QUESTION-POINTS FOR ANSWERS(good ones!)

yisman · 12-28-09, 03:48 AM

freeplay.

if you get a $50 freeplay and it has 4x rollover, you have to make $200 worth of bets before cashing anything out.

Also, the reason some are cheaper and some have different requirements is basic marketing.

One book (I think it's Loose Lines) simply priced all their fps cheaper than the others, because they want new signups/people playing there.

It's like a sale in a regular store. If I offer my stuff cheaper than the competition, I'll get more buyers.

Loose Lines does not get customers as easily as some of the better books because they aren't as good. Personally, I'd rather play at BetPhoenix, BetJamaica, or 5 Dimes.

yisman · 12-28-09, 03:51 AM

as for cash, it's simple.

That is straight cash into your account. No rollover requirements. Because of that, it costs more.

Books would rather you have a freeplay, because there's a good chance you'll lose it trying to meet the rollover.

THE PROFIT · 12-28-09, 03:56 AM

actually you have to rollover the cash too I think, but you get to keep a larger portion of the rollover or something

THE PROFIT · 12-28-09, 04:33 AM

If you can answer these, especially about the rollover & stuff, I'll send pts ur way. Don't get pissed if you don't get them right away, going to bed & check later. Thanks

Ace_of_Spades · 12-28-09, 06:37 AM

Cash is better imo.

fixxer · 12-28-09, 10:23 AM

There is an obvious big difference between free play and cash bonus.

If you receive free play, you only receive the winnings from the first bet, original stake not included.
If you buy cash bonus, you get your original stake back too if you win.

If you bet 100 free play to win 400 with a free play, your balance will be 400-100=300 if you win (stake deducted).

If you bet 100 free play to win 400 with a cash bonus, your balance will be 400.

Betphoenix is the cheapest from the free plays, because their rollover is on the winnings made from the free play, which makes it less worthy.
At Sportbet, you have to make the rollover on the bonus, not the winnings!

If you bet 100 free play to win 400 at Betphoenix, the rollover will be:
(400-100)x8= 2400 total money needs to be wagered.

At Sportbet if you bet 100 free play to win 400, the rollover will be:
7x50 (the bonus received) = 350

the difference is huge....

If you check the free plays:
Cheapest: Betphoenix - has the biggest rollover (8x), and the rollover is on the winnings made from the free play!

Sportbet: 7x rollover on the bonus (7x50=350 from a 50$ free play)

Betjamaica: 6x rollover on the bonus (6x50=300 from a 50$ free play)

There is another rule, which makes a big difference between cash bonus and cash bonus.
This is the "risk or wager - lower counts in the rollover" rule.....

At Betphoenix if you wager 200 to win 100, 100 will count only in the rollover (the possible winning 100 is less than the 200 which you risk, so this counts in the rollover only)
At most of the more expensive cash bonuses (Bodog, TheGreek) there is no such rule. If you stake 200 to win 100, 200 will count in the rollover.

My advice is, if you want to buy a cash bonus or a free play, check through the bonus rules:
- what is the rollover requirement?
- is the rollover on the winnings from the free play (BP), or on the bonus received (other two)?
- is there a "risk or win lower counts in the rollover" rule?
- if not, is there any minimum odds which counts in the rollover? Some bookies make some limits, what counts in it, and what doesn't. Is there any restricted sport from the rollover? (many has...)

THE PROFIT · 12-28-09, 03:20 PM

Not gettin' great info here guys! Does the rollover amount count on TOTAL wagered, W&L? 10 points to someone who can answer all these questions thoroughly but not like a damn linear calculus professor

yisman · 12-28-09, 03:23 PM

total amount wagered.

risking 200 would be 4x rollover on 50.

they sometimes have restrictions on what lines you can play to roll it over, though

you have to check the freeplay restrictions at the different books

UntilTheNDofTimE · 12-28-09, 03:32 PM

Profit the difference is in what the book wants to offer.

for instance as far as cash bonuses and differences go

Betphoenix is 425 points for a $50 cash bonus( with a 8 x rollover)
so 50 x 8 = $400 wagered before you can withdrawal

for 175 more points you can get $50 cash at the better book like BetJam 5dimes and bookmaker
These are $50 with only a 4x rollover
50 x 4= $200 in total wagers before you can withdrawal

The difference between freeplays and cash is in the initial wager and thats it.

if you take a freeplay with $250 and you place a bet at +100 odds(250/250)
If your wager wins you now how $250 cash with a 8 x rollover( 250 x 8). The initial bet amount disappears since it was only a freeplay. The initial freeplay bet does not count towards the rollover requirement. The initial bet is just to determine what youll have left( in your case 250 cause of you +100 odds bet) for your rollover requirement.

for the rollover requirement its all amounts wagered. Thats wins and losses

any and all differences between the prices have to do with the rollover requirements for the bonus. The cheaper ones require 8x, the more expensive ones require 4x. If you need anything else dont hesitate.

THE PROFIT · 12-28-09, 05:49 PM

With a 50 dollar play you can play $25 plays until you build up cant you?

UntilTheNDofTimE · 12-28-09, 05:53 PM

You can bet 5 if u want, any amount u wish

THE PROFIT · 12-29-09, 12:21 AM

Thanks man!