Is the SBR points book an illegal sportsbook?

stevek173 · 01-11-10, 10:28 AM

onthewhat · 01-11-10, 10:28 AM

Swinging Johnson · 01-11-10, 10:31 AM

The key point here is that SBR is not taking any cash from it's members. You could consider what SBR is doing as a promotional expense. Similar to a game show. People win money and that's not illegal. I see no illegality here whatsoever. Defense rests.

JohnAnthony · 01-11-10, 10:32 AM

Yep, coupons.

Deuce · 01-11-10, 10:32 AM

Technically it is because it is "Gambling". Points act as "CASH" tender when receiving "GIFTS".

mmike032 · 01-11-10, 10:37 AM

I'd guess the SBR legal team went over this before opening the sportsbook and covered their ass

koby25 · 01-11-10, 10:37 AM

TheLock · 01-11-10, 10:38 AM

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Swinging Johnson · 01-11-10, 10:43 AM

Deuce, the key here is that nobody is putting up their own money. It eminates from SBR. Take the game show Jeopardy. Those contestants gamble every time they answer a question. There is no money being asked of the members and the points are a reward incentive. This is a promotion. If no money is being asked of the members, then no violation of any federal law has occurred. Defense rests, again. I would like to point out to the court that the defendants are being badgered.

Bill Dozer · 01-11-10, 10:44 AM

It's not gambling when there isn't risk. ESPN and .net poker sites offer for-fun fantasy and pickems with prizes as well. On a side note, Picks and Points happens to be based in CR.

nomamesguey · 01-11-10, 10:51 AM

we are all paid posters and gambling with our salary

Boner_18 · 01-11-10, 10:51 AM

I doubt it... Of course if you ask the TX AG he might have a different answer...

dwaechte · 01-11-10, 10:54 AM

Huh? Did someone hack durito's account? This thread was made months ago. Bitter much, durito?

durito · 01-11-10, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by dwaechte

Huh? Did someone hack durito's account? This thread was made months ago. Bitter much, durito?

Sorry I didn't see it.

Just a question.

Jaug · 01-11-10, 10:56 AM

You never know in land of the free it seems.

Boner_18 · 01-11-10, 10:58 AM

It's an interesting question... At first glance I thought "no way." But I am interested in looking at the case law (could be both a federal and state question). I'm sure SBR had an attorney look at it but these things are rarely so open and shut... That's why attorneys have jobs.

Richkas · 01-11-10, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by dwaechte

Huh? Did someone hack durito's account? This thread was made months ago. Bitter much, durito?

No he just pissed at John.

Justin7 · 01-11-10, 11:08 AM

SBR points is a genius concept. Legally, it isn't gambling since players do not pay SBR for points.

MBENZ · 01-11-10, 11:09 AM

They are not taking cash bets or are they paying out cash bets,if you redeem them for cash plays at the books,it's the books giving you the cash plays,not SBR.Case dismissed.

dwaechte · 01-11-10, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by Richkas

No he just pissed at John.

Exactly. Interesting to see him let it take hold of him like this though.

1st and Ten · 01-11-10, 11:28 AM

"If it's free....it's me"

durito · 01-11-10, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by dwaechte

Exactly. Interesting to see him let it take hold of him like this though.

It's hardly taken a hold of me.

pavyracer · 01-11-10, 11:53 AM

It's like rewards points for gasoline card. You get the option to get a gift card or cash back. Once the gas company gives you cash back if you decide to gamble with it the gas company is not liable for your gambling activities even though they sell the lottery tickets at the gas station.

dwaechte · 01-11-10, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by durito

It's hardly taken a hold of me.

Fair enough. Just noticed a bunch of snippy comments, and starting a thread like this is hardly characteristic of you.

wtf · 01-11-10, 11:59 AM