The failure of Matchbook or the Players ?

[Trident]

1)

I would still expect, at some point, exchange betting to take off amongst US players, but am of the growing opinion that it won´t be with Matchbook. Maybe it will take a more aggressive and dynamic newcomer to enter in order for that to happen.

You are 100% correct.

If legal sports betting ever comes to the US Betfair has put itself in a very good position with the acquisition of TVG since they will have a head start over any competitors since they will already have been investigated and licensed in a state.

[Chuck Sims]

A lot of squares or just ignorant posts. $30,000 offers on the live betting during NFL night games. Not enough for you? Last MNF sombody was offering more than $20,000 on the Vikings +310 m/l on the 4th & goal play late in 4th qtr.

NFL moneylines cannot be beat anywhere.

97% of all sports bettors are longterm losers. The other 3% are playing at Matchbook(among other books).

MB will catch on. It has to. How long can dummies post here bragging they got the Saints -350 moneyline, when its -295 at Matchbook? The new generation of savy bettors will see the light.

[byronbb]

30k that sits there isn't proof of liquidity.

[Sawyer]

Every poster here should have money at Matchbook.

Agreed.

In addition; When it comes to US Spots, Matchbook is much better than betfair. Betfair's Us sports liquidty is even lower than MB.

Liquidty is really poor in some markets like NCAAB but liquidty in baseball market last season was not bad. I hope MB gets bigger and bigger.

[Nicky Santoro]

"you gotta be on your toes at matchy at all times.."

does not help...
your offer will get taken before u can even react if pinn moves the line

when i say you gotta be on your toes, i mean that you have to be smart and use your head. there was an NFL game last week that the total was painted 42.5 -110 everywhere, and pinny had 42.5 -105/-105..

matchy had ov 42.5 +109 and it had like 31,353 available to bet, no joke.. i put in a small bet on the over just for fun and pinny still had 42.5 -105 each way. i am thinking, wow... i go take a leak, i come back... and it's now ov 42.5 +118 and then went to ov 42 +106 eventually.. and then pinny went to 42 a few seconds later. line kept going down at matchy for quite some time.. this don't happen all the time, but it does alot..

all i'm saying is matchy has pros.. those lines are there for a reason.. if you see 46,000 available at a great price, watch it. it's not being offered by some dumb square looking for action..lol.

matchy's motto should be.. matchbook, it's where the big boys play. and that's for sure.. the big sharp boys play there. be very careful

if you're a square, it might hurt you more than help you by playing there..

[Art Vandeleigh]

I wrote this awhile back, I still think it's true. U.S. players especially the young guys, have a "beat the bookie" mindset. They want to beat the man. How many threads in player's talk are about penis-slapping the bookie, crush the bookie, bury the bookie, etc. They want to beat the "bad man". The U.S. players are the good guys, bookie is evil.

Playing exchanges is too elegant for them, too sissified. They want to flex, destroy that badass bookie. We are more bad-ass than the bad-assessed bookie out there.

I think the rest of the world is more concerned with making money and only making money. As such I am not convinced exchanges will ever catch on with a lot of U.S. players.

[durito]

how exactly is it that you make money at matchbook nicky?

[Nicky Santoro]

how exactly is it that you make money at matchbook nicky?

none of your beezwax...

[sinkhole]

A lot of squares or just ignorant posts. $30,000 offers on the live betting during NFL night games. Not enough for you? Last MNF sombody was offering more than $20,000 on the Vikings +310 m/l on the 4th & goal play late in 4th qtr.

NFL moneylines cannot be beat anywhere.

97% of all sports bettors are longterm losers. The other 3% are playing at Matchbook(among other books).

MB will catch on. It has to. How long can dummies post here bragging they got the Saints -350 moneyline, when its -295 at Matchbook? The new generation of savy bettors will see the light.

ye and it probably was 30 000 beacuse it was a bad line...
u never get good odds on matchbook live

[bettilimbroke999]

A lot of squares or just ignorant posts. $30,000 offers on the live betting during NFL night games. Not enough for you? Last MNF sombody was offering more than $20,000 on the Vikings +310 m/l on the 4th & goal play late in 4th qtr.

NFL moneylines cannot be beat anywhere.

