Need opinions on theses books

**BAUS** · 12-02-05, 02:44 PM

Never heard of any of them.

BAUS

**Bill Dozer** · 12-02-05, 03:01 PM

Hmmm, well, I was going to guess they were all Euro bookies who accept US players but I'm pretty sure Astrabet does not accept US gamers and Primebet is in German.

**pjesnik24** · 12-02-05, 05:15 PM

Premierbet is a good bookie if you want to be sure about your money. But their odds suck. Does not matter if you bet on soccer or NBA odds are still 10 % worse than on Pinnacle or Pointbet (even SBR does not like Pointbet because of their location, but I never had any problems with them. They even have better odds on NBA and NHL games than Pinnacle most of the time) so there is really no reason to join Premierbet.

**pags11** · 12-03-05, 02:48 AM

I haven't heard of any of these books...I'd stay away...

**Illusion** · 12-03-05, 02:49 AM

Originally posted by pags11

I haven't heard of any of these books...I'd stay away...

Since marc is a mod here pags I'm sure he will.

**JoshW** · 12-03-05, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by Illusion

Since marc is a mod here pags I'm sure he will.

You would be surprised at some of our standards Illusion, or maybe not. LOL

I agree, stick to the strong books, but I occassionally "slum". As pjesnik24 says, I like PointBet too. Maybe risky to play with but they are a huge market maker for soccer and they do US sports too at reduced juice. They might not have the billionaire backer Mansion has, but they at least have a sustainable business model as best I can tell and they pay.

**why** · 12-03-05, 12:28 PM

My guess is that those books don't advertise or demographically select the states to market in, so I know those books; NOT.

**BadAzz** · 12-03-05, 01:21 PM

Only one I have experience of is Mcbet. They have huge offer of different sports and leagues. They also have pretty much highest juice around and credit or bank wire only for deposits and withdrawals. They have some very "opinionated" lines or maybe they are just clueless. I can never bet high amounts because the site always says "I have exceeded my weekly limit", which is not true. The limit is not weekly but per bet.
Withdrawals take about a week through bank wire, but they have always paid. Bonuses are nonexistent.

All in all, crappy bookie, but I have a little amount of money there because of the "jewels" you can sometimes find.

AK · 12-03-05, 01:46 PM

All in all, crappy bookie, but I have a little amount of money there because of the "jewels" you can sometimes find.

Thank You For Reply

**pjesnik24** · 12-03-05, 04:31 PM

Pointbet is really good. I never had any problems with them. And they have, quite often, better odds than Pinnacle for NBA, NHL and soccer.

**marc** · 12-11-05, 03:01 PM

Thanks for all the feedback

**Bill Dozer** · 12-11-05, 03:39 PM

Where did you find these guys?

**paul022112** · 12-12-05, 08:48 AM

www.Ciaobet.com "this one sucks"

**paul022112** · 12-12-05, 08:49 AM

dont know about the rest

**paul022112** · 12-12-05, 08:50 AM

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**noyb** · 12-12-05, 09:10 AM

i agree with earlier comments about some of the bookies. i also use astrabet and betandgame, which were not mentioned yet (betandgame is an exchange by the way), both with small stakes only. both pay (at least they did me), but are both so small in terms of volume it's hard to predict how long they are gonna last (no idea about backing, their overhead and things like that).

**Max Levine** · 12-12-05, 10:02 AM

About Pointbet...

I checked out Pointbet website a while ago after some guys were recommending them for soccer odds. I would have played with them if not for SBR rating. The thing is, if SBR knows for a fact that this company is actually operating from a country where the government has closed other shops, it would be irresponsible of them to recommend this book.

If I were to lose money in a sportsbook because of their sudden disappearance, despite its A or B ratings, I would start questioning SBR research and ratings efficiency.

Max