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  • smitch124
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-19-08
    • 12566

    #36
    I believe this challenge arose from MF's calculations of Rebate Wagers' value at -110 with a rebate vs. Matchbook and MF's assumption of a 50% win rate.

    So I'm pretty sure they are doing a straight percentage of wins at RB's -110 lines.
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    • Chi_archie
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-22-08
      • 63172

      #37
      will this start today?
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      • Nicky Santoro
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 04-08-08
        • 16103

        #38
        Originally posted by smitch124
        I believe this challenge arose from MF's calculations of Rebate Wagers' value at -110 with a rebate vs. Matchbook and MF's assumption of a 50% win rate.

        So I'm pretty sure they are doing a straight percentage of wins at RB's -110 lines.
        yeah but at least include the -110.. why eliminate that. that is the difference between winning this contest and losing. if they include the -110, then RW has a shot, a very small shot still, but a shot.. if not, forget about it.. no chance.

        it's not realistic if he goes 50.2% and wins. in reality, if he goes 50.2%, he would be broke.. why give him the win

        RW, you MUST at least go by units won. it's bad enough he will be playing every single edge vs you, and laying no vig. how do you expect him to lose??

        spreads ONLY and go by units won.. or kiss you 1k goodbye.
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        • Richkas
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-03-08
          • 19396

          #39
          Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
          I know I can be a dick, get up 2 games, and play both sides on the rest of my games. But I'm not gonna.

          LOL, I never thought of that. Good thinking
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          • smitch124
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 05-19-08
            • 12566

            #40
            But Nicky the original argument was whether the average poster hits 50% at -110, RW's claim was that they don't...
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #41
              Monkey is going to feel the pressure daily and choke
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              • Nicky Santoro
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 04-08-08
                • 16103

                #42
                The thing that RW don't know is that every gambler that ever lived has hit exactly 50% in their career no matter how good or shit they were at this. that's not why gamblers are broke. it's because of something we call, VIG.. that 10% is the reason. it adds up.. and over a lifetime, the avg gambler will be broke from it.

                now toss in here that he will be betting every -130 and up on every spread.. for example, N.E. -2.5-140, he now has them at N.E. -2.5 even LOL.. and toss in the 1 pt edges when he compares them to pinny and all the 5 ov -145's in NHL that he now has 5 ov even.. LOL. .and he should easily hit 55%, easily too.

                only way to do this is be realistic and go by units won or lost and include the -110..

                at 50.2% over 1k a game, a gambler would be down close to 5k over every 100 bets.. but he would win the contest..lol
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #43
                  I do not like these -140's and stuff though

                  I thought it was -110 lines only to prove a point many do not hit 50% based off -110 lines
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                  • flyingillini
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 12-06-06
                    • 41219

                    #44
                    Now the fun begins.. I don't think it was ever clarified. Let the rule changing begin! Ha Ha
                    המוסד‎
                    המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                    • Nicky Santoro
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 04-08-08
                      • 16103

                      #45
                      hey monkey, i will give you right now 600$ to let me take your place.


                      600$ in your hands guaranteed and you walk away. right now.. give me your matchy acct #.. it'll be there in 5 minutes
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                      • MonkeyF0cker
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 06-12-07
                        • 12144

                        #46
                        Originally posted by smitch124
                        I believe this challenge arose from MF's calculations of Rebate Wagers' value at -110 with a rebate vs. Matchbook and MF's assumption of a 50% win rate.

                        So I'm pretty sure they are doing a straight percentage of wins at RB's -110 lines.
                        If betting straight -110's without an edge results in a 50% win rate, then betting -110's with an edge (over +100) and anything with a no-vig line of -101 or greater, resulting in a win percentage higher than 50% would also prove my point that the markets are efficient and that betting with no edge leads to a 50% long term win rate. Market efficiency is what we're testing.
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