97% of all sports bettors are longterm losers. The other 3% are playing at Matchbook(among other books).

MB will catch on. It has to. How long can dummies post here bragging they got the Saints -350 moneyline, when its -295 at Matchbook? The new generation of savy bettors will see the light.

Who cares, so they take a timeout and they have one play where a high roller is offer 3/1 on a 4th and goal at the 10, prolly a 5/1 or worse ML big deal, live betting at matchbook is dead, anyone who played there last year so real live betting, this year is fukin comical, sometimes on Sunday or Monday night football there is a little live betting generally small offers until the very end of the game when there is no edge I mean 3/1 ML when its 4th and goal on the 10 and that just ties the game then they still have to win in OT, fuk I'll give ya that all day long myself, the rest of the time its nonexistent

Matchbook the way it was last year would've caught on, whatever matchy did since then has caused it to drop off the map, early betting lines are gone, live betting is gone, no totals for 1st halves etc and 1st half spreads are 10 cent lines or worse, matchbook is currently in the comode, the only thing they offer now are good gameday game lines and to most bettors thats no enough, ppl like first halves, parlays, sharp bettors like to bet early on not just put offers out that dont get matched unless they move against them and scalpers dont like scalping when theres 1% on the bet rather than 2% on the net profits, liquidity has plummetted

[Chuck Sims]

$150,000 liquidity just prior to the BGSU/Idaho game. In-game bettting-$19,400 offered on the Under 69 1/2(-194) late 2nd qtr.

Reference the Vikes 4th down play--You would of taken that all day? Really!! Offers of Bears -298 to -335 was being offered on the 4th & goal play. You missed out. WSEX was -300. Those $ amounts ranged from $200-$3,350.

From what I read, MB have new people at the helm. The former MB guys were seeding the market and got roasted. MB still is seeding the market but apparently not like it was before. The in-game is better than last year.

[Chuck Sims]

I wrote this awhile back, I still think it's true. U.S. players especially the young guys, have a "beat the bookie" mindset. They want to beat the man. How many threads in player's talk are about penis-slapping the bookie, crush the bookie, bury the bookie, etc. They want to beat the "bad man". The U.S. players are the good guys, bookie is evil.

Playing exchanges is too elegant for them, too sissified. They want to flex, destroy that badass bookie. We are more bad-ass than the bad-assessed bookie out there.

I think the rest of the world is more concerned with making money and only making money. As such I am not convinced exchanges will ever catch on with a lot of U.S. players.

Anything that is new takes awhile. Exchanges are the wave of the future. If anybody bets an NFL moneyline other than Matchbook, you're a fool. If you bet MLB other than Matchbook, you're a bigger fool.

[Utah]

Anything that is new takes awhile. Exchanges are the wave of the future. If anybody bets an NFL moneyline other than Matchbook, you're a fool. If you bet MLB other than Matchbook, you're a bigger fool.

If you are at one book and bet decent amounts they may be a good choice (otherwise I would rate SIA the best choice). But, there are constantly MLs at other books that are better than MB, depending on which side you prefer to bet on. Just because they have a small spread doesn't mean that the bets are good. The line could be dead on. It is like Pinny on a lot of bets. They are -104 but it is nearly impossible to beat because their lines are accurate. However, you can play a book like The Greek or WSEX that are -110 and constantly find winning plays.

[bettilimbroke999]

$150,000 liquidity just prior to the BGSU/Idaho game. In-game bettting-$19,400 offered on the Under 69 1/2(-194) late 2nd qtr.

Reference the Vikes 4th down play--You would of taken that all day? Really!! Offers of Bears -298 to -335 was being offered on the 4th & goal play. You missed out. WSEX was -300. Those $ amounts ranged from $200-$3,350.

From what I read, MB have new people at the helm. The former MB guys were seeding the market and got roasted. MB still is seeding the market but apparently not like it was before. The in-game is better than last year.

So they were seeding the market with good lines and getting roasted last year, but its better this year with no liquidity, I see

[clonecat]

The main problem with matchbook is that it is harder to move around money, thus losers like me don't play there we play at recreational books like Betjam etc.. If another neteller would arise it would be much better for matchbook.

[Jaug]

I rate matchbook as the top book I have, and I have many. The reason is simple, best odds there in general.