is a top performer and has a very good shot to show if you are trying to boost show prices? as stated above this very easily could have resulted in $2.10 payouts on all shows for each horse, you would want to bet the worst horse in the race not one of the top projected finishers....... 2. As mentioned there are not many bookmakers who use north american tote odds in non pari-mutual action that would be paying out a high enough cap on a show bet at Australia to make it worthwhile..... 3. he would not need to bet anywhere near 10k to manipulate the pool 2-5k, would have done just fine, the whole pool only had about $1000 in it before this guy unloaded..... 4. someone was dumping 10k loads on dead chalks to show at northfield all night as well probably same guy......... My guess is this guy figured he could pick up several $500 returns by throwing 10k around on show horses to get some free cash which he did succesfully before bombing out on the 9th at Australia

[SamsNCharge99]

[Boner_18]

"Show Jumping" is what Davidowitz calls it and yeah like you said it opens up good opportunities in the rest of the pool.

[topgame85]

just wish I knew the guy so I could find out the reasoning, maybe he was trying to manipulate although I just can't see the logic on that amount/horse combo or where he could placed his true wager and get the huge return at......... maybe he was just trying to stack few hundred but if you have 10k what is the need to risk 10k repeatedly to try to get a few $500 scores extra throughout the night on shows at northfield and autralia races, if you lose 1 you are way down like it turned out? Maybe it was some celeb or someone out of the know at the track who has know idea the way pari betting works? I know back in my early das I had very very little understanding of the way it worked and often bet $100 to win on a horse at a small shit harnass track and singlehandedly dropped a 5-1 to like 5/2 or something but you would think if your dropping 10k on something you would have a slight understanding

[jjgold]

Who knows what was going on, so many places to bet Australian racing now that something might of been up.

[topgame85]

Most offshore books that take horse racing clearly state any pool manipulation will result in no action...... and I am sure every offshore would be canceling bets on this race...... only way this makes sense is if the guy has a dumbass local who takes a a few thousand limit in show bets and pays out full track odds at Australia which I find unlikely, anyone who knows anything about horse racing which a bookmaker willing to take that type of action should, would no action these bets only leaving us lucky ducks with money on a different horse in the pari pool to benefit

[Richkas]

I've seen this many times. They are called bridge jumpers.

[topgame85]

morning uncle richie I think there is a body laying beneath a bridge somewhere in the world this morning if that is the case

[Richkas]

morning uncle richie I think there is a body laying beneath a bridge somewhere in the world this morning if that is the case

LOL. I hear ya. But usually the guys that do this are super wealthy. The ones I see usually bet $100,000 to show to make 5k. Last year in the Arkansas Derby somebody put $100k on the fav. I forget his name. Dominguez rode him and Dutrow trained him. He ran 2nd.

[korbal29]

[tonyhomo]

some people have too much money

[topgame85]

LOL. I hear ya. But usually the guys that do this are super wealthy. The ones I see usually bet $100,000 to show to make 5k. Last year in the Arkansas Derby somebody put $100k on the fav. I forget his name. Dominguez rode him and Dutrow trained him. He ran 2nd.

I don't care how rich I was I could not lay that type of cash would rather of donated it to some cause or something. I wonder if the guy even got the dopamine rush or not when he won, I know I would OD from the adrenaline on a 2 minute 100k bet.

[SamsNCharge99]

when I first started to gamble on horses, I used to bet $5 to show on a horse and that would be it. I would win and horse would pay $2.60 and I'm up $1.50 and times were good.

Now, my min bet on a horse in $10 WPS.....damn, what happened to the good ole days

[Rio DiNero]

Some do it for casino comps, as you will be well taken care of firing 10,0000 shells on the ponies. Most times they look for heavy chalks, this guy may have been doing it all night and got a little over confident and took a shot. I don't think it was manipulation, because I don't know any off-shore outfit that will take heavy action at Australia. One tip, if you ever see this it is worth betting a few horses to show in the race, as you will get massive returns if the horse that was fired upon runs out of the money.